Post Match Discussion - Round 18

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

Agree, this is why we need to take a punt on Malceski, to give us a couple of years to develop our own with the requisite skills and football nouse.

You have my vote.

How could he possibly make us worse?

Provided he isn't delivered to us as another NQR (inherent but well disguised career debilitating/ending injury ) this is exactly the player we need down back to assist and educate the like of TMc, Garland,Jetta and Watts (assuming he eventually ends up playing most of his footy there...if he makes it). Allows us to move Howe up forward and would also deliver the ball with more accuracy to Hogan/Howe/JKH/Other?

Most importantly he can break lines, switch more quickly/accurately by foot and occasionaly drifts forward for the odd mark and goal. Allows us to move Howe up forward and would also deliver the ball with more accuracy to Hogan/Howe etc.

I would take him in a heart beat and trade Grimes/Terlich/Frawley out for him and one other classy/pacey half back who can hit a target and break lines. Although we might have one of our own in the making atm in Jetta (and possibly Kent down the track) so the 2nd might not be totally crucial but i'd still like to see it. Especially if we keep losing more of the center clearance work than we win in the next season or 2 as most of our forward 50 entries will need to come off rebounds from HB if we are to win more than a handfull of matches.

Edited July 20, 2014 by Rusty Nails

[Watts Jurrah Dunn? 735]

Like most I am fed up with Grimes. I just can't wait for Grimes, Bail and McKenzie to be weeded out like Terlich and Jones have been.

Terrible miss by Kent on his preferred left on the edge of the goalsquare.

Jordie McKenzie poster from 30m out directly in front was park football stuff.

Howe's kick in to a flat footed Garland with 3 port players within 20m was just terrible, as was Dawes' inside 50 which could have been raffled by the 2 port players when it had to hug the boundary.

[old dee 23,920]

Provided he isn't delivered to us as another NQR (inherent but well disguised career debilitating/ending injury ) this is exactly the player we need down back to assist and educate the like of TMc, Garland,Jetta and Watts (assuming he eventually ends up playing most of his footy there...if he makes it). Allows us to move Howe up forward and would also deliver the ball with more accuracy to Hogan/Howe/JKH/Other?

Most importantly he can break lines, switch more quickly/accurately by foot and occasionaly drifts forward for the odd mark and goal. Allows us to move Howe up forward and would also deliver the ball with more accuracy to Hogan/Howe etc.

I would take him in a heart beat and trade Grimes/Terlich/Frawley out for him and one other classy/pacey half back who can hit a target and break lines. Although we might have one of our own in the making atm in Jetta (and possibly Kent down the track) so the 2nd might not be totally crucial but i'd still like to see it. Especially if we keep losing more of the center clearance work than we win in the next season or 2 as most of our forward 50 entries will need to come off rebounds from HB if we are to win more than a handfull of matches.

Confident he is a free agent RN

Don't think we have to trade anything for him.

[Nasher 33,617]

Can't take a mark overhead.

I hear that's kinda crucial for a key forward

I thought Dawes marked well today when he only had one opponent. Looked a lot better with his hands than he has in the last few weeks.

Dawes should benefit immensely from Hogan being in the side. Not having two players on him most of the time should help to improve his form a bit.

[Bitter but optimistic 22,288]

I thought Dawes marked well today when he only had one opponent. Looked a lot better with his hands than he has in the last few weeks.

Dawes should benefit immensely from Hogan being in the side. Not having two players on him most of the time should help to improve his form a bit.

I am agreeing with you again Gnash! Dawes is our only true forward. As such he is targeted and draws 2 or even three defenders. He is swamped. Another key forward would free him up. The amazing thing though, is that our current other "forwards" seem unable to benefit from this situation.

Another factor is how we bring the ball in of course. (or if we bring it in!)

[Deez 298]

I was happy with tapscotts attack on the ball, particularly the first quarter, kicked his long goal and cleaned up someone.

it was great to see.

I like that blease was able to put on the afterburners and its great that he can kick those running goals from fifty out, but he had options.

He had a player free to his left that would have had a to less pressure to take the shot and could have gotten in closer, and he had a one on one down close to the goal square. So I'm not convinced his goal was the best option, he's just lucky it came off.

play the pair for the rest of the season to assess value.

[Axis of Bob 11,875]

I thought Dawes marked well today when he only had one opponent. Looked a lot better with his hands than he has in the last few weeks.

Dawes should benefit immensely from Hogan being in the side. Not having two players on him most of the time should help to improve his form a bit.

Dawes is a hard working forward who is good one on one. He isn't the pea, but he's a lion hearted player who will push up to the ball time after time to provide a target when there isn't anything else on.

As a result, most of Dawes' good work goes unnoticed, because making a contest doesn't get a stat or glory.

Once you put Hogan in there, Dawes will start to get more one on one opportunities.

[Ethan Tremblay 31,168]

Take a punt next game, bring in Gergiou for Grimes.

Edited July 20, 2014 by Ethan Tremblay

[Axis of Bob 11,875]

Take a punt next game, bring in Gergiou for Grimes.

Why? To cover Brisbane's plethora of tall forwards?

