Melbourne vs Essendon Postponed

[DemonOX 8,541]

56 minutes ago, sue said:

I note in that AGE article it states:
The league also reiterated to clubs that games would likely go ahead even if clubs lost several players, effectively placing the onus on clubs to keep their players COVID-free by following protocols.

Following this policy, it seems to me that since Essendon effectively lost 22 players on Sunday, the game should have gone ahead, so we should have played and boosted our percentage nicely.

I wonder if we would have kicked enough goals to win the game!

[Satan 2,745]

Playing wce rnd 1 saved us another trip to wa? Unless we get sent over to play freo and a vic club?

[Redleg 37,694]

30 minutes ago, Satan said:

Playing wce rnd 1 saved us another trip to wa? Unless we get sent over to play freo and a vic club?

The payoff could be several clubs being sent to WA hubs and we are not included.

IMO to be fair, the Bomber players not allowed to play against Carlton, should also be excluded from our postponed game against the Bombers, with the AFL then ensuring a fair break between games and the same break for us and our opponents in the game following the postponed Bombers game.

Hard to then argue we are being dealt with unfairly.

[dice 566]

4 hours ago, TheKozzieExperience said:

 So we are playing the depleted Essendon team next round then, surely.  

 Pert? Bartlett?  Mahoney?  Goodwin?   Where are you?

GIVE US THE FOUR POINTS FFS!!!!

This is farcical:
https://www.afl.com.au/news/455889/-the-rules-are-pretty-clear-dons-could-play-with-bare-minimum

[Docs Demons 1,660]

1 hour ago, old dee said:

So would I but we both know that won’t happen it is as sure as the sun rising tomorrow.

Old Dee not sure where you live but when I lived in Melb there were plenty of days when the sun didn't rise or to the point it hid behind the clouds!!.

[ding 5,126]

48 minutes ago, Satan said:

Playing wce rnd 1 saved us another trip to wa? Unless we get sent over to play freo and a vic club?

AFL might well see that as their chance to slip in the missed game against Essendon if we are sent back over to WA along with EFC. Would mean we get to come back one week earlier than the others as we wouldnt have to play WCE.

So many different permutations to work through though.... no idea how that might work.

Absolute cluster-[censored] of a season. Should have been put out of its misery already.

Edited June 22, 2020 by ding

[sue 8,448]

20 minutes ago, Redleg said:

The payoff could be several clubs being sent to WA hubs and we are not included.

IMO to be fair, the Bomber players not allowed to play against Carlton, should also be excluded from our postponed game against the Bombers, with the AFL then ensuring a fair break between games and the same break for us and our opponents in the game following the postponed Bombers game.

Hard to then argue we are being dealt with unfairly.

Some porcine aviators out your way Redleg?

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,462]

28 minutes ago, Redleg said:

The payoff could be several clubs being sent to WA hubs and we are not included.

IMO to be fair, the Bomber players not allowed to play against Carlton, should also be excluded from our postponed game against the Bombers, with the AFL then ensuring a fair break between games and the same break for us and our opponents in the game following the postponed Bombers game.

Hard to then argue we are being dealt with unfairly.

Of course, knowing our luck, the repalcements Essendon might be forced to use might turn into superstars once they get into the side so we end up facing a stronger rather than weaker team. 

By the way, I don't agree with your premise. It's a difficult enough year as it is. Let's just let the best players play, whoever they play for. I don't know how I'd feel about beating a sub-standard team if they had better players available, anyway. How would that really benefit us? So we get four points but get away with sub-standard football in doing so? 

Or worse. We lose and become the competition's embarrasment. Again.

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[old dee 22,927]

22 minutes ago, Docs Demons said:

Old Dee not sure where you live but when I lived in Melb there were plenty of days when the sun didn't rise or to the point it hid behind the clouds!!.

But it still rose behind the clouds or not.

[Pates 9,537]

I understand the decision to postpone the game but my question is why couldn’t they pencil the postponement to Monday to establish how many players were in close contact with McKenna? If the AFL rules are clear that they can play if they have a list to choose from and they established those players by now then we could’ve played a Monday night game instead. 

Would’ve sucked for Essendon but now two other teams benefit and we get royally shafted. To me it seems like the panicked and shut it down before considering other plans. 

Edited June 22, 2020 by Pates

[Mazer Rackham 14,969]

57 minutes ago, Redleg said:

IMO to be fair, the Bomber players not allowed to play against Carlton, should also be excluded from our postponed game against the Bombers, with the AFL then ensuring a fair break between games and the same break for us and our opponents in the game following the postponed Bombers game.

 

I'm old enough to remember the drug scandal of '12 when the Bummers were allowed access to players from here there and everywhere to top up their playing stocks when they "should have" had to suck up the consequences of their unconscionable misdeeds.

I'm even old enough to remember the "lights out" game, EFC v StKFC, cut short by 30 or so minutes when the lights went out just before 3/4 time. At the urging of EFC, the clubs got to pick entirely new teams for the resumption, to play out the remaining minutes. (In 2 halves!)

 

There is no chance the AFL will enact any "should be" or "should have" that goes against the wishes of the EFC.

