End of year delistings

[CHF 2,630]

My understanding is that the following are out of contract in October  and unsigned at the moment.

·         Frost

·         Vince

·         Hulett

·         Kennedy

·         M. King

·         Trengove

·         Spencer

·         Vandenberg

Rookies

·         Filipovic

·         White

·         Maynard

Frost – Has trade value and seems to be on the outer after spending the last few matches at Casey. As a lot have speculated, may end up as part of the play for Lever. If we cannot get lever or there is no value for money to trade him, I would keep.

Vince – Would sign up for another season. Play him as required but give him a mentor role with a few of the young players on the list.

Hulett – is a tough one for me. Not seen him play but I do like his size. Borderline delist. If they can see an upside then persist but he has been on the list long enough for the coaching team to know what they have got.

Kennedy – Delist. If we cannot play him in any game this season after the injuries we had and the numbers he racked up at Casey then there is a problem.

M.King – Sign him up for 2 more

Trengove – Delist

Spencer – See what happens with his RFA status. We managed without him after his injury and do not see value in keeping him. We know exactly what he might bring to the team and we worked around it.

Vandenberg – another year to see how he comes back from his injury.

ROOKIES

Filipovic – sign on for another year for development

White – Delist. Has not seemed to develop this season.

Maynard – Elevate to main list.

Of the players whose contracts end at the end of next season, Kennedy-Harris and Kent might have some trade value. Johnstone and McKenna will have to develop and show something. The rookies contracted till the end of next year Keilty to develop further and seems to be tracking well. Tim Smith had an unlucky year with injuries and will need a good run at it next season. Garland? No idea what they may do with him. If it was up to me I would look at buying out his contract and delisting him.

Summary;

Delist – Kennedy, Trengove, White (R), Hulett (possible), Vandenberg (possible), Garland (Possible)

Elevate – Maynard, J Smith

Trade value – Frost, Kent, Kennedy-Harris (?) Bugg(?)

[Jara 1,149]

On 28 August 2017 at 2:54 PM, TheoX said:

Bye bye Kennedy you spud. Never trade with Collingwood ever again please, they screw us every time.

Hear hear. Dunno about Kennedy but my god I never want to trade with Collingwood again. In my worst nightmares I see Old Plankhands dropping marks, Prince gazing longingly into the mirror and Howe taking species.

[bing181 8,304]

Garland is contracted for next year. He can't/won't be delisted.

Only possibility for creating space is that he retires or asks for a transfer (to a lower league one would presume), but chance of that happening when he has a contract is pretty well zero.

[junk 342]

White has been on the rokie list for 3 yrs,like the other King we had,he will be delisted.Not sure what value T.Smith and Keilty are to the club. Perhaps Fritsch from Casey may get pick up by the Dees.

[Coq au vin 754]

1 hour ago, CHF said:

My understanding is that the following are out of contract in October  and unsigned at the moment.

·         Frost

·         Vince

·         Hulett

·         Kennedy

·         M. King

·         Trengove

·         Spencer

·         Vandenberg

Rookies

·         Filipovic

·         White

·         Maynard

Frost – Has trade value and seems to be on the outer after spending the last few matches at Casey. As a lot have speculated, may end up as part of the play for Lever. If we cannot get lever or there is no value for money to trade him, I would keep.

Vince – Would sign up for another season. Play him as required but give him a mentor role with a few of the young players on the list.

Hulett – is a tough one for me. Not seen him play but I do like his size. Borderline delist. If they can see an upside then persist but he has been on the list long enough for the coaching team to know what they have got.

Kennedy – Delist. If we cannot play him in any game this season after the injuries we had and the numbers he racked up at Casey then there is a problem.

M.King – Sign him up for 2 more

Trengove – Delist

Spencer – See what happens with his RFA status. We managed without him after his injury and do not see value in keeping him. We know exactly what he might bring to the team and we worked around it.

Vandenberg – another year to see how he comes back from his injury.

ROOKIES

Filipovic – sign on for another year for development

White – Delist. Has not seemed to develop this season.

Maynard – Elevate to main list.

