Dees Potential Draft Play to Secure Pick #1

[The Great Pretender 430]

Chris Cavanagh in HERALD SUN Online -

“He played the first half entirely as an onballer, attending every centre bounce for which he was on the field.

However, close checking from Bulldogs opponents limited his ball-winning ability as he went into the main break with just five disposals to his name.“

Moved around in the second half. Spent some time forward and then half back in the last when he did a couple of nice things.

It seems that playing of half back is where the good young players get their start these days.

[Stiff Arm 4,412]

On 4/29/2023 at 1:54 PM, Freddy Fuschia said:

Harley Reid finished with a creditable 13 possessions (10k, 3h) but not as much as expected from someone with his reputation from the Under 18s.

Zane Duursma got 9 touches at Casey. Highlights the difference between boys playing men, regardless of reputation 

[rpfc 27,497]

An added wrinkle to using multiple high picks to get ND1 is that how many young players do we have biding time in the VFL that are waiting for a young side to age/retire/lose form/be traded and we are going to bring more into that logjam? 

It’s a good problem to have no doubt but if you can pool an investment of your 24-26th best players to get a top 15 player for your team, you’d do it.

Especially with our window wide open while Gawn, May, Grundy, and Viney still around.

[Demonland 65,435]

Melbourne

The Demons have their own first-rounder (currently pick 15), their future first-rounder and the Fremantle first-rounder (currently pick 9) acquired in the Luke Jackson trade, which is still likely to be around 10 or later this year if the Dockers’ charge continues.

It’s three first-round picks but they are the worst kind – one likely to push outside of 10 when free agency compo slots in, and two which might be around 20 if the Demons win the flag or compete deep both years.

The Demons could throw in an Adam Tomlinson type given he doesn’t play regularly but he’s 29.

James Jordon is an unrestricted free agent so the Demons can’t include him in a deal.

If you were West Coast, you would ask for Kozzie Pickett and two first-rounders this year just to start the ball rolling.

Melbourne would tell them they were dreaming.

Claremont’s Jacob Van Rooyen is going nowhere.

West Coast would ask for East Fremantle’s Trent Rivers to be thrown into the deal.

But unless the Demons could get a top five pick in this year’s draft, it’s hard to see how a deal gets done.

[david_neitz_is_my_dad 3,927]

I wanna know what Jason Taylor thinks about Harley Reid. Given Taylor can pluck guns from the pile i doubt he wants to go all in

[Redleg 37,682]

6 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

I wanna know what Jason Taylor thinks about Harley Reid. Given Taylor can pluck guns from the pile i doubt he wants to go all in

We have a chance to possibly put all our eggs in one basket and get a seriously good player, OR, have a strong draft hand, to get some very good young players in and maybe solve a few of our problems.

I am in favour of the latter.

 

[beelzebub 22,225]

4 minutes ago, Redleg said:

We have a chance to possibly put all our eggs in one basket and get a seriously good player, OR, have a strong draft hand, to get some very good young players in and maybe solve a few of our problems.

I am in favour of the latter.

 

Always

[poita 3,622]

We need to add multiple quality players, particularly through the midfield, in this year's draft. Taking any less than 3 top 40 picks would be negligent on our part. I can't see any circumstance where we should be considering parting with multiple picks and players to take one player, no matter how good he may end up being.

[Gawndy the Great 7,465]

Id be willing to give this years R1 and R2 picks and next years R1 for Reid and nothing more - it is roughly equal on points but unlikely to get it done. Maybe throw in a R3 for good measure. 

What we have going for us is that WC don't have the luxury to target 1 player. They are in dire straights and need to turnover a large amount of their list. if they could target 4-5 players in the the top 30 this year and next year, their rebuild lasts 4-5 years max. keeping that as 2-3 players each year,  probably adds another 2-3 drafts into the mix extending their rebuild time. If they are prepared to take that gamble, well at least the trips out west will be favorable for us. 

[Roost it far 6,190]

22 minutes ago, poita said:

We need to add multiple quality players, particularly through the midfield, in this year's draft. Taking any less than 3 top 40 picks would be negligent on our part. I can't see any circumstance where we should be considering parting with multiple picks and players to take one player, no matter how good he may end up being.

So if WC come to us and say we’ll take your 3 first round picks for Harley Reid you’d say no thanks?