Edited June 22, 2020 by Mazer Rackham

[Mazer Rackham 14,969]

Why don't the AFL just get it over with and award EFC the 4 points?

[TRIGON 4,719]

3 hours ago, buck_nekkid said:

A contrary view:  We put on a brave face (knowing that we will get ZERO from the AFL).  We use it to show what we are made of, that we can handle what comes our way, and show the team that we are not sooks like the WEAGLES.  The season is screwed like a pig in an Arkansas barn, so why damage our internal build for the sake of this? The AFL will always prioritise the big clubs, so we get scraps.  If we had a great hit out on Sunday, and the guys are all ‘in it together’ we can do more good for our culture for the long term than getting a hollow benefit from GIll and the braincell-allergic dunderheads at AFL house.  Pick your battles.  Choose the sexiest pig.

That's reminded me of an old joke...is your real-life name Luigi?

[dazzledavey36 48,870]

A 4th black lives rally member who was part of the Melbourne protest has tested to covid virus.

Becoming a [censored] debacle now.

Edited June 22, 2020 by dazzledavey36

[old dee 22,927]

29 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

 

I'm old enough to remember the drug scandal of '12 when the Bummers were allowed access to players from here there and everywhere to top up their playing stocks when they "should have" had to suck up the consequences of their unconscionable misdeeds.

I'm even old enough to remember the "lights out" game, EFC v StKFC, cut short by 30 or so minutes when the lights went out just before 3/4 time. At the urging of EFC, the clubs got to pick entirely new teams for the resumption, to play out the remaining minutes. (In 2 halves!)

 

There is no chance the AFL will enact any "should be" or "should have" that goes against the wishes of the EFC.

Sadly correct RM.

[MyFavouriteMartian 572]

2 hours ago, Spirit of the Demon said:

There have been enough mistakes on the part of Essendon, their player and the AFL to entitle us to the 4 points. If it happened to Collingwood, Eddie would already have a foot in the door of the Supreme Court over this.

AT the very least 2 points now, and see the rest later...  depending on what transpires.

The Essendon players put out by the virus, for next week,  should not be allowed to play against us in any makeup game, later in the season..

[MyFavouriteMartian 572]

Why not play tag footy.  Take 2 players Off the bench.   Make teams of 20.   Opening up space,  causing players to sprint harder to tag.     If tagged holding the ball,  its a turnover.

2 more players in reserve,  for any who can't get up if sick.

[Lord Nev 13,511]

13 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

A 4th black lives rally member who was part of the Melbourne protest has tested to covid virus.

Becoming a [censored] debacle now.

You realize that person caught it at a shopping centre and not the rally yeah?

(In fact, you also realize none of those cases so far were people who caught it at the rally?)

 

Edited June 22, 2020 by Lord Nev

[MyFavouriteMartian 572]

2 hours ago, sue said:

I wonder how much worse  a tackle is for virus transfer compared to handling an 'infected' ball.    19 touches worse than 2 tackles?

spittle in the eye.

[Demonland 65,487]

 

[godees 651]

5 hours ago, binman said:

On that point there is growing body of evidence that it does not transmit easily outdoors. The BLM marches here in the USA have seen very little transmission so far, though masks apparently might play a big role in this. It has been two weeks since ours and there have been no clusters. In both examples it is possible there still might be an uptick in cases but thus far outdoors look pretty safe.

Almost everyone at the Melbourne BLM prostest was wearing masks. Meanwhile McKenna was expelling his secretions everywhere in that training vision (onto his hands that were tackling others and handling the ball).

Covid is everywhere in the US and cases are increasing (despite far far lower levels of testing) so I don’t know how that claim that there has been very little transmission from the matches could possibly be made.

The evidence around spread of the virus is poor. Governments are manipulating evidence to suit their agendas, for example regarding the spread in children (Ie that it spreads less) which is based on extremely poor evidence.

It is a ridiculously sneaky virus and i would not be at all surprised if another dons player tests positive in the next fortnight.

[Chook 14,570]

35 minutes ago, MyFavouriteMartian said:

Why not play tag footy.  Take 2 players Off the bench.   Make teams of 20.   Opening up space,  causing players to sprint harder to tag.     If tagged holding the ball,  its a turnover.

2 more players in reserve,  for any who can't get up if sick.

Why not just play chess. Take 21 players off the bench.  Make teams of 1.  Opening up space, causing players to think harder to check.   If checked without a move, it's a game loss.

21 players in reserve, for any who can't get up if sick.

[dazzledavey36 48,870]

44 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

You realize that person caught it at a shopping centre and not the rally yeah?

(In fact, you also realize none of those cases so far were people who caught it at the rally?)

 

Yes you're right.

The initial headline sucked me in straight away. Went back to read the actual article and it had nothing to do with the actual heading.

[dworship 3,342]

6 hours ago, My name is legion said:

Nobody is ‘born’ in Toorak. There are no hospitals in Toorak. The people who live there would hardly have their babies at home!

It appears you are incorrect. And no, I wasn't born at home.

 

[Lord Nev 13,511]

7 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Yes you're right.

The initial headline sucked me in straight away. Went back to read the actual article and it had nothing to do with the actual heading.

Standard media practice these days it seems.