Training Ground?

[old dee 22,928]

54 minutes ago, Supreme_Demon said:

I think the most important factor is to continue the pressure on the Melbourne Football Club Board.

Email (or possibly call?) Board Members. Same with the Melbourne Football Club CEO Gary Pert (who I actually think is doing an excellent job overall and I appreciate he is an extremely busy man).

Nevertheless, we need to keep asking the same questions. What is happening with our Home Base? Where will it be built? When will it be built? How long will it take for it to be built? How much will it cost? All fair and reasonable questions.

Basically, we simply keep pestering them on a regular basis (not too much of course!). But enough to make sure they are all held accountable.

We want all the objectives in our Strategic Plan achieved and that, in particular, includes our Home Base.

In theory that is a good idea SD but they will hide behind confidentiality. We cannot discuss. Truth nothing is happening. No space is available in central melb. End of story. 

[old dee 22,928]

18 hours ago, Demon Dynasty said:

A bit too far OD surely?

I live on the east side and it's 45 minutes minimum from here.

Imagine anyone like admin, FD staff, players etc living Nth, West or Bayside (many AFL players live in these leafy salubrious burbs).

Must be taking them 1 hour plus to get over there.

Wouldn't be all that appealing to prospective players we might be trying to lure across either imho.

The problem DD is that there is no alternative. Throw up Caulfield racecourse that will keep them happy for a couple of years. Am I a cynic YES.

Edited July 12, 2023 by old dee

[old dee 22,928]

On 7/11/2023 at 8:56 AM, george_on_the_outer said:

No the current Board have said those monies will not be used for that (I don't know why) 

Why would the Board be loathe to tell the members what is happening?. 

After all they been promising this since they were put in place, and the Board before them, and the one before them.....I have lost track of the number of times at AGM's, player sponsor events and member meetings where this has been sprouted. ....but we can't tell you anything because it is "in confidence"....or "we will have something positive by the end of this year"......then next year " we should have something to announce by season end".....

It was meant to be in construction according to the Strategic plan by the end of this year.

I don't think we are any closer than we have ever been George.   silence tells us there is nothing happening

 

[Demon Dynasty 15,570]

16 minutes ago, old dee said:

The problem DD is that there is no alternative. Throw up Caulfield racecourse that will keep them happy for a couple of years. Am I a cynic YES.

I am probably no less cynical OD.

So with the Caulfield development, it was my understanding that the timeline for any possible approach by us to be included in discussions and possible involvement has long passed yes?

[Demons1858 1,662]

3 hours ago, Supreme_Demon said:

I think the most important factor is to continue the pressure on the Melbourne Football Club Board.

Email (or possibly call?) Board Members. Same with the Melbourne Football Club CEO Gary Pert (who I actually think is doing an excellent job overall and I appreciate he is an extremely busy man).

Nevertheless, we need to keep asking the same questions. What is happening with our Home Base? Where will it be built? When will it be built? How long will it take for it to be built? How much will it cost? All fair and reasonable questions.

Basically, we simply keep pestering them on a regular basis (not too much of course!). But enough to make sure they are all held accountable.

We want all the objectives in our Strategic Plan achieved and that, in particular, includes our Home Base.

And what if that doesn't work? We could launch a protest at the head office, only problem is we don't really have one.

Edited July 12, 2023 by Demons1858

[chookrat 3,776]

17 hours ago, Supreme_Demon said:

I think the most important factor is to continue the pressure on the Melbourne Football Club Board.

Email (or possibly call?) Board Members. Same with the Melbourne Football Club CEO Gary Pert (who I actually think is doing an excellent job overall and I appreciate he is an extremely busy man).

Nevertheless, we need to keep asking the same questions. What is happening with our Home Base? Where will it be built? When will it be built? How long will it take for it to be built? How much will it cost? All fair and reasonable questions.

Basically, we simply keep pestering them on a regular basis (not too much of course!). But enough to make sure they are all held accountable.

We want all the objectives in our Strategic Plan achieved and that, in particular, includes our Home Base.

