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You've got your head in the sand if you think AFL players don't do drugs, including Melbourne players (jack watts for example). Murray just got caught

I disagree. He's hard as nails, fast, tackles, never fumbles, good kick inside 50, and kick goals. Plus he's under 24. A poor mans brent harvey for mine.

Agreed, his price may be an issue. However, if there is a will there is usually a way, i.e. beams & collingwood last year

pick 8 for papley, maybe a 3rd/4th rounder back?

Has there been any acknowledgement in the media that GWS want pick 3, or is this isolated to demonland? I feel like this scenario, if true, should be obvious to people in the business; but i have not heard anyone mention Green or a gws/melb pick swap.

what do we do if we get 6 and 11? i would happily give up one of these for Papley

I think we need class up front, of any size. As we have seen in previous years collingwood, richmond (2017) and west coast have been contending with different mixes of forward sizes. I think Harmes could be moved to play a large percentage up forward. Hes got good size, and would give us great ground level presence, plus loves a goal. This would free up a spot in the middle for Gus, whose form dipped when moved to a wing. I think we also need to pray that Fritsch, Trac and Weid take the next step. Only time will tell.

If he can get 23-27 touches a game, he is a great chance for AA ($51 on SB). One of only 3 AFL players rated as 'elite' in disposal efficiency in 2018. Potential emulate Laird, Simpson, a better Brent Guerra even? I've huge hopes for the kid

I would have liked melbourne to have negotiated harder, and then accept 5 & 23 in the last minute if that was the best offer. Anyway, it's hard to know what the circumstance were behind closed doors. Like i said, we did okay, a par. But we didn't dominate the trade period like essedon last year, or freo and hawthorn this year.

If we had publicly stated that we were trying to get May without selling hogan, or at least made no comment the narrative around the situation would have been very different. Would freo have bought it? Who knows. But surely worth a try imo. Winning a flag is that hard, we need to maximise every area of the club, including dealing hard at the trade table.

It is actually is exactly like poker. A list manger from another team refused to answer question saying "I can't answer that as it will give away our hand" on traderadio. I think we did just okay, and to go around saying we had an amazing trade period is wrong. Jesse hogan was a "straight flush" and we got 5 & 23 for him. Like it or not hogan is worth more than that

They were categorically two seperate trades. MFC did okay, Hawthorne and Fremantle did the best of all the clubs.

Mate, your acting like i'm up in arms. Like, i said it's not the end of the world, and i don't know why Melbourne played their hand like they did.. maybe there was mitigating circumstances. If your so affronted by opposing opinions i recommend leaving Demonland.

I can see the big picture, jesus. Just because we did well to get in May and KK doesn't mean we didn't let Hogan go cheap. In my opinion we showed our hand by admitting that we needed Hogan out to get May. Hogan was worth pick 5 & 14, and fremantle had those picks. We accepted pick 5 & 23, it's not the end of the world but it is unders.

Hogan was not a trade for May and KK. Hogan was worth more than pick 6 and 23, that part of the trade freo got the better deal. However, pick 6 for May and KK was a steal, and GC got unders.