Imagine JHF running around for us only better. 

Edited May 26, 2023 by Roost it far

[TRIGON 4,719]

9 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Id be willing to give this years R1 and R2 picks and next years R1 for Reid and nothing more - it is roughly equal on points but unlikely to get it done. Maybe throw in a R3 for good measure. 

Can you clarify that please @Gawndy the Great?

It reads as if you're offering up to six picks for Reid?

• 3 Round 1s,
• 2 Round 2s, and
• 1 Round 3.

[Gawndy the Great 7,465]

26 minutes ago, TRIGON said:

Can you clarify that please @Gawndy the Great?

It reads as if you're offering up to six picks for Reid?

• 3 Round 1s,
• 2 Round 2s, and
• 1 Round 3.

It does too! Multi tasking is not my forte. 
just 3-4 picks in total - R1, R2 ( from Freo for LJ )) and next years future 1st first offer. If close, but not enough a 3rd rounder. 

 

 

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,174]

Reid is an inciting proposition, but we can’t sell the farm to get him.  

I have a feeling the list may need a little overhaul/refresh at the end of the season.

[Older demon 2,166]

Must be a slow news week if that is the best Ralph can come up with. Another half a season to go  and I wouldn't be selling the Farm for Reid. Elite foot skilled outside run midfielder and more talls. Only 2 ruckman on the list and 2 key forwards in their declining years 

[Bombay Airconditioning 5,941]

GWS can trump us easily.

[Demon Disciple 11,020]

Either trade the picks for ready-made talent (hard unless we shed some cap space ourselves), or improve our picks to have a good presence inside the first 20 picks.

Edited May 26, 2023 by Demon Disciple

[Bombay Airconditioning 5,941]

GWS currently have pick 4 plus Richmond’s pick 5 + if Himmelberg leaves they could get a top 10 pick as free agency compensation.

(copied of HS)

[demoniac 1,243]

Can't see Dees being in contention for a trade for Nm 1 pick. Just have have the top 5/top 10 picks.

[Supreme_Demon 3,011]

If West Coast "win" the wooden spoon this year they may indeed look to trade the number 1# AFL draft pick for a bunch of first round picks. Which Melbourne will have.

 

It could be possible, epecially as the Eagles are well and truly in "rebuilding" mode after getting smashed by the Hawks over the weekend.

 

Furthermore, Harley Reid could end up another "Chris Judd" leaving the Eagles for a Victorian Club eventually. I don't think the Eagles would want that again (unless they get another Flag from it like in 2006).

 

Anyway, I would definitely love for the Demons to fluke a deal to get the number 1# AFL draft pick from the Eagles and snaffle up Harley Reid! Imagine him learning in an elite midfield with Petracca, Oliver and Viney! Sadly, I think it is a bit of a pipe dream. But never say never!

Edited May 26, 2023 by Supreme_Demon

[Clintosaurus 6,467]

Reckon we do something with GWS and get Zane Duursma.

[John Demonic 4,813]

1 hour ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

GWS can trump us easily.

If they'd made the academy bid rules Pick 20+ in 2015, Gold Coast would've drafted Hopper instead and traded him for Richmond's 1st this year, and would be in the best position to land Harley Reid. 

And we'd have Callum Mills in our midfield instead of Clarry

Edited May 26, 2023 by John Demonic

[BDA 20,175]

Definitely wouldn't spend all our chips on Reid.

take our picks to the draft and let JT work his magic or bundle them up for a key forward. We're in serious need given TMac and BB are coming to the end

[beelzebub 22,225]

Are we that stupid to still seek the silver bullet of pick #1..   thats for desperate loser clubs.

Were you lot not listening to Roos ffs

You trade in talent

Picks are for the bank.

Sheesh

[Fritta and Turner 3,710]

18 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Are we that stupid to still seek the silver bullet of pick #1..   thats for desperate loser clubs.

Were you lot not listening to Roos ffs

You trade in talent

Picks are for the bank.

Sheesh

i thought it was you trade in needs but you draft talent...

[Gator 16,893]

41 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

Reckon we do something with GWS and get Zane Duursma.

I've been wrong before but Duursma is the player I'd like.  I won't be surprised if he ends up as good or better than Reid.

I agree that he may fall around their picks and a trade with them may be earmarked.