Farewell Jesse Hogan

[Mickey 4,181]

5 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Another case for a vomit reaction button ?

[DemonOX 8,541]

36 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

A good mate of mine knows a few of Jesse's family. The story goes that apparently Jesse never felt fully accepted at MFC, he was always on the outer. Claimed that even though he raised trade possibility with the club, he definitely felt pushed.

3rd hand info, so take as you will.

Maybe he wouldn’t have felt pushed if he agreed to sign an extension. 

[Leoncelli_36 2,264]

40 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

But you’d boo Mahoney for being bent over because Jesse clearly wanted to go home and Mahoney made it happen? 

What are you on about? 

[beelzebub 22,241]

The only angst anyone will have is of their own creation.

The positive is we are Melbourne. ... And everyone else isn't.

Am looking forward to seeing our noobs in red and blue. What others do ... . isn't us. 

[pewpewpew 686]

13 minutes ago, Demonland said:

I can't tell if this is a photoshop or not. Never seen either of these guys smile.

[Willmoy1947 3,804]

I was gonna say , whose the bloke on the left?

[reynolds46 817]

27 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Caption "Jesse, my game plan as always will be focused on high scoring""

[Binmans PA 26,270]

1 hour ago, Moonshadow said:

A good mate of mine knows a few of Jesse's family. The story goes that apparently Jesse never felt fully accepted at MFC, he was always on the outer. Claimed that even though he raised trade possibility with the club, he definitely felt pushed.

3rd hand info, so take as you will.

Hang on. Not shooting you down here, Moonman, but Jesse "never felt fully accepted" at Melbourne? Surely not. 

And if there is even a skerric of truth in it, I wonder if it might have been because he never committed long-term?

[beelzebub 22,241]

There's a sea out there.

It's a mass of perceptions , of interpretation , of half descriptions.

Careful where you fish .

[Mazer Rackham 14,970]

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

"I signed on coz Mr Lyon said I won't have to run too hard, and I can have lots of days off to surf, I won't have to give up the cancer sticks, and I can finish training whenever I want. And he won't yell at me. Isn't that right, Mr Lyon?"

"That's right, Jesse ... heh heh heh ... that's right, son."

[DeeZee 6,779]

Always a WA boy.

His heart was back home and could never fully commit to us.

Just another opposition player now.

We will win it without him.

[FarNorthernD 5,848]

5 hours ago, Demonland said:

 

Im guessing the quote isn’t accurate as for some reason I can’t open the article but has Jesse just said he is happy to be home but doesn’t expect to play finals? Dockers supporters are going to be stoked to hear that.

[david_neitz_is_my_dad 3,930]

He made the right call, aside from the stated homesick and personal issues from constant injuries to games with no impact Jesse needed a fresh start. Who knows the effects of watching a team you where brought into in its darkest days push into September whilst you sit on the sidelines, perhaps he saw that the team had gone around him and he was no longer a key piece. Maybe he was frustrated with his playing position and the teams style, maybe Dean Kent moving on helped the decision.

Jesse will be a good forward but not the best, Freo would want to improve a lot from this season to give him good opportunities. Whilst i would rather have him in the side we will not good backwards from this, others will get their opportunities and  Melbourne will be a very strong attacking side 2019.

[Deefiant 427]

3 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

A good mate of mine knows a few of Jesse's family. The story goes that apparently Jesse never felt fully accepted at MFC, he was always on the outer. Claimed that even though he raised trade possibility with the club, he definitely felt pushed.

3rd hand info, so take as you will.

Wouldn't be surprised. Would explain the massive unders we took for him. Let this sink in. GWS traded Boyd 1 year in for pick 4 and griffen and they were offering pick 6 and another later pick for griffen. 

Boyd had and still has not showed a quarter of the potential of hogan

[FireInTheBennelly 4,026]

Reckon Ross will be gone before the bye.

[deanox 8,677]

6 hours ago, rpfc said:

I’m interested to hear what the reaction is at the G for the inevitable game we play against them next year. Will we boo him? Nuff nuffs? What do you reckon?

