Jack Watts

[Gator 17,260]

2 minutes ago, Nasher said:

The reverse is true also.  Others of us that have been posting here for 15 years are not surprised at all that you jumped on this rumour the minute it came to light.  We all have our biases, you're no different.

Why wouldn't I share it ?

I'd just heard it on radio and it validated a recent report from a fellow poster.

I also realise that not all posters live locally and would be likely to hear the discussion.  Listening online wouldn't be everyone's bag.

It's unusual to be criticised for sharing information.  

I also don't believe it will effect his chances of being selected in round one.  It's a message I suspect he's heard loud and clearly from a young coach who's universally loved by the playing group, but able to show he's hard when he needs to be.

For me it seems dense to think this whole story has been concocted.  But I don't wear a tinfoil hat.

 

[Wiseblood 24,637]

5 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Unlike trade rumours these types that go to air by a sports show invariably have reasonable elements of truth to them.

But as I've previously stated, if posters don't want to believe their darling has come back from the preseason in anything less than A-one condition they can.

Having posted hear for 15 years it's fair to say I have a healthy disregard for the views of most.

I don't think it's so much that I don't want to believe, more that I want to wait for more facts before I judge.  We can be too quick around these parts to hear a rumour and get stuck into a player without waiting for all the facts.  All we have is a rumour from one poster and Mitch Cleary saying he is 'hearing things' at AAMI park.  It's not exactly a lot to go on.

[FarNorthernD 5,861]

3 minutes ago, Nasher said:

The reverse is true also.  Others of us that have been posting here for 15 years are not surprised at all that you jumped on this rumour the minute it came to light.  We all have our biases, you're no different.

And if Watts has a 20 disposal first up game against the Saints, regularly hitting forwards on the chest whilst slotting a couple of goals himself I look forward that poster declaring he was, perhaps, mistaken. 

[Gator 17,260]

2 minutes ago, fndee said:

And if Watts has a 20 disposal first up game against the Saints, regularly hitting forwards on the chest whilst slotting a couple of goals himself I look forward that poster declaring he was, perhaps, mistaken. 

Google non-sequitur. 

[dazzledavey36 52,775]

Maybe Jack should stop partying up in board shorts and worry about backing up his 1 good season in 8 years. Signed a new contract last year too didn't he? Clearly got to comfortable with himself in the off season.

Edited February 20, 2017 by dazzledavey36

[daisycutter 29,336]

6 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Maybe Jack should stop partying up in board shorts and worry about backing up his 1 good season in 8 years. Signed a new contract last year too didn't he? Clearly got to comfortable with himself in the off season.

yeah dazzle, clear as mud

[monoccular 17,321]

So can we clarify please.

A commercial radio reporter says an unnamed source in the club said that JW came back NQR.

Any word from those who have been able to get to training please.

From what I remember reading there were no "issues", other than a crappy hairstyle. 

Please explain. 

[picket fence 16,689]

2 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

Was that a call in or confirmed from the club?  Again, not willing to judge if it's still just a rumour that's floating around.

The club website mentions that Watts, Hibberd and Jetta are all likely to be available for selection this week.  

Call me naive but until the club confirms it I'm still of the belief it's a rumour.

Yeah agree Wiseman! Look, I saw him training twice over summer and he looked in excellent shape and in fine form! 

All Chinese Whispers just to stir up sheeeit!

Maybe a small niggle or so! Nothing more

Move on!

 

Edited February 20, 2017 by picket fence

[DeeSpencer 24,762]

6 minutes ago, monoccular said:

So can we clarify please.

A commercial radio reporter says an unnamed source in the club said that JW came back NQR.

Any word from those who have been able to get to training please.

From what I remember reading there were no "issues", other than a crappy hairstyle. 

Please explain. 

I think I said this in another thread but anyway. I went to quite a few trainings pre xmas. Not may after. He's looked the good skill wise and they haven't done much pure fitness work so it's hard to tell where he's at that way. He was quite in the intraclub but not the only one and it was a short hit out.

