Jesse Hogan WOW!

[darkhorse72 1,916]

W.A do not study year 12...?

That explains a lot..Perth is a strange place!!

Yes, but you finish year 12 the year you turn 17 ... though thats changing slightly with the new starting age introduced 11 years ago.

So he should be free to be a full-time afl player with what ever study the club requests of him.

[red and blue forever 1,015]

Yes, quite sure. Does your birthday happen to be in November, December or January by any chance? If so, that's why you finished school at 17. If you'd attended school in WA, you would have finished school the year before when you were 16.

Edit: Anyone in WA, please feel free to make me look really silly and correct me :-)

janurary.. and if i was still 18, I would be inelegiable for footy this year,

[autocol 448]

When I was graduating year 12 (in Victoria), I was 18 in the September of my graduating year. However, plenty of friends who also graduated that year did not turn 18 until May or June the following year. People running O-Camps at universities in Victoria have to be careful with their legal standpoint because so many of their attendees can be 17. I don't know where the idea that all Victorian year 12 graduates are 18 came from, but it's false.

Also (and probably completely off topic), I dated a ludicrously intelligent girl last year (she scored 99.95% ENTER), and she was enrolled at Melbourne Uni as a 15 year old! She was that smart that they just let her skip two years of school completely (and her birthday is in late May, so she'd have graduated as a 17 year old even if she hadn't been accelerated).

Anyway, my understanding is that the parents of those born between January and June can elect to put their child in either year - so they might turn 18 early in their graduating year, or not until the year after they graduate. As a result, some kids are more than 12 months older than other kids in the same year level.

Edited February 27, 2013 by autocol

[Pennant St Dee 13,171]

Yes, quite sure. Does your birthday happen to be in November, December or January by any chance? If so, that's why you finished school at 17. If you'd attended school in WA, you would have finished school the year before when you were 16.

Edit: Anyone in WA, please feel free to make me look really silly and correct me :-)

Not sure how it works in the Eastern states but the age for schooling works from July 1st to June 30th. Easier for me to explain is my two boys are seperated b 15 months in birth, however the oldest bo was born in April and the younger brother was born in July.

The older boy started Grade 1 in 2012 and is now in year 2, while his brother is in Pre-Primary so if unlike his father the boys finish school the older by will be 17 when he finishes as will half of his class who were born in January to June 2006, while the other half born in July to December 2005 will be 18. So my younger boy will be 17 when he commences his last year in school but turn 18 in July and be that age when he finishes.

Now when reading back through it, I am seem to be confused but hope others understand

[Red and Bluebeard 2,084]

When I was graduating year 12 (in Victoria), I was 18 in the September of my graduating year. However, plenty of friends who also graduated that year did not turn 18 until May or June the following year. People running O-Camps at universities in Victoria have to be careful with their legal standpoint because so many of their attendees can be 17. I don't know where the idea that all Victorian year 12 graduates are 18 came from, but it's false.

Also (and probably completely off topic), I dated a ludicrously intelligent girl last year (she scored 99.95% ENTER), and she was enrolled at Melbourne Uni as a 15 year old! She was that smart that they just let her skip two years of school completely (and her birthday is in late May, so she'd have graduated as a 17 year old even if she hadn't been accelerated).

Anyway, my understanding is that the parents of those born between January and June can elect to put their child in either year - so they might turn 18 early in their graduating year, or not until the year after they graduate. As a result, some kids are more than 12 months older than other kids in the same year level.

It is not as simple as that, in my experience, at least in Victoria. My daughter, who was born in May, missed out on the cut-off date by a few weeks; if she had been born on or before April 30th, she could have started school in the year she turned 5. However, she was just the other side of the line, and had to wait until she was almost 6.

I think what you might be getting at is that even if your child is eligible, it is possible to delay them starting for a year. In my experience, an increasing number of parents are doing this, reasoning that if the child is a little bit older and more mature, then they will generally do better at school, particularly towards the end of secondary school. As a result, it is not rare to a P-plated vehicle driving into the school grounds.

My kids are now all well past primary-entry age, so I am not up to date any more, but I thought I heard that the April 30th date had been moved earlier again, to the end of February. This would mean that a child born after March 1st could not start school in the year that they turn 5, which will have the effect of pushing up the average entry age.

However, you are right on the money about some kids being much older than others; when mine go to a birthday party, I make sure I ask exactly how old the birthday kid will be!

Edited February 27, 2013 by Red and Bluebeard

[Dr. Gonzo 24,207]

[censored] me i thought this was a footy forum???

[hardtack 10,537]

[censored] me i thought this was a footy forum???

Ageist :-)

[Sir Why You Little 37,030]

Yes it does, it explains it clearly. Just because you can't join the dots doesn't mean that it isn't an explanation. Honestly, your inability to take Logic Point A and Logic Point B, and mix them together to get a reasoned argument still amazes me after 8 years.

my inability to work out logic!!!

Whatever tweaks your beak.

I don't always agree with you either...