While maintaining pressure on the Board and CEO lets them know this is important to us supporters I think putting pressure on State MP's (provided 10's thousands of members do so) is a good way to let our elected officials know this could cost votes in the next election. The challenge would be to have sufficient numbers in a number of electorates that could swing results to an extent the MP's of all parties would support.

[Nascent 7,332]

Big Pie out of Dockers clash, livewire misses training - https://www.afl.com.au/news/976892

 

"Cameron failed a fitness test at Gosch's Paddock on Thursday morning after.."

Weren't we kicked off Gosch's because of the woman's world cup? Wtf are Collingwood allowed to train there?

[george_on_the_outer 6,992]

6 minutes ago, Nascent said:

Big Pie out of Dockers clash, livewire misses training - https://www.afl.com.au/news/976892

 

"Cameron failed a fitness test at Gosch's Paddock on Thursday morning after.."

Weren't we kicked off Gosch's because of the woman's world cup? Wtf are Collingwood allowed to train there?

We were kicked out of AAMI park for the World cup.  Gosch's still available. Pies still have access to all their facilities, but their oval is probably being used for FIFA.

Edited July 13, 2023 by george_on_the_outer

[Nascent 7,332]

1 minute ago, george_on_the_outer said:

We were kicked out of AAMI park for the World cup.  Gosch's still available. Pies still have access to all their facilities, but their oval is probably being used for FIFA.

Makes sense now, ignore me and carry on everyone.

[kev martin 9,215]

44 minutes ago, Nascent said:

Cameron failed a fitness test at Gosch's Paddock on Thursday morning after.."

Weren't we kicked off Gosch's because of the woman's world cup? Wtf are Collingwood allowed to train there?

I understand the Wobbles wanted to rest their ground after some storm damage to it.

No world cup teams are using AAMI as a training base, and so won’t use the Glass house oval.

I expect the world squads to use the AAMI rectangle so they acclimatise themselves to the ground, the day before their game (six games scheduled). The games are at various times, including midweek. They needed our rooms I guess, so off to Casey.

I looked at this website to see the schedule and training bases for women's world cup teams.

https://keepup.com.au/news/fifa-womens-world-cup-venues-dates-schedule/

So looks like we got kicked out of the area, and the Wobbles took advantage. 

Edited July 13, 2023 by kev martin

[Diamond_Jim 11,832]

9 minutes ago, kev martin said:

https://keepup.com.au/news/fifa-womens-world-cup-venues-dates-schedule/

Thanks Kev

a great info source

Looks like only Canada at Olympic Park. Morocco at Werribee and Jamaica at the State soccer centre in Northcote.

I assume Olympic Park and the rectangular stadium are different venues

PS can you imagine playing soccer in Dunedin in July

It makes Hobart look tropical !!!

Edited July 13, 2023 by Diamond_Jim

[kev martin 9,215]

2 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

I assume Olympic Park and the rectangular stadium are different venues

Olympic Park Heidelberg. 

"Canada, however, will train out of NPL giants Heidelberg United’s home ground – Olympic Village – in Melbourne"

Edited July 13, 2023 by kev martin

[old dee 22,928]

21 hours ago, Demon Dynasty said:

I am probably no less cynical OD.

So with the Caulfield development, it was my understanding that the timeline for any possible approach by us to be included in discussions and possible involvement has long passed yes?

Honestly no idea.

[Gorgoroth 12,331]

Caulfield it seems, I can’t read due to paywall.

 

 

[kev martin 9,215]

Error, wrong date. 

Edited July 13, 2023 by kev martin

[dice 566]

2 minutes ago, kev martin said:

Maybe this is the same article.

https://www.zerohanger.com/demons-reportedly-hoping-to-build-new-caulfield-racecourse-training-base-132701/

Feb 2023 article

[daisycutter 28,598]

2 minutes ago, kev martin said:

Maybe this is the same article.

https://www.zerohanger.com/demons-reportedly-hoping-to-build-new-caulfield-racecourse-training-base-132701/

they are 5 months apart

i hope the july one (hun) is up to date

[dice 566]

16 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

Caulfield it seems, I can’t read due to paywall.