Physically he looks pretty much the same. He's certainly not the strongest built nor the leanest. 

I had my own suspicions on the hair dye job at the time but it's really not useful to add more speculation to a thread full of it.

[Demons11 6,711]

This is rubbish!!! If he had come back in poor shape he would not have joined the main group straight away and all of the training reports I have read have said nothing along these lines 

[BrisbaneDemon 1,559]

Goodwin hates nothing more then Jason Akermanis and 90's boy bands.  When Watts rocked up to training with that hair do, Goody saw red.  Suspended until it grows out, the problem for Watts is, Goody hates frosted tips even more, he's in for a tough few months our Jackie boy.

[Demons11 6,711]

 

[sue 9,006]

2 minutes ago, BrisbaneDemon said:

Goodwin hates nothing more then Jason Akermanis and 90's boy bands.  When Watts rocked up to training with that hair do, Goody saw red.  Suspended until it grows out, the problem for Watts is, Goody hates frosted tips even more, he's in for a tough few months our Jackie boy.

crew cut would be a shorter cut than waiting for it to grow out

[monoccular 17,321]

6 minutes ago, BrisbaneDemon said:

Goodwin hates nothing more then Jason Akermanis and 90's boy bands.  When Watts rocked up to training with that hair do, Goody saw red.  Suspended until it grows out, the problem for Watts is, Goody hates frosted tips even more, he's in for a tough few months our Jackie boy.

Fact? Speculation? [censored] stirring?

[Akum 2,660]

The tabloid journo (a.k.a. "newsbreaker") tries to give the impression that the words are from Goody, although he doesn't say that straight out.

From the article:

Melbourne Demon Jack Watts position for Round 1 is in doubt says Mitch Cleary.

The Sportsday newsbreaker said coach Simon Goodwin has laid down the law at AAMI Park.

"He's returned to pre-season in poor shape, poor attitude is what I'm hearing down at AAMI Park" he said.

"He didn't play at Whitten Oval against the Bulldogs, it wasn't an injury concern, it wasn't a resting, he was simply not picked" he said

He says that Goody "has laid down the law" and then follows with the quotes - from "he said". It's meant to look like the quotes are from Goody (or at least from inside the club), but it's actually just quoting Mitch Cleary himself.

And where does this crack "news breaker" think Goody has laid down the law? AAMI Park!!! 

For the original poster of the rumour, I take back all my cynicism.

It was a brilliant bait to lay for the first eager young space cadet to report it as news and think they're making a name for themselves.

And just think about it for a second - if the rumour was true, who is going to leak it? Since the coming of PJ and Roos, this club just doesn't leak. Remember??

Frankly I don't know whether it's true or not. But just analysing it for a couple of minutes, it doesn't sound right. Despite it confirming a lot of prejudices.

[bing181 8,943]

1 hour ago, ProDee said:

I'd just heard it on radio and it validated a recent report from a fellow poster.

It would only be validation if it was confirmed by a different source. If it's just someone running with something they read here, that's not validation, it's repetition. 

To be continued ...

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

1 hour ago, Seraph said:

He's been right into the pies over summer, clearly. 

.....shite, is he talking to Collingwood?

[daisycutter 29,336]

6 minutes ago, Akum said:

The tabloid journo (a.k.a. "newsbreaker") tries to give the impression that the words are from Goody, although he doesn't say that straight out.

From the article:

Melbourne Demon Jack Watts position for Round 1 is in doubt says Mitch Cleary.

The Sportsday newsbreaker said coach Simon Goodwin has laid down the law at AAMI Park.

"He's returned to pre-season in poor shape, poor attitude is what I'm hearing down at AAMI Park" he said.

"He didn't play at Whitten Oval against the Bulldogs, it wasn't an injury concern, it wasn't a resting, he was simply not picked" he said

He says that Goody "has laid down the law" and then follows with the quotes - from "he said". It's meant to look like the quotes are from Goody (or at least from inside the club), but it's actually just quoting Mitch Cleary himself.

