POST MATCH DISCUSSION - Round 7

[Jaded No More 59,675]

7 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Went down by 3 points to the best performing AFL team of all time

Their kicking was sublime

It hurt, but I'm not breaking stuff

 

Did you watch them last week?

They are done. Cooked. Not against Melbourne though. 

[wizardinoz 2,159]

To get beaten by that Hawk rabble was an embarrassment just like the Freo game. What a surprise we caved in to another crap team like them. Just typical for the MFC letting down their members again.

[beelzebub 22,700]

11 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

Viney laid 17 tackles. Every player had a tackle tally except one. JKH had zero tackles.

That is just unacceptable ....he was either injured or lazy.

He swapped pressure acts for scoreboard pressure

[SaberFang 7,141]

Just now, wizardinoz said:

To get beaten by that Hawk rabble was an embarrassment just like the Freo game. What a surprise we caved in to another crap team like them. Just typical for the MFC letting down their members again.

Yep, it's been a predictable result for years now. I'm frankly staggered we didn't give away the Carlton and Essendon wins as well.

[Ted Lasso 17,289]

3-4 

2x close losses to hawks and dockers, should have won both, 

dominated cats but didn't kick straight 

injuries saved the tigers 

we are much better than our record suggests but our consistency is the big issue. 

as frustrating as it is to lose, posters who don't see the improvement either don't know much about footy or they're letting their emotions talk. 

We are good enough to beat the crows if we play four quarters 

[The heart beats true 16,643]

15 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Yes but he maybe played a quarter

Stop potting blokes Saty. Have a little faith in the club will ya!

 

[Radar Detector 1,339]

1 minute ago, Abe said:

3-4 

2x close losses to hawks and dockers, should have won both, 

dominated cats but didn't kick straight 

injuries saved the tigers 

we are much better than our record suggests but our consistency is the big issue. 

as frustrating as it is to lose, posters who don't see the improvement either don't know much about footy or they're letting their emotions talk. 

We are good enough to beat the crows if we play four quarters 

I don't disagree but it wears thin after a while. We've been sold hope like a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow for years now.

[Wiseblood 24,636]

19 minutes ago, Nasher said:

I'm the same. I used to seethe about it for hours, but found with kids about, it was doing the family environment no good at all. Now I spend my post matches trying to rationalise it, and occasionally wind up agitated supporters who post irrational garbage. It's therapeutic! 

But when the match is on, it's all game face. Thought I was going to have a coronary today.

I'm in the same boat - my young daughter brings me back to reality pretty quick.  Once the game is done I'll give myself a few moments to be angry after a loss, then I have to do whatever it takes to move on.  She'll get it one day and I can be annoyed for longer, but not when she is jumping on my back seconds after the final siren.  She didn't stuff up so I can't stay angry for long.

[Radar Detector 1,339]

If I had the choice to end the North Korean military regime OR end the hawthorn football club.... you'd never see the brown and gold again.

[jumbo returns 6,618]

4 minutes ago, Jaded said:

Did you watch them last week?

They are done. Cooked. Not against Melbourne though. 

Sometimes, teams just give up

They're still a good team

No point discussing it - you're too emotional

[Ted Lasso 17,289]

1 minute ago, Radar Detector said:

I don't disagree but it wears thin after a while. We've been sold hope like a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow for years now.

It's all we have at the minute but still plenty of it 

[wizardinoz 2,159]

How many free kicks did Roughnut get & kick goals from? You can't touch him it seems. Meanwhile we get SFA. 

[Binmans PA 26,649]

19 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Leadership in the first half was useless

it happens far too often

that is why we lose...

Disagree. Viney tried to give his team the spark in that second with a great goal from the boundary and had 9 tackles at the 20 minute mark of the second term. Lewis tried hard and had a bit, but couldn't influence in the way he would have liked. Vince's dump kicks inside 50 to no one that came back with interest didn't help. And Jones... urgh.

[Sir Why You Little 35,310]

3 minutes ago, Abe said:

3-4 

2x close losses to hawks and dockers, should have won both, 

dominated cats but didn't kick straight 

injuries saved the tigers 

we are much better than our record suggests but our consistency is the big issue. 

as frustrating as it is to lose, posters who don't see the improvement either don't know much about footy or they're letting their emotions talk. 

We are good enough to beat the crows if we play four quarters 

But we don't do it. That is the reality

we are still fragile for portions of each game. 

