2017 Post Mortem

[bing181 9,349]

6 hours ago, jnrmac said:

Pathetic and churlish response. If I was an investor in a company that was responsible for such a performance I would expect, and it would be a given, that the company responded to an appalling result.

We’re not investors, we’re clients.

[Lucifers Hero 40,490]

2 minutes ago, bing181 said:

We’re not investors, we’re clients.

We are more like investors:  Vote in the Board, Go to AGM's, Buy shares (sort of) via memberships; Get Financial Statements and have a vested interest in their fortunes.

Clients buy a service once or more and then walk away.

[beelzebub 23,388]

The club accounts itself to the stakeholders. We and sponsors are these.

As LH suggests as members we vote. This is as a direct result of investing into the club.

When entities fail to meet forecasts etc they are often brought before their shareholders for an extraordinary report.

This would correlate with the club makingvan announcement to its members ( from where im sitting )

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

8 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Clients buy a service once or more and then walk away.

Sounds like the world's oldest profession.

 

Just like the world's oldest pasttime, which is getting your hopes up over the MFC and later realising you've been f***ed over.

[Coq au vin 755]

50 minutes ago, defuture15 said:

In particular from the kick outs.

I would like to see weed tried there. He can mark but looks lost in traffic in the forward line. ?neitz mk2

He's far too puny to be compared with D. Neitz.

Edited September 4, 2017 by Diamond
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[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

20 minutes ago, bing181 said:

We’re not investors, we’re clients.

Some other words to describe Melbourne supporters

rubes
marks
pigeons
suckers
gulls
dupes
chumps

[DaveyDee 421]

On 9/3/2017 at 1:19 PM, Macca said:

History tells us

 

[jnrmac 20,213]

3 hours ago, beelzebub said:

The club accounts itself to the stakeholders. We and sponsors are these.

As LH suggests as members we vote. This is as a direct result of investing into the club.

When entities fail to meet forecasts etc they are often brought before their shareholders for an extraordinary report.

This would correlate with the club makingvan announcement to its members ( from where im sitting )

Good point about the sponsors. I imagine the sponsors would have been excited to finally see melbourne make finals. This, after all, is a massive potential for exposure and one of the reasons why a sponsor invests in an up and coming team. The extra few weeks of exposure with only 8 clubs left to exploit it is gold.

If the club has treated the sponsors with the same disdain as supporters then this bodes very poorly. Now I have no clue about how they have treated sponsors this year but I know form first hand experience in the Neeld/Gardner years that we were woeful. The club was happy to take the money but the sponsors were almost unanimously peeved at the way the club treated them. The Mission Foods debacle was instructive. We have improved emormously since this period (from a very low base) and I would hope that the sponsors have had the club engage with them about the finish to the year.

But the way they have treated supporters has me fearing they haven't done the right thing.

 

[Hellaintabadplacetobe 4,297]

Big Max put the following caption up a few hours ago on a new sports app called 20four, along with a heartfelt video of how he crook in the guts he has felt since the game....check it out it is a great behind the scenes look into athletes of many sports lives.

"2 weeks hiatus from social media, I`m back! Stay tuned for 11 weeks of determination to get back for a strong 2018. We all feel as [censored] as you do dees fans, lets bottle that and get going into 2018"

 

[Demonsone 2,050]

Goodwin kept on saying & reference  to the correct behaviours & haven't achieved anything until round 23.....

If thats not saying to his players don't get ahead of yourselves, i don't know what is...

Im sure he will talk about it again at the B&F....

Edited September 4, 2017 by Hogan2014

[jnrmac 20,213]

1 hour ago, Hogan2014 said:

Goodwin kept on saying & reference  to the correct behaviours & haven't achieved anything until round 23.....

If thats not saying to his players don't get ahead of yourselves, i don't know what is...

Im sure he will talk about it again at the B&F....

It didn't work did it. He failed at his job of getting them ready for games. 11 times we lost the first quarters and we only kicked 5 goals once in an opening stanza....

[puntkick 325]

8 hours ago, beelzebub said:

The club accounts itself to the stakeholders. We and sponsors are these.

