MFC injury list - 2016

[Nasher 33,617]

Haven't seen anything published; this is derived from Misson's injury report: http://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/2016-03-30/rd-2-david-misson-injury-report.

Apparently McDonald and King had very similar injuries, no structural damage and well on the way to recovery.  Both expected to play this weekend.  

As expected, Trengove and Petracca expected to play in the VFL this weekend with varying game time.  

No mention of H or Brayshaw which I take to mean fully available and ready to go.

The full list:
Oscar McDonald - ankle - test
Max King - ankle - test
Chris Dawes - calf - 3 weeks
Jake Spencer - foot - 4-6 weeks

 

[FarNorthernD 5,861]

Great list aside from Spencer. We have pretty much no ruck back up. Scary.

Can someone please explain how the Brent Harvey/Jake Spencer thing of fully "popping" the plantar fasciitis leads to a reduced rehab time.

[DeeSpencer 26,480]

9 minutes ago, fndee said:

Great list aside from Spencer. We have pretty much no ruck back up. Scary.

Can someone please explain how the Brent Harvey/Jake Spencer thing of fully "popping" the plantar fasciitis leads to a reduced rehab time.

I don't know the specifics but it seems to be that a natural full tear seems to heal faster than surgically cutting it. Might be that there's less scar tissue as well as not having to worry about infection and other risks of surgery. 

Once it's fully torn (surgically or naturally) it can start to properly heal. Before then if you can't get the required rest and rehab it's increasingly sore which is why Spencer was heading for surgery and Robert Harvey jumped from his dining room table as the legend has it.

Edited March 30, 2016 by DeeSpencer

[DeeSpencer 26,480]

Really happy that Oscar has escaped major injury. Might give the selectors something to think about for this week but just as importantly he should be able to get on with his development.

Same goes for Max King. He has the most potential as a 2nd ruck/forward option on our list so I really want to hear reports of his progress at Casey. 

[Deeoldfart 8,164]

Interesting how Spencer was on the road to recovery a week ago after his foot complaint 'self repaired' (about to start running and 4 weeks away from resuming) but is now the dreaded 4 to 6 weeks away from resuming.  Has there been some sort of setback?

[spirit of norm smith 16,651]

1 hour ago, Deeoldfart said:

Interesting how Spencer was on the road to recovery a week ago after his foot complaint 'self repaired' (about to start running and 4 weeks away from resuming) but is now the dreaded 4 to 6 weeks away from resuming.  Has there been some sort of setback?

Yes very disappointing. Spencer is crucial as our only backup to big Maxy.  It is now our main depth issue. 4-6 weeks means 8-10 in total and Spencer will have no pre season base. 

[nutbean 8,838]

10 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Really happy that Oscar has escaped major injury. Might give the selectors something to think about for this week but just as importantly he should be able to get on with his development.

 

I do not write players off - especially youngun's like Oscar - I would prefer to say that I don't think he is ready yet. Would prefer to see some more game time at Casey for him. 

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

2 minutes ago, nutbean said:

I do not write players off - especially youngun's like Oscar - I would prefer to say that I don't think he is ready yet. Would prefer to see some more game time at Casey for him. 

He could be a gun in two years, he just clearly isn't ready yet and needs an extended time at Casey.

[DemonDave 1,099]

So in the doomsday scenario that Max Gawn got injured, what would the selectors do? Would they play Frost/Pedo rotating as ruckmen, or would

they take the gamble on one of the Kings, despite them being very very raw? I see the Hawks debuted a ruckman on Monday, didnt notice him get

any touches though. Ruckman clearly take a long time to develop.

[M_9 2,173]

On a related note, given that Max King is a rookie, are we currently able to promote two rookies (one for Milkshake plus a 'start of season rookie')?

[Pates 9,687]

37 minutes ago, DemonDave said:

So in the doomsday scenario that Max Gawn got injured, what would the selectors do? Would they play Frost/Pedo rotating as ruckmen, or would

they take the gamble on one of the Kings, despite them being very very raw? I see the Hawks debuted a ruckman on Monday, didnt notice him get

any touches though. Ruckman clearly take a long time to develop.

I feel sick thinking about it but I would imagine they would start with the rotating Frost/Pedo combo, neither of the Kings are physically ready from what I have heard. 

I actually wanted us to hang on to Jamar as a player/coach sort of role, just in case Gawn and Spencer went down. I understand why they didn't go with that as it has the potential to stunt the development of the younger ones but if Gawn goes down we will be in a lot of trouble in the ruck division. 

[rjay 25,347]

56 minutes ago, DemonDave said:

So in the doomsday scenario that Max Gawn got injured, what would the selectors do? Would they play Frost/Pedo rotating as ruckmen, or would

they take the gamble on one of the Kings, despite them being very very raw? I see the Hawks debuted a ruckman on Monday, didnt notice him get

any touches though. Ruckman clearly take a long time to develop.