The Whorks are cooked. But they beat the MFC

[Age 416]

I have been happy to give jkh some time but I have watched him live for the last few weeks and he just isn't remotely clean with the ball. Always fumbles, a small forward has to be clean but he is not. He has been given a fair go at it now and simply isn't good enough. Time to move on. 

[Ethan Tremblay 28,775]

I was against recruiting a big fish like Fyfe or Martin. But I'm starting to think a player like that is what we need. 

[Dockett 32 1,213]

3 minutes ago, Abe said:

3-4 

2x close losses to hawks and dockers, should have won both, 

dominated cats but didn't kick straight 

injuries saved the tigers 

we are much better than our record suggests but our consistency is the big issue. 

as frustrating as it is to lose, posters who don't see the improvement either don't know much about footy or they're letting their emotions talk. 

We are good enough to beat the crows if we play four quarters 

Keep hearing we are better than our record suggests.

We are 3-4 Abe and our record is what it is.

To play finals you simply have to have the strength of character to win close games.

[Ethan Tremblay 28,775]

2 minutes ago, wizardinoz said:

How many free kicks did Roughnut get & kick goals from? You can't touch him it seems. Meanwhile we get SFA. 

He definitely gets a good run from the umps. 

[bing181 8,355]

29 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

What do we do with our small forwards?  Outside of Garlett it just isn't working. 

Agree - but in spite of all the negatives, we still managed to kick 14 goals, which is a winnable score. I don't know that our forward line is all that dysfunctional.

Petracca was really down/off today, if he'd managed a couple of goals, totally different story. But the (forward) player I found myself wishing was out there was Vandenberg.

[Sir Why You Little 35,310]

2 minutes ago, A F said:

Disagree. Viney tried to give his team the spark in that second with a great goal from the boundary and had 9 tackles at the 20 minute mark of the second term. Lewis tried hard and had a bit, but couldn't influence in the way he would have liked. Vince's dump kicks inside 50 to no one that came back with interest didn't help. And Jones... urgh.

Where was anything in the 1st Q when a game is up for grabs?

whorethorn tore us apart

Jones was VFL standard when it mattered. 

Whorethorn are a shell of what they were and still ripped us apart...

[Demon Dynasty 16,266]

4 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

I highly doubt that, Rusty.  Even Saty was disappointed at half time.  He would be his only defender and even he couldn't do it.  No surer thing than him being dropped this week.

Who knows Wise. I wouldn't be surprised.

At most other decent clubs, inexperienced players have to storm their way in via the Magoos with consistent solid performances before knocking more proven/experienced players out. Even if that extra experience is only one season or so. At the MFC we seem to allow no name juniors to quietly tap on the door and let them just cruise in. It's a huge mistake IMO that we seem to repeat over and over and which continually sees us topping up with "inexperienced" kids most weeks. It's certainly not the only reason why we lose so often, but it certainly doesn't help either.

When you continually select more "unproven" (at AFL level) inexperienced kids, in preference to others who might still be early in their careers and developing but have shown they can play at times already (even if a little patchy as you would expect from rookies like Stretch, Harmes and Kent) then i think you get what you deserve.

In the end we chose a no name untried player over three players that have shown they can contribute and play reasonably good AFL footy sometimes. I simply don't get or trust this FD anymore. They have selected their way into far too many losses this year to have any credibility in my eyes.

[Deeoldfart 7,839]

22 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Cheers RTG, I appreciate that.  Trust me when I say that the Foxtel remote was slammed into the ground when Smith kicked that goal on the run.  I'm still dirty on this loss too, but I find it takes my mind off it to talk about other aspects of the game otherwise it would drive me mad!

I find that Demonland restores some sanity in my household.  Lock myself away with the PC and a nice red, and I can generally temper my disappointment, frustration and anger. If that doesn't work, uncorking second bottle of shiraz certainly does.

[Watts the matter 1,235]

3 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I was against recruiting a big fish like Fyfe or Martin. But I'm starting to think a player like that is what we need. 

Yes please. I find Roos' views on this strange (with his Buddy article) given he was always using it as an excuse (reason) last year. Also had to have a laugh when he tried to say we had great depth and grouped us with GWS.

 

[olisik 4,060]

JKH, Hannan and OMac are not AFL standard.

We are trying to brood players who are not ready and it is poor judgement by the Match Comittee

[DeeZee 6,905]

The first fifteen minutes of that last quarter we really had to go on with it but didn't as they were too clever out of the center.

Edited May 7, 2017 by DeeZee