POST MATCH DISCUSSION - Round 11

[TRIGON 4,790]

Playing dry weather footy in the first half was costly.  

Very enthused by Jayden Hunt's game.

[Forest Demon 4,681]

2 minutes ago, dee-tox said:

Really worried about Garlett. Signs a new contract and goes missing.

Frost was good in the backline!

Harmes needs a spell. Ten touches at 20 percent efficiency is terrible.

If you win the contested footy and the clearances you have to convert. A waste otherwise.

Have a feeling Hunt will be something special. Looks a gun.

To be fair, Garlett has been poor for a month, or whenever it was he missed that game or two with an ankle injury.

Agreed on Hunt. His kicking looks a little rushed, like he is still going at full tilt, but other than that, he is a player.

[frankie_d 1,471]

7 minutes ago, Forest Demon said:

This was quite notable. To the point where it can't have been luck, but rather forwards smartly playing in front.

So true. We try to get over the back, they played in front in the wet...

[chook fowler 19,548]

Good effort overall. Garlett really disappointing 2 weeks in a row.

God I hate maggots.

[olisik 4,060]

2 minutes ago, Powell said:

Trengove's comeback is one of the feel good stories of the year, and I don't want to take away from that.

However he is as slow as ever, not just in leg speed but his general movements and disposal makes me feel like he is in slow motion some times. 

He doesn't get tackled though, he knows how to buy himself time. 

[Seraph 1,824]

3 minutes ago, Powell said:

Trengove's comeback is one of the feel good stories of the year, and I don't want to take away from that.

However he is as slow as ever, not just in leg speed but his general movements and disposal makes me feel like he is in slow motion some times. 

First game of AFL in 800 days and you're hanging it on him.

Your first paragraph is like saying "I'm not a racist, but". 

Disgraceful. 

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,939]

13 minutes ago, Jaded said:

They are the reigning premiers. They are a lot more experienced and they just know how to grind you down. 

I thought we played really well despite a really disappointing last quarter kicking just 1 point. We had a lot go against us today and some players who basically didn't turn up, namely Garlett. 

We also would have been a lot better off playing Pedersen who can take a mark, than butter hands Dawes, especially in this weather. Not sure if Pedersen is sick, but if he was fit it was a costly mistake to leave him out. 

A lot of positives today, I thought Frost was very good down back. Vince amazing, Tyson likewise. It was a strong effort and a much improved effort than the slop we've served up against them for 10 years. 

And lastly, I hope, although I know we are too weak to do so, that we give the AFL a please explain re: the umpires. The most one sided disgusting biased performance I've seen in a long time. What a joke. 

Pedo would've spudded it up against quality opposition.

[monoccular 17,573]

10 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

Hunt and Harmes must be dropped. VDB needs to do much more. Hogan has got to actually learn to tackle.

Hunt!!!  You must be kidding, surely.

VDB first game back after a long lay off was OK

Harmes is out of form - remind me, does Casey play this week or is there another bloody bye?

[JV7 2,354]

14 minutes ago, WAClark said:

Dawes was ok, worked hard and led up the ground all day. Needs a crack in the dry for us to find out where he's really at.

I've seen him on dry days and his marking is the same as it was today.. He can't mark the footy, simple. 

[John Crow Batty 8,879]

Hawthorn played the percentages better especially in the last quarter. Wasted less energy by moving the ball on at all costs. We should have done the same in the last quarter.

[McQueen 17,867]

Happy to see Kent bounce back this week. Was strong around the footy and did some nice team things.

[old55 23,687]

18 minutes ago, 3Dee said:

all those hawthorn free kick memes now make complete sense. 

Strangely the Hawks fans surrounding me were sooking about the umps all day

[Vineytime 854]

Our mids were great

our backs fought hard

our forwards were poor

and hawthorn were smarter

Edited June 4, 2016 by Vineytime

[dee-tox 4,835]

15 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

Hunt and Harmes must be dropped. VDB needs to do much more. Hogan has got to actually learn to tackle.

Drop Hunt? Bizarre.

[olisik 4,060]

Afterall this time I still can't believe people are trying to justify Dawes mark dropping. FMD.

