OSCAR McDONALD

[picket fence 15,137]

2 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Dunn and Pedersen would be stunned. 

As we all are!! Astounding! Cant think of any valid reason why he is still in! 

Edited June 2, 2016 by picket fence

[old dee 22,851]

Just now, Redleg said:

Dunn and Pedersen would be stunned. 

Over the last month our selections have been mystifying.

We keep picking players who are struggling and over looking players who are in good form and have proven ability.

What the hell  is going on Mr Roos?

If I hear him say again we messed up selection I will throw up on the spot.

[dimmy 1,114]

Give the kid a beak !!!

[What 18,810]

7 minutes ago, dimmy said:

Give the kid a beak !!!

 

And he shall be known as Ostrich McDonald

Edited June 2, 2016 by Petraccattack

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,154]

It really couldn't be any simpler; the coaches are asking players to undertake certain roles and play to a particular structure.  

O'Mac, when he's in the team is doing what the coaches are asking him to do - so he stays.  Others, are not- so they go.

[dimmy 1,114]

I meant give him a break !!  Fair enough .

[picket fence 15,137]

4 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

It really couldn't be any simpler; the coaches are asking players to undertake certain roles and play to a particular structure.  

O'Mac, when he's in the team is doing what the coaches are asking him to do - so he stays.  Others, are not- so they go.

Ive got it! Running around like a headless chook gets you a game!!? Brilliant!

And I reckon I have made my piont enough so will now not comment any further!

Amen to that!

Edited June 2, 2016 by picket fence

[Dwight Schrute 16,751]

On 5/31/2016 at 8:39 AM, Clint Bizkit said:

I don't understand how other teams like Hawthorn can develop players like Sicily in their VFL team for years but we are in such a rush to develop Oscar McDonald in the AFL team when for the first time we don't need to.

 

Especially when you've got Lynden Dunn who i consider to be a very handy role player in defense, who could be in the side and offering more than Oscar does, i really don't understand playing young key position players when you don't have to, let him develop a body and work with the coaches and come in when he's ready.

[old dee 22,851]

3 hours ago, DemonOX said:

He should buy a lottery ticket me thinks!

Waste of money DO he has had all the luck he is getting this week.

[hoopla 418]

My concern about Oscar is that he doesn't have any obvious strengths to offset his obvious weaknesses

If he had good hands you'd wait for him to fill out. If his decision-making was exceptional you'd wait for him to get stronger hands. If he was an elite endurance runner ( like his brother) you'd wait for him to improve his acceleration. If he was a good judge of the ball in flight you'd wait for his body shape to change from that of a rag-doll to that of someone who's seen the inside of a gym.

If he turns out to be a respected 150 game AFL Defender - someone at the club really is a genius

The FD knows more than we do - we just have to have faith!

 

 

[John Crow Batty 8,255]

Reminds me of all  the criticism Jetta received. Look at him now. 

[jackaub 1,402]

Except Nev spent considerable time at Casey

[beelzebub 22,225]

34 minutes ago, america de cali said:

Reminds me of all  the criticism Jetta received. Look at him now. 

Not sure why. Totally different scenarios. Maybe we delist Oscar and rookie him. Is that the idea ?

[mo64 5,209]

55 minutes ago, america de cali said:

Reminds me of all  the criticism Jetta received. Look at him now. 

No comparisons whatsoever. Nev wasn't gifted games like O. Mac. He made it the hard way, including a delisting. No-one is saying delist O. Mac, but just let him develop at Casey until he's physically capable.

[Lucifers Hero 37,008]

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2016-06-03/defence-remains-a-work-in-progress

If anyone is still asking why OMc, Hunt and Wagner are getting games ahead of Dunn and Grimes here is the answer:

Rawlings said:  "...he had been pleased with the development of youngsters Jayden Hunt, Josh Wagner and Oscar McDonald...“They’ve earned their positions as well, and with young players you’re going to get some moments in games - and even games - which aren’t to the standard, but we’d like to see what they can do, rather than what they can’t do... “There are a lot of positives in what they are doing at the moment and I think the future at the footy club, in relation to the three young players, who have integrated into our backline this year has been really positive for the future.”

I don't think there is going to be any club explanation on why Dunn and Grimes aren't being selected.  The above extract tells anyone who wants to really read and understand it, the explanation. 

Posters may disagree with Rawlings comments or may be baffled by selections but there is no turning back to the 'old school' defenders who have not been able to adapt, for whatever reason, to the coaches requirements.

[hemingway 7,589]

On 30 May 2016 at 4:56 PM, Demon Disciple said:

Because, Roos has his favourites

As does every coach.

[P-man 13,168]

20 hours ago, dimmy said:

Give the kid a beak !!!