Looked like he got a touch up from Selwood that he wasn't too happy about though...

[jayceebee31 768]

2 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

He could be a gun in two years, he just clearly isn't ready yet and needs an extended time at Casey.

And about 15 Kelsey of muscle at least 

[DistrACTION Jackson 10,409]

8 minutes ago, Pates said:

I feel sick thinking about it but I would imagine they would start with the rotating Frost/Pedo combo, neither of the Kings are physically ready from what I have heard. 

I actually wanted us to hang on to Jamar as a player/coach sort of role, just in case Gawn and Spencer went down. I understand why they didn't go with that as it has the potential to stunt the development of the younger ones but if Gawn goes down we will be in a lot of trouble in the ruck division. 

I agree. I was amazed we didn't try and pick up another back up ruckman during the off season. Daniel Currie, Jonathan Giles or even an experienced bloke in the VFL.

I would imagine they must have their eye on someone for this off season as we just can't risk going into more seasons with Gawn, Spencer and the two Kings!

[jayceebee31 768]

2 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

He could be a gun in two years, he just clearly isn't ready yet and needs an extended time at Casey.

Agree....needs to gain 15/20 kgs and at least 30 games before we see any major development.If any weakness currently on list is- another tall quality experienced tall back.

[ManDee 7,346]

Should have kept Fitzpatrick.

 

PS:- No training this week?

[jnrmac 20,304]

2 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

He could be a gun in two years, he just clearly isn't ready yet and needs an extended time at Casey.

I think he meant 'young-un' as opposed to 'young gun'.....

Edited March 31, 2016 by jnrmac

[Coq au vin 755]

On 23 March 2016 at 9:28 AM, nutbean said:

because he has been cleared to play - which will be on GF....

GF? Grand final? Girlfriend? 

[dee-luded 2,959]

On 23/03/2016 at 6:07 PM, Bitter but optimistic said:

Calf injuries are lingering and recurring bastards - particularly as you get older.

do you have calves Bbo. my imagination cannot venture down that far. 

 

by the way, Here just in case >

https://www.organicfacts.net/health-benefits/herbs-and-spices/stinging-nettle.html

http://www.theresagrisanti.com/stinging-nettle-natures-supplement.html

http://www.herbwisdom.com/herb-nettle.html

It is also used in many libido enhancer products on the shelves of chemists & health shops for its circulatory benefits.  so helps with repair of muscle tissue & skin ailments allowing better circulation to extremities & poor blood supply areas.

 

[dee-luded 2,959]

13 hours ago, Nasher said:

Haven't seen anything published; this is derived from Misson's injury report: http://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/2016-03-30/rd-2-david-misson-injury-report.

Apparently McDonald and King had very similar injuries, no structural damage and well on the way to recovery.  Both expected to play this weekend.  

As expected, Trengove and Petracca expected to play in the VFL this weekend with varying game time.  

No mention of H or Brayshaw which I take to mean fully available and ready to go.

The full list:
Oscar McDonald - ankle - test
Max King - ankle - test
Chris Dawes - calf - 3 weeks
Jake Spencer - foot - 4-6 weeks

 

 

13 hours ago, fndee said:

Great list aside from Spencer. We have pretty much no ruck back up. Scary.

Can someone please explain how the Brent Harvey/Jake Spencer thing of fully "popping" the plantar fasciitis leads to a reduced rehab time.

not sure fnd.   Now that Spencer has torn the plantar fascia,  I think he might be back sooner, now its completely gone.  Once the soreness goes?  I'd be surprised if he's still off in 5 weeks.

[Demon Jack 7,155]

Jake Spencer may be the Sam Frost of this season. 4 to 6 weeks with no end in sight

[Nasher 33,617]

Misson's comment was that Spencer has just started working "outside", I interpreted that as progressing and that it's more about incremental work load and condition steps now rather than injury recovery per se.

It certainly didn't sound rubbery like it did with Frost last year. I guess we'll know soon enough! 

[DubDee 26,390]

49 minutes ago, ManDee said:

Should have kept Fitzpatrick.

 

PS:- No training this week?

yeah i really miss him on our injury list

not a first ruck either in my opinion

[ManDee 7,346]

Just now, DubDee said:

yeah i really miss him on our injury list

not a first ruck either in my opinion

Very good. 

Hawthorn think he is ok as a forward/2nd ruck - Oh hang on that's exactly what we need. Who do we have? Frost/Pederson/Orient are? 

[daisycutter 29,914]

1 minute ago, ManDee said:

Very good. 

Hawthorn think he is ok as a forward/2nd ruck - Oh hang on that's exactly what we need. Who do we have? Frost/Pederson/Orient are? 

actually what we need is a 1st ruck in reserve. different from a pinch-hit 2nd ruck resting somewhere (which is also need)

Edited March 31, 2016 by daisycutter