Results in turnovers time and time again 

[titan_uranus 25,043]

We matched it with them for probably 2-3 quarters of today's game and for periods we out-worked them, out-pressured them, and looked good with ball in hand. But, though we might have had the three best on ground today (Tyson, Vince, Jones), we had probably the bottom 4 or 5 as well.

Ultimately, they were smarter and cleaner when it mattered most. The umpires weren't paying kicking in danger so they kept doing it all day and we were slow to react.

Harmes must be dropped. His turnovers across half forward kill us. Does not deserve a game next week.

OMac was marginally better this week but is still way, way off it. 

I didn't like Dawes' game but for a first game back it could have been worse. Wet weather football makes his role harder, too.

8 minutes ago, Powell said:

Trengove's comeback is one of the feel good stories of the year, and I don't want to take away from that.

However he is as slow as ever, not just in leg speed but his general movements and disposal makes me feel like he is in slow motion some times. 

Putrid post.

He wasn't even close to our worst player and there might be a good reason for him being a little off the pace of AFL football - 2.25 years out of the game might do that for you.

[Gorgoroth 13,019]

3 minutes ago, monoccular said:

Hunt!!!  You must be kidding, surely.

VDB first game back after a long lay off was OK

Harmes is out of form - remind me, does Casey play this week or is there another bloody bye?

Not that all, Hunt I believe will be a decent player, but he isn't doing enough at the moment.

I remember VDB as being manic, hardly saw it today, but as I said pre game, this is a game to blow the cobwebs out.

 

[Devil In Disguise 2,278]

Just watched Bernie's report on AFL.com & it's an open hand to the face. Umpire should have reported himself for being a f.wit. 

[71 Molloy 266]

2 minutes ago, wizardinoz said:

Just watched Bernie's report on AFL.com & it's an open hand to the face. Umpire should have reported himself for being a f.wit. 

Correct. Wouldn't have bruised a grape.

[Adam The God 30,411]

43 minutes ago, 93dee said:

I thought he played a good match. 

Great to have another forward line option. Competes hard. We're a better team with him in.

We're watching a different game then, mate. We desperately needed someone to take the pressure off our defenders a number of times coming out of defence. They kicked to Dawes and even when he had the clear height advantage a number of times he never looked like marking it. He took one good mark at half forward when it was kicked perfectly to his advantage.

His failure to get to contests and provide an option down the line time and again is a massive issue. He'd be at those contests from kick outs, because everyone else is stationery.

I'm not saying he has to be the greatest player, but he needs to be able to take the pressure off his team mates every now and then. And when players kick to him one on one in the forwardline against an undersized opponent, he needs to be able to mark it occasionally. Never looked like it.

Edited June 4, 2016 by AdamFarr

[dl4e 5,851]

I dunno bout you blokes but I was disgusted at the loss today. How many years are we going to go through with this. I know I should be patient but today really got to me.

[titan_uranus 25,043]

3 minutes ago, wizardinoz said:

Just watched Bernie's report on AFL.com & it's an open hand to the face. Umpire should have reported himself for being a f.wit. 

Isaac Smith is a softc*ck and a fl*g. Umpire Pannell too.

However, Vince may well be in trouble for one of his errant elbows to Mitchell's head in the tackle right before that.

[Deestar9 1,649]

Just over 12 months ago we lost to the Hawks by 105 pts .......they are not as good but we are so much better .....yes there were stupid mistakes but they never gave up & will only get better .....our backline had 2 experienced players in it & 3 very inexperienced and we only lost by 3 & not all of their goals came from backline errors ....give them a break ....very unfair criticism of Dawes ..... it wasn't a day for big forwards but he always make a contest !!

[olisik 4,060]

1 minute ago, dl4e said:

I dunno bout you blokes but I was disgusted at the loss today. How many years are we going to go through with this. I know I should be patient but today really got to me.

Losing culture. We are starting to lose a few in a row now. Not good

[Return to Glory 8,448]

3 minutes ago, dl4e said:

I dunno bout you blokes but I was disgusted at the loss today. How many years are we going to go through with this. I know I should be patient but today really got to me.

Just today? Not 186, the tanking, the Neeld years, the Scully defection, Stynesy going over the mark or the recent Bomber loss?