MATCH PREVIEW AND TEAM SELECTION - Round 17

[Monocology 1,109]

Dean Kent travelling to offer hugs after goals perhaps? A simple side step & he's left looking like Forest Gump.

Edited July 13, 2017 by Monocology

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33 minutes ago, Monocology said:

Dean Kent travelling to offer hugs after goals perhaps? A simple side step & he's left looking like Forest Gump.

Forest Gump was an All American thank you very much!!

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42 minutes ago, Monocology said:

Dean Kent travelling to offer hugs after goals perhaps? A simple side step & he's left looking like Forest Gump.

Kent does like a box of chocolates. 

[Garbo 1,559]

How does Smith survive over Stretch, I know Stretch hasn't been great but what has smith done, looked completely out of his depth last week and has only had one game in the vfl coming into that, the kid must have pictures of someone or something.

[Willmoy1947 4,221]

Smith is in, because the second letter in his surname is "M" and not "T" 

[bing181 9,436]

More than happy to give JKH a chance. He's a young player, has missed a lot of footy with injuries, and this is his first real season where he's had a decent run at it. I don't think anyone would disagree that he was poor earlier in the year, but we don't pay top dollar to guys like Brendan McCarthy to be a development coach if they can't actually develop players.

[rpfc 28,966]

Very surprised to see Lynch in there but they couldn't be rushing him back for us? I know they think we are a good team but Adelaide have enough to hold us off so I can only assume Lynch is good to go.

That is a powerful forward line...

Glad to see JKH back, hope he can get used to the tempo straight away but it isn't an easy transition.

And those that want Goodwin to 'just be straight with us and Trengove' about his status have never been a coach before; you can't be that honest because a) it might not be true if enough blokes get hurt, and b) you don't want to have that dynamic of a player being told he is done. 

Players know the score, no need to smack them over the head with it to appease sentimental supporters.

[mattjm 151]

3 hours ago, leucopogon said:

Adelaide are going in way too tall. Conditions will suit ground ball players, I'm thinking we're in with a big shot at this now.

same. their midfield aint much chop too which assists us and our injuries in there

[What 18,810]

5 hours ago, rpfc said:

Very surprised to see Lynch in there but they couldn't be rushing him back for us? I know they think we are a good team but Adelaide have enough to hold us off so I can only assume Lynch is good to go.

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Viral meningitis,  and his first game back is in the Darwin conditions.

They will be playing a man down.

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3 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

Viral meningitis,  and his first game back is in the Darwin conditions.

They will be playing a man down.

It's ok in Adelaide the brain is regarded as a vestigial organ.

[Biffen 12,949]

19 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

Goodwin also confirmed that both Watts and Tyson WILL play vs. Port next weekend.

Unless we win so big they can't get back in.

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10 hours ago, Garbo said:

How does Smith survive over Stretch, I know Stretch hasn't been great but what has smith done, looked completely out of his depth last week and has only had one game in the vfl coming into that, the kid must have pictures of someone or something.

Goodwin, and Roos before him, seem intent on giving most promoted players more than a week before they send them back to the VFL. (I know there have been exceptions, most recently Mitch White). If Smith doesn't show something in Darwin, he may find himself back at Casey next week. Of course, if the injured players start to return, he may find himself back there anyway.

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12 hours ago, loges said:

Lynch back after 2 weeks with meningitis hmmmmm. My partner had it several years ago, viral which is the lesser form, it is a very debilitating diease. She would still get partial symptoms for a few years if she was tired or run down. I reckon he'll struggle as the longer the game goes. 

I'm absolutely staggered Lynch is playing.

You would've thought Darwin would be the last venue they'd risk him given the oppressive humidity and the fact they have a massive game against Geelong 6 days later.

Hope the risk backfires on them.

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11 hours ago, Monocology said:

Dean Kent travelling to offer hugs after goals perhaps? 

Hope he's hugging a lot on Saturday night.

[JV7 2,375]

16 hours ago, McQueen said:

Was looking forward to not having to deal with Lynch on top of Jenkins and Walker.

 

Surpised the Crows picked Lynch he's been crook for 2 weeks & in hospital.. He will blow up in 5 minutes in Darwin, hopefully this is a sign the crows are underestimating the conditions 

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11 hours ago, Garbo said:

How does Smith survive over Stretch, I know Stretch hasn't been great but what has smith done, looked completely out of his depth last week and has only had one game in the vfl coming into that, the kid must have pictures of someone or something.

The footy dept clearly want to get games into Smith and Hoges after a long lay off.

Remember Smith has played half of 1 qtr of AFL footy before last week.