Of the players whose contracts end at the end of next season, Kennedy-Harris and Kent might have some trade value. Johnstone and McKenna will have to develop and show something. The rookies contracted till the end of next year Keilty to develop further and seems to be tracking well. Tim Smith had an unlucky year with injuries and will need a good run at it next season. Garland? No idea what they may do with him. If it was up to me I would look at buying out his contract and delisting him.

Summary;

Delist – Kennedy, Trengove, White (R), Hulett (possible), Vandenberg (possible), Garland (Possible)

Elevate – Maynard, J Smith

Trade value – Frost, Kent, Kennedy-Harris (?) Bugg(?)

Excellent summary!

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

Some of you need to learn show some respect.

These guys are working their arses off for this club - they all want to succeed, and I expect they want to succeed at the MFC.

Sure, some of them aren't quite good enough, or haven't showed quite enough, or are past their used by date. But, for a period of time, they have served this club, they have sweated for this club. Surely this is to be respected.

For those of you who seem to take some weird glee each year in the delisting thread, pull your heads in. I expect many of you don't even know what the inside of a weights room looks like, nor would you look any of these players in the eye when delivering such harsh criticism.

They are not cattle. Rather, they're footballers who've represented this club, some of whom may potentially represent it for a few years to come.

Fair dinkum.

 

[old dee 23,117]

6 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said:

Some of you need to learn show some respect.

These guys are working their arses off for this club - they all want to succeed, and I expect they want to succeed at the MFC.

Sure, some of them aren't quite good enough, or haven't showed quite enough, or are past their used by date. But, for a period of time, they have served this club, they have sweated for this club. Surely this is to be respected.

For those of you who seem to take some weird glee each year in the delisting thread, pull your heads in. I expect many of you don't even know what the inside of a weights room looks like, nor would you look any of these players in the eye when delivering such harsh criticism.

They are not cattle. Rather, they're footballers who've represented this club, some of whom may potentially represent it for a few years to come.

Fair dinkum.

 

Most of them I would think will be around in 2018 and beyond. It will take a month or two for rational thought to re enter Demonland RB.

Funny that one game back people were still confidently talking finals and perhaps as far as the third week. Now it seems 90% of the team are bums who could not get a kick in a football factory.

Edited August 31, 2017 by old dee

[Dee-licious 1,867]

@CHF Really balanced summary. Want to add what I can do this. 

Frost – Word is he wants to see what happens with Lever before committing. Agree. If Lever isnt there, sign for 3 years, if he is, then he is entitled to find another home where he can play week in week out. 

Vince – Will sign a year contract, like he will every year before he decides his time is up. 

Hulett – He has gotten better in the last 4 weeks and if he can put together a good finals series I see a rookie spot for him. 

Kennedy – Try and find a home for him. Too good not to be on a list somewhere. Hasnt worked at the Dees, maybe at Carlton. 

M.King – Agree with another 2. 

Trengove – Help him find another club because he deserves it if he wants it. 

Spencer – He has been offered a 1 year contract if he cannot find another home. I'm happy with that. 

Vandenberg – word is he is holding out on his contract and wants to test the waters. So if he does decide to stay it should be a 2 year without any worries. Expect him to go to somewhere he feels he can play AFL week in week out. 

ROOKIES

Filipovic – sign on for another year for development

White – Sadly I see him going and Hulett taking his spot. 

Maynard – Elevate to main list.

 

Everything being equal and people finding better opportunities that leaves us with

In: J. Smith, Maynard, Lever, 3 picks at the draft table (Andrew Brayshaw, Hamish Brayshaw, ???)

Out: Lamumba, Kennedy, Trengove, Spencer, Vandenberg, Frost

I think it could be a very quiet year for us come trade and draft week. 

Edited August 31, 2017 by Dee-licious

[Coq au vin 754]

I'd want to see what happens with Vandenberg's foot before committing to a contract with him and I'm sure other clubs would too.

[Xavierrodway 14]

Assuming that we lose Spencer which is looking more and more likely for me, do you reckon that if we pull off a trade to get rid of Kent and to get Tabener that we could maybe convert him into a Forward/ Ruck role to give Gawn a solid back up who will be a threat to all defences in the league.