And where does this crack "news breaker" think Goody has laid down the law? AAMI Park!!! 

For the original poster of the rumour, I take back all my cynicism.

It was a brilliant bait to lay for the first eager young space cadet to report it as news and think they're making a name for themselves.

And just think about it for a second - if the rumour was true, who is going to leak it? Since the coming of PJ and Roos, this club just doesn't leak. Remember??

Frankly I don't know whether it's true or not. But just analysing it for a couple of minutes, it doesn't sound right. Despite it confirming a lot of prejudices.

but prodee believes it. he feels it in his waters. that should be good enough for everyone

[Pates 9,625]

I'm not rushing to any judgement, Jack has long been known as a player who works his butt off on and off the track, it sounds very strange that he would ruin it all after his best season so far. 

We have also had regular training reports on here and none have suggested he hasn't met the standards. The only thing I will say is that there has been no response from either Jack or the club. Perhaps preferring not to give any oxygen to a fabricated story. 

If Jack plays next week, dominates and is in good nick then I encourage all Dees fans to tweet Cleary for an apology. 

[John Crow Batty 8,780]

I don't know what's happening with Watt's but I am familiar with the post generous contract blues too many of our players suffer from.  I just hope he builds on last season stellar form but if he backslides I won't be surprised. 

Edited February 20, 2017 by america de cali

[BrisbaneDemon 1,559]

14 minutes ago, monoccular said:

Fact? Speculation? [censored] stirring?

Hoping Mitch Cleary runs with it...

[Gator 17,260]

Apparently, a sports journo would spread a rumour from a poster on a fan forum and pretend it's his own.  People actually believe this is more likely than him having a source connected to the club.

Apparently, training reports from boundary supporters are a legitimate source  of whether this report is true or not.

Apparently, if Watts plays well on Sunday, or in round one, there can't be any validity to this story, because the subsequent weeks/months wouldn't be enough for him to get his fitness to an acceptable level.

No wonder the Greens get votes.

Edited February 20, 2017 by ProDee

[Left Foot Snap 2,347]

11 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Apparently, a sports journo would post a rumour from a poster on a fan forum and pretend it's his own.  People actually believe this is more likely than him having a source connected to the club.

Apparently, training reports from boundary supporters are a legitimate source  of whether this report is true or not.

Apparently, if Watts plays well on Sunday, or in round one, there can't be any validity to this story, because the subsequent weeks/months wouldn't be enough for him to get his fitness to an acceptable level.

No wonder the Greens get votes.

Are you Mitch Cleary?

[binman 41,965]

1 hour ago, ProDee said:

Why wouldn't I share it ?

I'd just heard it on radio and it validated a recent report from a fellow poster.

I also realise that not all posters live locally and would be likely to hear the discussion.  Listening online wouldn't be everyone's bag.

It's unusual to be criticised for sharing information.  

I also don't believe it will effect his chances of being selected in round one.  It's a message I suspect he's heard loud and clearly from a young coach who's universally loved by the playing group, but able to show he's hard when he needs to be.

For me it seems dense to think this whole story has been concocted.  But I don't wear a tinfoil hat.

 

Fair enough to share the info pd. But I understand nasher's cynicism given instead of simply sharing the info in the same thread as the original rumour you chos to start a brand new one. And I can't remember the last thread you started.

Still, can't blame you. If you start a thread, you want people to engage in it (hello Bobby Clark) and nothing drives engagement on DL more than one having a shot at wattsy.

Anyway I hope the rumour is untrue. I do agree however that rumours about poor attitude have more credence than trade one given managers fuel the latter and there is no incentive to fuel the former (except malice perhaps)

[beelzebub 23,198]

Funniest topic for a long whiles.

Must be not quite footy season 

Ive a bridge for sale , anyone interested ?