He'll find his legs at some point and he did just enough to go again especially with Salem, Viney, Watts and Jones all out meaning we need someone like Smith off half back.

[poita 3,921]

I can understand the Stretch omission given how poor he has been the past two weeks, but how Kent survives is beyond me. A small forward who can't kick goals from 30m out directly in front, and who won't tackle is a complete liability. Smith gets a chance to do what Wagner did last week, and play a million times better than his first game.

If Adelaide get on top early, I suspect Tom might end up playing in defence at some point, as we look undersized down back at present. Hopefully Max & our midfield can at least break even and give our forwards a chance.

 

 

[leave it to deever 17,598]

12 hours ago, Garbo said:

How does Smith survive over Stretch, I know Stretch hasn't been great but what has smith done, looked completely out of his depth last week and has only had one game in the vfl coming into that, the kid must have pictures of someone or something.

Thought Stretch wasn't bad last weekend. Certainly would have kept him over Smith. Especially in the top end heat. Interesting, like some other choices this year. JKH probably needs to strut his stuff after the 3 games this year with little impact. Deserves another chance from the reports of his work at Casey and we could use his speed. 

Can't say they don't give players a go at the MFC (except of course for Trenners).

[Garbo 1,559]

2 hours ago, leave it to deever said:

Can't say they don't give players a go at the MFC (except of course for Trenners).

I wouldn't be surprised if Trengove has already told the club he's retired and just wants to play out the year and help the younger players coming through in the vfl, similar to Cross a few years back

Edited July 14, 2017 by Garbo

[jnrmac 20,305]

4 minutes ago, Garbo said:

I wouldn't be surprised if Trengove has already told the club he's retired and just wants to play out the year and help the younger players coming through in the vfl, similar to Cross a few years back

They wouldn't pick him as an emergency on that basis. Rather play a younger guy.

[DemonOX 8,837]

1 hour ago, Garbo said:

I wouldn't be surprised if Trengove has already told the club he's retired and just wants to play out the year and help the younger players coming through in the vfl, similar to Cross a few years back

Then why list him as an emergency continually?

[leave it to deever 17,598]

1 hour ago, Garbo said:

I wouldn't be surprised if Trengove has already told the club he's retired and just wants to play out the year and help the younger players coming through in the vfl, similar to Cross a few years back

Would explain a few things.

Whenever  I read  a Casey report they always wax lyrical about how well hes going but yet why always tell us and never give him a gig.

Dont know how the guy stays motivated to be honest. Wish him nothing but a great future.

Edited July 14, 2017 by leave it to deever

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I'm excited about JKH's selection in the team so did some digging on his VFL stats (which have been eye-popping at times).

In 8 VFL games this season he's averaged 27.1 touches and 5.8 tackles. I don't go to the games themselves and didn't catch Casey on TV a couple of weeks back but I believe he's playing as an inside mid. He's going at 62.6% which isn't great but inside mids tend to spray it more than backs or wings. He hasn't been very consistent (3 games under 18 possessions) and he wouldn't be the first player who failed to impact in the seniors after big VFL showings but I'm keen to get another look at him in the seniors.

In his three AFL games this season (rounds 5-7) he averaged 11.6 touches and generally failed to get amongst it playing as a forward. He'll probably still primarily play forward but there's a good chance he gets some run through the midfield with Jones and Viney out of action. 

One of the things I've liked most about this year has been Neal-Bullen's ability to transfer his VFL form of last year to senior level this year. Would be nice if JKH could make a similar leap at some point. Don't expect it to be this season, in fact he'll probably disappoint this weekend, but I'll be watching him closely. 

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16 hours ago, Garbo said:

How does Smith survive over Stretch, I know Stretch hasn't been great but what has smith done, looked completely out of his depth last week and has only had one game in the vfl coming into that, the kid must have pictures of someone or something.

So drop him after one game back - that'll get him up to AFL standard for sure lol

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

Stretch has been poor for two weeks, as others have stated.

Kent was pretty average last week but has clearly been given one more week like Stretch was given.

Goody won't unsettle the team too much by taking out a player that performs poorly after only one week. White was an exception perhaps because positionally, he's not very versatile and Wagner is virtually the same player. Smith on the other hand has a different mix of attributes.

I like that JKH has come in for Stretch, I certainly rate him higher than Billy. I reckon supporters have jumped off the JKH-train far too early given the fact he has been playing VFL and has been injury-savaged prior but his form has been super solid and he's a very smart player who offers more than Stretch does imo

For an outside player, Billy is fairly average. His disposal isn't damaging but rather neat and he's not a line breaker in terms of pace. I don't really know what the future holds for him.

Edited July 14, 2017 by stevethemanjordan