Maybe we want to play 3 key defenders on their solitary key forward .... Daniel Merrett.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,368]

A loss is a loss is a loss.

When the wash up is completed we were just not good enough.

We have blamed the umpires every week.

They are not the reason we are third last.

The umpires have been abominable in general all year but you're right they didn't cost us the game. Our ridiculous decision-making / lack of composure lost us the game - but to come away with a 3 point win and a 3 point loss from 2 games in SA when we've averaged 60-80 point losses there for the past decade shows significant improvement.

[DemonOX 8,817]

Loved how Tappy flattened a port player in the first quarter (I think) and he was pretty decent for the game.

Also loved when Robbie Gray (an ahole and I can't stand the wenker) was tackled and he "face planted" into the turf. Pity it didn't knock the numb nut out but it provided some enjoyment.

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

Blease is very much in our best 22 if he wants and if Roosy allows.

[Lil_red_fire_engine 11,262]

Blease is very much in our best 22 if he wants and if Roosy allows.

Why?

[Bobby McKenzie 2,397]

Like most I am fed up with Grimes. I just can't wait for Grimes, Bail and McKenzie to be weeded out like Terlich and Jones have been.

Terrible miss by Kent on his preferred left on the edge of the goalsquare.

Jordie McKenzie poster from 30m out directly in front was park football stuff.

Howe's kick in to a flat footed Garland with 3 port players within 20m was just terrible, as was Dawes' inside 50 which could have been raffled by the 2 port players when it had to hug the boundary.

Tough call on Bail I reckon. He was great today.

[1964nowMORE 492]

Before watching today's game with the kids I noted the "line" was 48.5 pts, and thought we were a good chance to get inside that, but not a lot more. Perhaps Port had been down recently, but I'm also pretty sure our form of recent times was awful. I'm far more encouraged by a 3 pt loss on the road than a goal loss in Melbourne to the bulldogs.

We all know we still have some holes in the team, some outside speed, a great kick or two down back and another Tyson. Given how badly we've tailed off in recent years late in the season I'm now wanting to see five strong performances coming home. Win as many as possible Dees, I'd really like three more.

There was a lot to like, and as always some shocking skill errors, but we are kidding ourselves if we didn't think 50+ when five goals down early. The boys are starting to get some ticker, can't wait to see it combined with skill, and then confidence. Geelong should never have won last night in the end, but they did because of belief in one another, and once again they had bartel! sElwood, taylor, Johnson and co.

A bright five weeks ahead Dees, keep at it.

[DemonOX 8,817]

A loss is a loss is a loss.

When the wash up is completed we were just not good enough.

We have blamed the umpires every week.

They are not the reason we are third last.

They aren't the reason we r third last old dee but FMD they are a bunch of dumb arzes and definitely haven't helped.

[Coq au vin 755]

Frawley's decision-making for the past three yeas has been worse than an 82yo grandma's. He is slow, stupid and thinks too

highly of himself. Get rid of him!!!

[Bobby McKenzie 2,397]

I was happy with tapscotts attack on the ball, particularly the first quarter, kicked his long goal and cleaned up someone.

it was great to see.

I like that blease was able to put on the afterburners and its great that he can kick those running goals from fifty out, but he had options.

He had a player free to his left that would have had a to less pressure to take the shot and could have gotten in closer, and he had a one on one down close to the goal square. So I'm not convinced his goal was the best option, he's just lucky it came off.

play the pair for the rest of the season to assess value.

Seeing Blease running with two bounces towards the goal did remind me so much of the great Bluey Adams. He should be persevered with for the rest of the season. We need more speed and Sam certainly has it. Considering he broke his leg it's a wonder he didn't lose some of his natural speed.

[Coq au vin 755]

Toda was a great effort overall against a top four team. Way better than last week's effort. Perhaps the guys were affected by the week before in the heat of Darwin. There were many skill errors and some silly decisions that in the end cost the game. But there's definite progress. Except for Grimes and Frawley.

[picket fence 17,741]

You owe us one Chris Dawes, stupid kick to no one, cost us the game. Grimes's kick wasn't typical Grimes

Nup a worse than normal Grimes disposal!

[DemonOX 8,817]

So... What is the future for Blease and Tappscott?

They both need to be in the team for a little longer before making that call I would think.

[Bang Na Demon 168]

Not sure why all the hand wringing over the free against Watts at the end of the 3rd. He spoilt the ball cleanly but unfortunately collected Wingard in the face on the follow through. A free every day of the week

Edited July 20, 2014 by xiss

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

Why?

Mate.

[ijbfossil 77]

My first post.

Just heartbreaking yet again - so many in the last 50 years.

Better to be that close than pumped by heaps and some little positive signs e.g. Jetta better than I thought.

Don't like the knocking of Grimes - still a good player - I know his disposal is not great at times.Don't like bagging umps - if a team is good enough it wins BUT the Bail decision against the Doggies and today's crazy one against Watts (great spoil) right on 3/4 time very hard to cop.

fossil

[Coq au vin 755]

Not sure why all the hand wringing over the free against Watts at the end of the 3rd. He spoilt the ball cleanly but unfortunately collected Wingard in the face on the follow through. A free every day of the week

looked like the ball hit his face.