 

19 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

And he shall be known as Ostrich McDonald

lol

[hemingway 7,589]

4 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2016-06-03/defence-remains-a-work-in-progress

If anyone is still asking why OMc, Hunt and Wagner are getting games ahead of Dunn and Grimes here is the answer:

Rawlings said:  "...he had been pleased with the development of youngsters Jayden Hunt, Josh Wagner and Oscar McDonald...“They’ve earned their positions as well, and with young players you’re going to get some moments in games - and even games - which aren’t to the standard, but we’d like to see what they can do, rather than what they can’t do... “There are a lot of positives in what they are doing at the moment and I think the future at the footy club, in relation to the three young players, who have integrated into our backline this year has been really positive for the future.”

I don't think there is going to be any club explanation on why Dunn and Grimes aren't being selected.  The above extract tells anyone who wants to really read and understand it, the explanation. 

Posters may disagree with Rawlings comments or may be baffled by selections but there is no turning back to the 'old school' defenders who have not been able to adapt, for whatever reason, to the coaches requirements.

Thanks Lucifer some clarity at last. 

[old dee 22,851]

3 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2016-06-03/defence-remains-a-work-in-progress

If anyone is still asking why OMc, Hunt and Wagner are getting games ahead of Dunn and Grimes here is the answer:

Rawlings said:  "...he had been pleased with the development of youngsters Jayden Hunt, Josh Wagner and Oscar McDonald...“They’ve earned their positions as well, and with young players you’re going to get some moments in games - and even games - which aren’t to the standard, but we’d like to see what they can do, rather than what they can’t do... “There are a lot of positives in what they are doing at the moment and I think the future at the footy club, in relation to the three young players, who have integrated into our backline this year has been really positive for the future.”

I don't think there is going to be any club explanation on why Dunn and Grimes aren't being selected.  The above extract tells anyone who wants to really read and understand it, the explanation. 

Posters may disagree with Rawlings comments or may be baffled by selections but there is no turning back to the 'old school' defenders who have not been able to adapt, for whatever reason, to the coaches requirements.

Oh I get it LH the idea is not  to win games but to give kids games no matter how the perform.

Sounds like Bailey all over again.

 

[Wiseblood 24,636]

Will become a 6 time AA, 3 time premiership and 250 game player for the MFC.

Calling it early.

[Lucifers Hero 37,008]

3 minutes ago, old dee said:

Oh I get it LH the idea is not  to win games but to give kids games no matter how the perform.

Sounds like Bailey all over again.

Did we read the same article, od

Like you, I have a strong sense of dejavu to the Bailey years when it was: play the kids and play freewheeling, attacking football and bug.er defence.  So a fair amount of trepidation in my support of current coaches but I see the shape of our future defence. 

Nonetheless, if Salem, H and Matt Jones were fit I doubt we would have so many kids on the ground.  Hold my breath and trust!

[beelzebub 22,225]

16 minutes ago, old dee said:

Oh I get it LH the idea is not  to win games but to give kids games no matter how the perform.

Sounds like Bailey all over again.

 

The more it changes ....... 

[Jaded No More 57,820]

On 30 May 2016 at 8:17 AM, Ron Burgundy said:

I don't understand why Oscar Mac regularly gets selected before Dunn each week.

Because he is the future and I don't think Dunn is quite getting the whole zone defence thing.

Obviously to us supporters we don't know what is happening behind closed doors, but it seems to me that he isn't fitting in with this new defensive structure which is why he isn't getting regular games.

[Demon Dynasty 15,412]

9 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/20r6-03/defence-remains-a-work-in-p. rogress

If anyone is still asking why OMc, Hunt and Wagner are getting games ahead of Dunn and Grimes here is the answer:

Rawlings said:  "...he had been pleased with the development of youngsters Jayden Hunt, Josh Wagner and Oscar McDonald...“They’ve earned their positions as well, and with young players you’re going to get some moments in games - and even games - which aren’t to the standard, but we’d like to see what they can do, rather than what they can’t do... “There are a lot of positives in what they are doing at the moment and I think the future at the footy club, in relation to the three young players, who have integrated into our backline this year has been really positive for the future.”

I don't think there is going to be any club explanation on why Dunn and Grimes aren't being selected.  The above extract tells anyone who wants to really read and understand it, the explanation. 

Posters may disagree with Rawlings comments or may be baffled by selections but there is no turning back to the 'old school' defenders who have not been able to adapt, for whatever reason, to the coaches requirements.

Based on that view, Mr Rawlings (who I assume has the support of one Mr Roos with a big say on selecting the back line) may well cost us a place In the finals this year. I hope we don't to a Richmond! :-S

[Whispering_Jack 27,968]

6 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

Based on that view, Mr Rawlings (who I assume has the support of one Mr Roos with a big say on selecting the back line) may well cost us a place In the finals this year. I hope we don't to a Richmond! :-S

Would you be concerned if that cost us a possible place in the finals this year but made our prospects of becoming a regular finalist in years to come immeasurably better?