As LH suggests as members we vote. This is as a direct result of investing into the club.

When entities fail to meet forecasts etc they are often brought before their shareholders for an extraordinary report.

This would correlate with the club makingvan announcement to its members ( from where im sitting )

dear bb when you're not sitting could you come come back in English please 

[beelzebub 23,388]

5 hours ago, puntkick said:

dear bb when you're not sitting could you come come back in English please 

Perhaps you might choose to learn it PH.

[Demon Jack 7,038]

Not sure if this has been posted anywhere, but a video popped up on Facebook today featuring Max Gawn and his post-season reflections. 

 

[Hellaintabadplacetobe 4,297]

6 minutes ago, Demon Jack said:

Not sure if this has been posted anywhere, but a video popped up on Facebook today featuring Max Gawn and his post-season reflections. 

 

I mentioned this in a post yesterday in this thread. Can see he is hurting, which im happy with!

[layzie 34,160]

Where are those people who couldn't wait to celebrate finals? Not having a go, would just like to hear from them.

[deejammin' 2,374]

I'm stunned we haven't heard from Goodwin. We would have 2-3 statements from him all season (training press conference, end of week/selection press conference, Simon's selection and the post game) and since one of the most disappointing and inexcusable efforts of the year we've had one brief (compare his previous efforts with this presser, much shorter) and pretty flat effort.

I understand that he probably had to rush into exit interviews early last week, but it's been almost a fortnight. If ever he needed to put something on the club website the time is now (or was last week). I honestly believe he is furious and shell shocked and so are we all but the club should be getting on the front foot and not letting already disillusioned supporters drift away. The proof will be in the playing next year but in the short term they should be at least trying to keep the members engaged. It's kind of stunning that nothing has been said, almost worrying.

[biggestred 5,195]

Tbh if we'd heard from goodwin we'd just be saying how weve heard it all before and we'll believe it when we see it....

I just want to see how badly it burns in r23 next year.

[deejammin' 2,374]

1 minute ago, biggestred said:

Tbh if we'd heard from goodwin we'd just be saying how weve heard it all before and we'll believe it when we see it....

I just want to see how badly it burns in r23 next year.

Sure, but it's PR 101. It's not always about what actually matters, sometimes it's about how it looks.

Goodwin talked the talk all season, "it's not where we are now, it's where we are at the end of round 23" "we haven't achieved anything yet" etc. 

He has faced very limited adversity in his first year, he's largely been in a honeymoon period, sure we stuffed up a few games and individual players copped some scutiny but largely Simon has relied upon performance and the boys backing up the next week and a lot of the time they have.

However, this is the first time he failed this year and doesn't have another weeks football to make amends. In fact by using his "where we are after round 23" mantra he has put more scrutiny on what just happened and rather than facing the music, even if it's the same old empty platitudes, He's nowhere to be seen.

It looks bad, I'm sure he had good reasons and I personally like him and think we're heading in the right direction, but to some justifiably [censored] off supporters it just looks really bad. Amateur or petulant even and I'm shocked the club hasn't realised this.

[Demon Jack 7,038]

The coach speaks.

https://twitter.com/melbournefc/status/904966545419276290

EDIT: Unsure of how to embed Twitter posts in the new Demonland update. Just click the link.

Edited September 5, 2017 by Demon Jack

[beelzebub 23,388]

finally

[pinkshark 950]

On 02/09/2017 at 7:39 PM, bing181 said:

Seriously?

A journalist taking the [censored] at the expense of the poor-me, defeatist attitudes of Melbourne supporters is somehow going to help?

 

Yeah. Absolutely. Probably go undefeated. Seriously.

[Sir Why You Little 37,244]

 

[What 18,810]

Lyon, Lloyd and Barrett with Melbournes season in review

 

http://www.afl.com.au/video/2017-09-07/some-loyal-dees-should-look-for-a-new-home

[MudDogs Gawn Win.. someday 499]

On 05/09/2017 at 2:24 PM, Hell Bent said:

I mentioned this in a post yesterday in this thread. Can see he is hurting, which im happy with!

@Beetle