[Mallee Bull 97]

As much as it would be great to see Hoges running around in the seniors this year, I just don't see the need in rushing him. We aren't pushing for finals, so why not let him develop his body strength and conditioning whilst playing at Casey? Everyone could see that Majak Daw had talent, but north have let him develop his game and his body in the VFL and he is now ready to explode onto the scene now. We should have learnt our lesson with what happened to Watts. Sure Hoges appears to be ready and certainly has more agro than Watts did, but he just turned 18, he is still very much a kid. I just don't see the need to risk exposing him prematurely.

Just as I wouldn't want Clark or Trengove rushed back into the side for round 1.

2013 will hopefully be a better year than last, but it's 2014 when I think we will start to seriously entertain the idea of pushing for finals. A fit Clark, Dawes and a raring to go Hogan next summer is what I want to see.

[s-t-i-n-g-a 439]

Has no relevance to this situation.

I'll see that when Mark Neeld is calling for Hogan to play.

[Fitz Fitzpatrick 886]

i dont understand everyones rush for him to play this year. we were all happy to take him in the draft knowing he wouldnt play this year so whats the rush? all because of a good effort in one NAB cup game? seriously? let the guy develop, then we'll see what hes like next year. its only 1 year. and 1 game doesnt make someone a star. lets comment on him after 50 games. then we can start rating him. until then hes an untried 18 yr old kid.

[Gorgoroth 12,945]

So if he struggles this week will everyone who thinks he should play then retract their calls?

Just imagine if he dominates tho..........

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

I think it's unlikely we would've been able to secure Hogan with pick 3, Toumpas with pick 4, Dawes and Barry with pick whatever (13/20) and Viney with pick 27, if Hogan was eligible to play this year.

In short, the whole deal we structured was probably based, at least in part, on Hogan not playing this year.

This being the case, particularly given the spectre of cheating that seems (wholly unfairly) to hang over this club, I think we should probably just accept what we willingly and knowingly signed up to a few months back.

That said, I love the look of the bloke and wholly accept Ben Hur's view that this guy is going to be a superstar, the likes of which this club has not seen for decades.

[45HG 1,539]

In Vic, cherubs must turn 5 before April 30 of the year they do prep to be eligible for school.

Making the youngest finishers of Year 12 17 and 8 months.

[Dinosaur Rover 197]

erm, are you sure on that, thought schooling cut of was as long as it is before the start of the school year.

I finished yr 12 at 17 (in Vic) and wasn't skipped ahead or anything, nor was I alone in being a 17yr old graduee,

show off! You are on the wrong site.

[Arrow 1,257]

When I was graduating year 12 (in Victoria), I was 18 in the September of my graduating year. However, plenty of friends who also graduated that year did not turn 18 until May or June the following year. People running O-Camps at universities in Victoria have to be careful with their legal standpoint because so many of their attendees can be 17. I don't know where the idea that all Victorian year 12 graduates are 18 came from, but it's false.

Also (and probably completely off topic), I dated a ludicrously intelligent girl last year (she scored 99.95% ENTER), and she was enrolled at Melbourne Uni as a 15 year old! She was that smart that they just let her skip two years of school completely (and her birthday is in late May, so she'd have graduated as a 17 year old even if she hadn't been accelerated).

Anyway, my understanding is that the parents of those born between January and June can elect to put their child in either year - so they might turn 18 early in their graduating year, or not until the year after they graduate. As a result, some kids are more than 12 months older than other kids in the same year level.

Did she put out?

[Fitz Fitzpatrick 886]

The smart ones can be pretty Dirty

[Return to Glory 8,434]

Loving his progress, but I'm also hoping they don't get carried away and play him in every Casey game. I assume there's a plan.

[Grimseyisgod 378]

First time I've been excited about anything footy related in months.

Jesse Hogan = a reason to still be a Melbourne supporter come 2014, no matter how bad 2013 is!

hahaha spot on buddy

[Pates 9,660]

Loving his progress, but I'm also hoping they don't get carried away and play him in every Casey game. I assume there's a plan.

I imagine they've got a very structured plan with him to make sure he doesn't burn out. The most important thing with him will be conditioning to try to get his body ready for AFL next year, but the best part is that he's doing this against men in the VFL.

I am not at all concerned about them over doing it with Hoges this year because they had a test run of sorts with Viney last year.

[Grimseyisgod 378]

God's second cousin.. no wonder why he's so good

[monoccular 17,418]

WTF is a hyper bowl?

It is what our Pry Minister calls hyperbole.

hyperbole |hīˈpərbəlē| nounexaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally.

[Lordweaver 235]

saw him at the casino last Saturday night, just thought I'd tell ya.

[hardtack 10,537]

saw him at the casino last Saturday night, just thought I'd tell ya.

He's 18 now, so no problem.

[angrydee 842]

saw him at the casino last Saturday night, just

thought I'd tell ya.

And I hope you behaved yourself and didn't bring being a dees supporter into disrepute