 

Nothing to read. No substance as usual

 

[kev martin 9,215]

Perhaps this:

Melbourne makes progress on plans for new home base at Caulfield Racecourse

Melbourne will move its football program to Casey Fields to make room for teams competing in the FIFA Women’s World Cup. And the Dees have their eyes on a long-term fix.

Melbourne has pressed ahead with plans to build a new training and administrative base at Caulfield Racecourse in a bid to finally bring the club under one roof.

The Demons have hit major hurdles across multiple sites over the past five years but have made progress in their attempts to be part of a massive redevelopment at Caulfield.

Pasted from https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/melbourne-makes-progress-on-plans-for-new-home-base-at-caulfield-racecourse/news-story/14645c5cd37830a2aaf164902458cd35

Also has firewall, after a bit of a spiel.

[Older demon 2,166]

For what it is worth I had a chat with a recent powerbroker at MFC who when asked about a home base, just said keep your eyes on Caulfield racecourse. I was surprised but further discussion was about the height of any structure in the middle and not obstructing the view so clearly some work has been done and will unite the whole club AFL & AFLW.

The mayor of Glen Eira council has been all in for years about the centre of C Caulfield racecourse becoming a sports precinct. He may well get his wish with state govt backing.

Watch this space but keep your eyes on Caulfield

[Wells 11 4,788]

32 minutes ago, Older demon said:

For what it is worth I had a chat with a recent powerbroker at MFC who when asked about a home base, just said keep your eyes on Caulfield racecourse. I was surprised but further discussion was about the height of any structure in the middle and not obstructing the view so clearly some work has been done and will unite the whole club AFL & AFLW.

The mayor of Glen Eira council has been all in for years about the centre of C Caulfield racecourse becoming a sports precinct. He may well get his wish with state govt backing.

Watch this space but keep your eyes on Caulfield

It’s worth a lot OD! I’d love to see this happen… almost as much as I wanted a flag.  

[Supreme_Demon 3,011]

While I understand many of us wanted a Home Base in the MCG precinct it seems that unfortunately it wasn't possible. Too many obstacles and problems. All the stakeholders, the NIMBYs in East Melbourne etc just made it too difficult in the shadow of the MCG. A shame.......but it is what it is.

While disappointed, I am happy to see a Home Base developed at the Caulfield Racecourse. Something which I think former late Demons champion player and President Stuart Spencer promised over 30 years ago. Better late than never!

Anyway, I will wait until we receive official confirmation from the Melbourne Football Club. No point getting ahead of ourselves until they actually start construction.

The positive about the Caulfield area is a lot of Melbourne supporters "generally" live around there. I myself used to live not far over in Ormond for about 2 years and regularly saw other Melbourne supporters in Caulfield, Malvern, Glen Huntly and Bentleigh. There is also the opportunity to develop community engagement in the area.  Although, we should continue to have community engagement in Casey as well. Particularly as we still have a 30 year deal with the Casey Council and it is a growth area too with many young families.

[Yossarian 1,808]

Sounds ideal to me, but early news from supporters in the know makes me nervous after last time

[beelzebub 22,225]

Im a bit ...believe it when i see it... ( and by that...official ann... not so much a JCB  turning sods.. )

Caulfield IS the middle of Melb.... ..very accessible.  .

In an odd way it might put to bed this idea we're all silver-tails... 

I really like the idea.  Still keep some form of identity within the G...  but get everyone/thing in one place.

 

[whatwhat say what 19,094]

17 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Im a bit ...believe it when i see it... ( and by that...official ann... not so much a JCB  turning sods.. )

Caulfield IS the middle of Melb.... ..very accessible.  .

In an odd way it might put to bed this idea we're all silver-tails... 

I really like the idea.  Still keep some form of identity within the G...  but get everyone/thing in one place.

 

more likely to enhance it, if anything

i for one welcome the heartland of toorak through to caulfield being ours