POST MATCH DISCUSSION - Round 15

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 5,927]

4 hours ago, xarronn said:

If that's what you meant, then I did. It's this line that threw me "but you think it was an even playing field?"

 

All gd mate, I think we're all worked up over this whole debarcle, waited so long to be on a friday night and they go and deliver a win on a silver platter for the COLA specialists.

[buck_nekkid 5,527]

Oliver would have been on earlier if Swans kicked straight.  Rotations usually happen after goals, or when there is a stoppage is on the wing near the gates. The ball didn't leave their 50 for so long, that no rotation was 'possible' under the rotation rules.  Players often get caught on the bench for longer stretches than planned due to this.

[Lucifers Hero 37,227]

14 minutes ago, buck_nekkid said:

Oliver would have been on earlier if Swans kicked straight.  Rotations usually happen after goals, or when there is a stoppage is on the wing near the gates. The ball didn't leave their 50 for so long, that no rotation was 'possible' under the rotation rules.  Players often get caught on the bench for longer stretches than planned due to this.

To me that is the issue - that rotations are locked into set plays and the rules are self imposed and inflexible.

You would think when a key player is stuck on the bench the runner would go out to get at least a player over to the bench side of the ground to make the change.  There's a chance of a numbers mismatch for a minute but that seems a small risk if it means getting a key player on the ground.  Some flexibility is needed, I feel.

[Deemented Are Go! 3,630]

1 hour ago, RalphiusMaximus said:

It's very clear that Sydney came in with a plan to target Gawn at every opportunity.  It's already been mentioned that he was kneed in the bollocks during a boundary throw-in.  On another occasion he was flattened three times trying to get back to the centre to take the bounce after a goal, the final one shaking him enough that he went off for a spell.  The umpires did absolutely nothing to curb this behaviour, nor the scragging of our ball-winners around the packs.  Once the Swans' midfield saw that they weren't going to get pulled up they went nuts trying to beat the hell out of our mids. 

There is also the high hit on Mitch Hannan, again not even a free kick paid when he staggered away from the impact and collapsed. 

I do have to wonder if the umpires' refusal to pull them up early in the game led to the Swans players increasing their level of aggression.  Maybe worth the club hitting up AFL house for an explanation? 

Keep in mind this is all post-Bugg...

[frankie_d 1,410]

I don't like what Bugg did. He'll deserve to go for weeks.

But I can't help thinking of early Hawthorn under Clarkson - "unsociable football" - don't mind that tag too much. 

But last night we got belted - we're not tough enough yet. When Max went down, no-one came back at them.

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

1 hour ago, McQueen said:

Bit of talk about now in the Casey thread - sounds like 4 is gonna be around the mark.

ive had it too... very frustrating injury.

Yeah and it can come back. Was it Robert Harvey that jumped off a high brick wall straight onto concrete so that he could snap the tendon that causes it? Think it was, not sure how hes walking these days tho...

[Wiseblood 24,636]

1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

To me that is the issue - that rotations are locked into set plays and the rules are self imposed and inflexible.

You would think when a key player is stuck on the bench the runner would go out to get at least a player over to the bench side of the ground to make the change.  There's a chance of a numbers mismatch for a minute but that seems a small risk if it means getting a key player on the ground.  Some flexibility is needed, I feel.

True, but we all know the outcome if it doesn't work out.  If we deviate from the plan and we run someone off it could give them an extra number around the contest and potentially a scoring opportunity while Oliver tries to get towards the action.  If we had a few ball ups or throw ins on that side of the ground then it may have given him a chance, but we've got no idea who he was replacing and how they wanted to make it happen.

Swans kicking for goal was a bit of an anomaly so I don't think we can be too critical of what happened.

[BAMF 3,787]

51 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Yeah and it can come back. Was it Robert Harvey that jumped off a high brick wall straight onto concrete so that he could snap the tendon that causes it? Think it was, not sure how hes walking these days tho...

https://podiapaedia.org/wiki/orthopaedics/plantar-fasciitis/deliberate-rupture-of-plantar-fascia-to-treat-plantar-fasciitis/

Driven to despair by a partial tear in his plantar fascia -- the tissue that runs from the heel bone along the foot to attach under the arch -- Harvey famously jumped repeatedly off his kitchen table to fully rupture the band in order to allow it to heal and him to return to the field. While hardly scientific, it proved an effective remedy and perhaps an inspiration for star Eagle Josh Kennedy in his own battle with the problem this pre-season

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/an-arch-remedy-aids-eagle-josh-kennedy/news-story/4c8e012052adb6bfed16cd5246200b20

[olisik 4,060]

Sam Landsberger  @SamLandsberger

 

Four Demons were not considered for AFL selection last night after a drinking session. Broke club rules. Details @superfooty ...