I hope we don't.  This has been conducted with the highest levels of public integrity.  We know he has had issues and struggles.  I'd rather it's clsp and support him.  His statement is brave. I can't remember reading a quote from an AFL player that puts family and friends above final in the way that he has stated it. 

[old55 21,384]

2 hours ago, FarNorthernD said:

Im guessing the quote isn’t accurate as for some reason I can’t open the article but has Jesse just said he is happy to be home but doesn’t expect to play finals? Dockers supporters are going to be stoked to hear that.

Almost

"Obviously I do want to play in finals and flags, but at this stage it was more important to get back around my family and friends, and have a fresh start.”

[P-man 13,224]

Knowing he was in discussions with Fyfe and Lyon last year places a full stop on this for me. He has had one foot in Freo for some time. That was always suspected but it’s beyond a shadow of a doubt now. 

He’s a Fremantle player who once played for Melbourne. Good luck to him. Time to move on.

[old55 21,384]

I had a bit of a soft spot for Freo, fellow travellers in adversity and all that.  I don't wish Jesse any ill will personally but Freo have lost me.  

I don’t like North and Freo are up there with them now, unlikeable but unremarkable.

Edited October 19, 2018 by Fifty-5

[beelzebub 22,241]

8 hours ago, DemonOX said:

Maybe he wouldn’t have felt pushed if he agreed to sign an extension. 

That was NEVER happening. You see that now ? He was ALWAYS going...

In some respects he'd been gone for a while.

Such is life. 

We'll ( MFC) be fine. 

[faultydet 7,593]

Why are we adding pages to  a thread about Fremantles centre half forward?

Seems pointless now.

[Winners at last 4,763]

9 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Considering the message he left the MFC on Instagram i wonder about that. 

My take on all this is right now, he is not 100% tuned in to play. At the MFC that is what is required. I still hold the hunch he may return in 3-5 years, if he is still fit to play

Trent Croad says hi ....

[Demonland 65,731]

8 hours ago, FarNorthernD said:

Im guessing the quote isn’t accurate as for some reason I can’t open the article but has Jesse just said he is happy to be home but doesn’t expect to play finals? Dockers supporters are going to be stoked to hear that.

Hogan is fully aware of what he might be leaving behind at Melbourne after their preliminary final appearance in 2018.

“To come from the bottom and see the list now and how close they potentially are to winning a flag, that was a serious factor going into this,” he said.

“But I sat down with Simon Goodwin at the end of the year and had a really good chat about where I was at mentally and as a footballer.

“Obviously I do want to play in finals and flags, but at this stage it was more important to get back around my family and friends, and have a fresh start.”

[rjay 23,937]

8 hours ago, rjay said:

"I caught up with Nat and Ross last year in the case of a random trade and the way they were talking with a bit of a five-year plan, it kind of aligned with where I was at,” Hogan said.

“Then this year we had further conversations about it with a bit more depth and they aligned with where I was at.

“I agreed with what Nat and Ross were saying so the natural pull to Freo was on the back of those conversations.”

After reading that I hope Goody & Jack have been sitting down & having a chat with young Cera & talking a bit of a 5 year plan & aligning where he's at...then we can have further conversations with a bit more depth next trade period and get him onboard in 2020...

Probably more appropriate in this thread...

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

12 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

A good mate of mine knows a few of Jesse's family. The story goes that apparently Jesse never felt fully accepted at MFC, he was always on the outer. Claimed that even though he raised trade possibility with the club, he definitely felt pushed.

3rd hand info, so take as you will.

Yep, that’s interesting. If true, I wonder if Dean Kent leaving to go to the Saints represented the loss of a mate in circumstances where he was already feeling a bit isolated, and he just thought - it’s time.

I heard (again hearsay to the power of the distance between the Earth and the Sun) that the leadership group wasn’t entirely happy with him. Added to this, a mate who’s wife is best friends with the wife of an absolute club legend (former player) told me that Hogan’s name was involved in trade discussions last year - I didn’t post it at the time because I couldn’t be bothered dealing with the wrath of a few here.

Anyway - whatever the reasons, he’s now gone. As I said, he seems like a decent fellow - but, as an observer from afar, Hogan’s relationship with the club always had an awkwardness about it.

I think I’m going to love Sam May.