Well aware that there are a lot of variables that will need to go to plan for this to end up working out, but how many of you believe that this would help a possible finals assault for us next season?!

[Go the Biff 3,211]

1 hour ago, Xavierrodway said:

Assuming that we lose Spencer which is looking more and more likely for me, do you reckon that if we pull off a trade to get rid of Kent and to get Tabener that we could maybe convert him into a Forward/ Ruck role to give Gawn a solid back up who will be a threat to all defences in the league.

Well aware that there are a lot of variables that will need to go to plan for this to end up working out, but how many of you believe that this would help a possible finals assault for us next season?!

I am beginning to suspect that you are in fact, a homesick Matt Taberner

Edited August 31, 2017 by Go the Biff

[Lucifers Hero 37,407]

Not a delisting and not about a player but Sam McClure is reporting Collingwood is making a big play for Craig Jennings.  I think he is still contracted to us but is very highly regarded in the industry.

He was hand picked by Goodwin and McCartney so I sure hope Jennings stays the distance with us!

[beelzebub 22,542]

6 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Not a delisting and not about a player but Sam McClure is reporting Collingwood is making a big play for Craig Jennings.  I think he is still contracted to us but is very highly regarded in the industry.

He was hand picked by Goodwin and McCartney so I sure hope Jennings stays the distance with us!

What again was his expertise ?

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

Am I reading too much into the fact that Frost is listed as an 'out' in the teams listed for Casey's first final?

Is he injured? Or has he been told we won't be offering him a contract for next year and he'll be traded..

[Wiseblood 24,636]

16 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Am I reading too much into the fact that Frost is listed as an 'out' in the teams listed for Casey's first final?

Is he injured? Or has he been told we won't be offering him a contract for next year and he'll be traded..

Is it possible he is not eligible to play finals, in that he didn't play enough games?

[Akum 2,660]

32 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Not a delisting and not about a player but Sam McClure is reporting Collingwood is making a big play for Craig Jennings.  I think he is still contracted to us but is very highly regarded in the industry.

He was hand picked by Goodwin and McCartney so I sure hope Jennings stays the distance with us!

Very much hope he's happy with us and stays.

[beelzebub 22,542]

3 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Is it possible he is not eligible to play finals, in that he didn't play enough games?

think youll find he played too many in the 1sts

[beelzebub 22,542]

1 minute ago, Akum said:

Very much hope he's happy with us and stays.

Devils advocate...what does he do, what has he done. How are we benefited  by him staying. Im just asking Cheers

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

6 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Is it possible he is not eligible to play finals, in that he didn't play enough games?

Good point, didn't think of that.

[poita 3,723]

Just a tip for everyone trying to trade out our VFL players for draft picks - it's not going to happen. Players like Vandenberg, Kent, Kennedy, Spencer & Bugg have zero value. We might let them walk for pick 100 just to get them a new home, but that would be it. 

If you want quality, you have to give up quality. Frost may have some value. Salem may have some value. I can't see too many others being considered expendable unless the deal of the century comes along.

[Ouch! 2,093]

Don't agree,... completely

I think Kent, Spencer, JKH, etc .... they all have some 'currency', others such as Kennedy perhaps not as much.

I still think that Trenners could get a place @ another club,... but thats just a left field guess!

[Engorged Onion 9,542]

For those who are wanting to trade Salem - why is this?

[Ditcha 338]

1 hour ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Am I reading too much into the fact that Frost is listed as an 'out' in the teams listed for Casey's first final?

Is he injured? Or has he been told we won't be offering him a contract for next year and he'll be traded..

Sam Frost is not eligible to play for Casey in the finals.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

24 minutes ago, Danelska said:

For those who are wanting to trade Salem - why is this?

He has value.

I don't necessarily want to trade him but we aren't going to get the likes of Josh Kelly by offering Dean Kent.

[KingDingAling 3,656]

15 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

He has value.

I don't necessarily want to trade him but we aren't going to get the likes of Josh Kelly by offering Dean Kent.

Ironically, the only hope we have of getting Josh Kelly is if he wants to play with his mate Salem.