[olisik 4,060]

3 minutes ago, olisik said:

Sam Landsberger  @SamLandsberger

 

Four Demons were not considered for AFL selection last night after a drinking session. Broke club rules. Details @superfooty ...

Explains why White was selected.

[What 18,810]

7 minutes ago, olisik said:

Sam Landsberger  @SamLandsberger

 

Four Demons were not considered for AFL selection last night after a drinking session. Broke club rules. Details @superfooty ...

Idiots, the lot of them.  

Especially with so many openings in the senior team.

 

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

1 hour ago, BAMF said:

https://podiapaedia.org/wiki/orthopaedics/plantar-fasciitis/deliberate-rupture-of-plantar-fascia-to-treat-plantar-fasciitis/

Driven to despair by a partial tear in his plantar fascia -- the tissue that runs from the heel bone along the foot to attach under the arch -- Harvey famously jumped repeatedly off his kitchen table to fully rupture the band in order to allow it to heal and him to return to the field. While hardly scientific, it proved an effective remedy and perhaps an inspiration for star Eagle Josh Kennedy in his own battle with the problem this pre-season

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/an-arch-remedy-aids-eagle-josh-kennedy/news-story/4c8e012052adb6bfed16cd5246200b20

Thanks BAMF. I thought it was him.

[Pates 9,537]

1 hour ago, BAMF said:

https://podiapaedia.org/wiki/orthopaedics/plantar-fasciitis/deliberate-rupture-of-plantar-fascia-to-treat-plantar-fasciitis/

Driven to despair by a partial tear in his plantar fascia -- the tissue that runs from the heel bone along the foot to attach under the arch -- Harvey famously jumped repeatedly off his kitchen table to fully rupture the band in order to allow it to heal and him to return to the field. While hardly scientific, it proved an effective remedy and perhaps an inspiration for star Eagle Josh Kennedy in his own battle with the problem this pre-season

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/an-arch-remedy-aids-eagle-josh-kennedy/news-story/4c8e012052adb6bfed16cd5246200b20

If that's what it takes I wouldn't be surprised to see Jack do it too! I definitely remember hearing about that. 

[picket fence 15,414]

If Tyson can't drive I'm fearing the worst! Double Parrrrrrrk Me !!

[DemonOX 8,541]

With all our injuries if we still make the finals it would be a massive team effort. 

 

[Mickey 4,188]

Not sure if anyone watches the Sunday footy show; but apparently Matthew Lloyd gave us a massive bake. Had a go at Hogan, Lewis and Bugg for their hits and Clarry for his social media. Also said we had achieved nothing and we're arrogant and getting ahead of ourselves.

Didn't see it myself but apparently Tony Jones stuck up for us and things got quite heated. 

[Bossdog 2,002]

We lost the 3rd q by 10 points     and the last by 5 pts

I don't think it was that bad for the side we had in

We were blown away in the 2nd

 

[Winners at last 4,796]

I don't care less what these commentators say, favourable or unfavourable. It counts for nothing.

The only thing that matters is onfield performance.

Edited July 2, 2017 by bingers

[FireInTheBennelly 4,026]

Regardless of the result I think we'll benefit from the experience on the big stage under Friday night lights. We'll definitely be better for it and almost certainly win our next one.

In 2022.

[bringbackthebiff 646]

6 hours ago, Mickey said:

Not sure if anyone watches the Sunday footy show; but apparently Matthew Lloyd gave us a massive bake. Had a go at Hogan, Lewis and Bugg for their hits and Clarry for his social media. Also said we had achieved nothing and we're arrogant and getting ahead of ourselves.

Didn't see it myself but apparently Tony Jones stuck up for us and things got quite heated. 

I look forward to his thoughts on Essendon

[HBDee 348]

End of a horror run in regards to turnarounds, happy to be 3-1 after those 4 games. Happy to take that given our injury toll over that time as well. 

If we can get 1-2 key players back per week over the next month, and not lose any more to injury, there is plenty to look forward to come the back end of the year!

Need to lock down Docherty, Gibbs and Simpson this week.

[DeeZone 7,868]

i didn't watch the replay for the first time this year, we need some energy coming into the side and some good luck with our run of injuries, I agree HBD we really need to pay very close attention to Docherty, Gibbs & Simpson this week. Go Dee's!!!