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  On 03/09/2024 at 03:57, Axis of Bob said:

Then we shouldn't have played so badly this year. If we were top 4 again, as we hoped to be, then it'd pick 35. 

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Good point.

I was thinking it was 25 when we gave it to them, but of course it was a second round pick, not number 25 at the time.

So therefore we are getting a better pick back, than we thought we were giving them.

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  On 03/09/2024 at 03:54, Redleg said:

It sounds fair that we get back 25 the pick we gave for McAdam.

ANB is a Premiership player, who never misses a game and regularly finished top 10 in the B and F.

McAdam is an injury prone player, who played 3 games with the Dees this year and 7 with the Crows last year and is older than ANB.

Yeah getting our pick back sounds fair, NOT!

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Pick 25 is more than fair for ANB, we simply overpaid for mcadam

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  On 03/09/2024 at 04:12, adonski said:

Pick 25 is more than fair for ANB, we simply overpaid for mcadam

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Exactly right

I suggest we try and bundle this pick, as well as the other second rounder we have which is tied to Sydney (from the Grundy trade), and try to move down the draft order. There are a number of clubs who need points for bidding.

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Posted (edited)
  On 03/09/2024 at 03:57, Axis of Bob said:

Then we shouldn't have played so badly this year. If we were top 4 again, as we hoped to be, then it'd pick 35. 

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25 might be it, then, leaving the two 'good faith' parties with arguable wins and no mess. A friendly quick haggle might add Adelaide's 4th rounder (60) or a future 3rd to us, but 'good faith' would evapourate if it's a 3rd rounder (42) offer, or a hold-up while Adelaide pick-trades. If we had to throw in even just our 61, that'd take the 'win' gloss off.

 

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  On 03/09/2024 at 04:09, Redleg said:

So therefore we are getting a better pick back, than we thought we were giving them.

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I think so. I reckon that pick 25 seems about right to me (I'll wait for the clubs work out what the details of it are) and in line with what most of these types of deals usually get done for. I also think that a pick in the 30s is probably about right for McAdam, albeit probably before he had the down year that he had this year. 

We got lucky with Freo having a down year last year that allowed us to get Windsor (who last year traded Schulz for pick 34 and the premier's future 1st - which became pick 10), so it's all swings and roundabouts IMHO. 

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  On 03/09/2024 at 04:35, Axis of Bob said:

 

We got lucky with Freo having a down year last year that allowed us to get Windsor (who last year traded Schulz for pick 34 and the premier's future 1st - which became pick 10), so it's all swings and roundabouts IMHO. 

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That Schulz deal was exceptionally bad. He was never worth a first rounder, nor is he what the Pies needed.

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Really hope Dees grab the pick 25 off the Crows. Likely try to pickup Cooper Hynes from the Stingrays.  Hes got that burst of speed, toughness and great goal sense. Perfect across half forward and rotate through midfield.   

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  On 03/09/2024 at 12:43, spirit of norm smith said:

Really hope Dees grab the pick 25 off the Crows. Likely try to pickup Cooper Hynes from the Stingrays.  Hes got that burst of speed, toughness and great goal sense. Perfect across half forward and rotate through midfield.   

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Problem is I don't think Hynes will be there at pick 25. Reckon he'll go top 20.

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  On 03/09/2024 at 12:43, spirit of norm smith said:

Really hope Dees grab the pick 25 off the Crows. Likely try to pickup Cooper Hynes from the Stingrays.  Hes got that burst of speed, toughness and great goal sense. Perfect across half forward and rotate through midfield.   

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I personally don't see the burst of speed from Hynes at all from some of the games I've watched.

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Posted
  On 03/09/2024 at 12:43, spirit of norm smith said:

Really hope Dees grab the pick 25 off the Crows. Likely try to pickup Cooper Hynes from the Stingrays.  Hes got that burst of speed, toughness and great goal sense. Perfect across half forward and rotate through midfield.   

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It's not 'likely' - it's your opinion. The two are very different

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Posted (edited)
  On 30/08/2024 at 21:14, Ugottobekidding said:

I would take a punt on Curtin. Would be fair. ANB has elite stats this year. Pick 25 is way too low.

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ANB is 30 and 25 would be a great result but we would only get this if we give something back.

I reckon we get a future 2nd for him 

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Guess I value ANB more than most here. His running gives us an extra player at the contest so often, or someone positioned to receive.    
Improved his disposal.  

Draft picks usually take time to become good if they ever do. 

Too many good players let go for too little lately imho. 

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  On 03/09/2024 at 04:14, Jaded No More said:

Exactly right

I suggest we try and bundle this pick, as well as the other second rounder we have which is tied to Sydney (from the Grundy trade), and try to move down the draft order. There are a number of clubs who need points for bidding.

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Seems to me we are going to see (or should I say) should see quite a few leave the list 

If that happens can we afford to do any bundling of picks when we may need to do a major restock of talent? 
 

Not opposed to the idea but how to we fill our 44 list spots if we have limited draft picks ? I’m not seeing too many if any decent OOC players floating around that would improve our list 

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Posted
  On 03/09/2024 at 21:25, Demons11 said:

ANB is 30 and 25 would be a great result but we would only get this if we give something back.

I reckon we get a future 2nd for him 

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ANB is 29 at the start of next season and I reckon he can play at least 4 more seasons - probably got another 100 games in him.

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  On 03/09/2024 at 21:25, Demons11 said:

ANB is 30 and 25 would be a great result but we would only get this if we give something back.

I reckon we get a future 2nd for him 

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ANB. He has played 96 out of 97 games possible in the last 4 years.  Super consistent.  Super reliable.  ANB and MFC pick 51 for Crows pick 25.  They are getting a player who walks into their best group (7-8) and is a leader.  

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  On 04/09/2024 at 20:37, spirit of norm smith said:

ANB. He has played 96 out of 97 games possible in the last 4 years.  Super consistent.  Super reliable.  ANB and MFC pick 51 for Crows pick 25.  They are getting a player who walks into their best group (7-8) and is a leader.  

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crom nuffies seem to think they'll offer something far later as 'dees already said he's leaving'

i think they miss the bit where he's still under contract etc. and a deal has probably been tentatively in place for some time

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I think ANB and McAdam for 25 is fair.

We kicked the tyres but would prefer a refund.  Sure it might look like we are giving them ANB for nothing, I'd prefer to say we are trading ANB for 25 and giving back the steak knives. 

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If this was reversed I would say ‘bad luck with that, we will get you a pick in the late thirties.’

But that is just me

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Posted
  On 06/09/2024 at 01:22, rpfc said:

If this was reversed I would say ‘bad luck with that, we will get you a pick in the late thirties.’

But that is just me

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Lucky for us footy clubs are not in the business of screwing each other.

What comes around goes around. We traded more than fairly for McAdams, and Adelaide will not want to short change us on Nibbler.

In this business, you get a lot more done being fair than you do stomping your feet like a petulant child. Just ask Dodoro. 

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Posted
  On 06/09/2024 at 01:36, Jaded No More said:

Lucky for us footy clubs are not in the business of screwing each other.

What comes around goes around. We traded more than fairly for McAdams, and Adelaide will not want to short change us on Nibbler.

In this business, you get a lot more done being fair than you do stomping your feet like a petulant child. Just ask Dodoro. 

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Crows are in the business of screwing everyone

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