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2 minutes ago, darkhorse72 said:

I have no grudge on Jackson going home...but I want them to finish as low as possible to get value from their picks.

As for Jackson, he's now a very highly paid player at the club (By all reports).  But Freo does not have a great record of developing players to come to them from another club.  For some reasons it almost always goes pear shaped. 

Jackson has started the year how he finished the last... well below his potential. His role hasn't really changed between the clubs too much so, 4th years blues?

 

 

I have absolutely no sympathy for Fremantle. A bottom 4 finish would be magnificent. 
I do have some sympathy for LJ because I know he was torn in a few directions last year. 
His management have a lot to answer for. 
But watching Freo’s ride of Doom will be fantastic 

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1 hour ago, Go the Biff said:

Fremantle Bigfooty board makes for some entertaining light reading. 

Happy to see them stew in their own juice. They have given me the brace'n'bits for years now starting with their constant pestering of Jesse Hogan from the moment he got to us. And when they finally lured him they did more damage to his career than his bung foot did. Would love to see him bag 60 goals for the Giants just to stick it up the Wanchors.

It's a cautionary tale for any young forward. They killed of Cam McCarthy's career and transformed Rory Lobbe from a rising star into a goal a game plodder.

Come to think of it they've given me the brace'n'bits since they tried to nick Stephen Tingay off us. Followed by pinching The Wiz.

brace’n’bits? what TF does that mean?

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2 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

We wasted pick 3 on a player who then won a rising star and a flag within the first two season of his career, and then decided halfway through his third season that he just couldn’t be stuffed giving anything to our club anymore. He decided mid season he wanted to go home and didn’t even try after that. He also couldn’t care less about us being screwed in a trade deal, refusing to even engage with West Coast. 
He treated our club like it a means to an end. I have no idea why I need to be kind to him. 

he is playing worse now than he did for us last season. so i guess he can’t be stuffed still? or maybe he is not that good  

bizarre comment. he played for us. did well and won and flag and moved on. i don’t get the ill will

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5 hours ago, layzie said:

I believed the whole way through last year and will continue to believe that the best possible thing Luke could have done for his career was to sign a two year deal with us, pay his butt off and if he still wanted to go home doing so at that point with a big fat ego contract. This wasn't the right time and he's played it poorly, even if he does become a star and has team success he'll be doing it the hard way now.

Gavin Wanganeen left Essendon at 23 after a Brownlow and a flag. Port made him the inaugural skipper and really struggled with it for years. He regretted the decision, especially when Essendon won again in 2000 and felt he made a mistake. Fortunately he won it with Port in 04 but I hope Luke doesn't wake up one day thinking the same thing. 

I hope he does to be honest. In the last 50 odd years not too many players ever regretted leaving the dees… these are special times. Right now, if he’d stayed, he’d be the main man with a flag favourite. Freo will have a year or two of going backwards given  all the players they lost AND ( not that I know anything …i don’t) I wonder if some of their  players are [censored] about that.  He absolutely should be regretting his move already. 

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0-2 makes them statistically unlikely to play finals. The fact they had what was considered an easy draw to start makes it a disaster, and difficult to recover from. Punters have them not making finals (based on current odds available).

It's a massive win for us if they don't make the finals.

Even just finishing 9th and we'll get picks 10 and 28 to go with last year's pick 13. Points equivalent of pick 2 (2517 points) for the trade.

Drop to 11th and it's points equivalent to pick 1 (3000 points) they've given us!

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Jackson comments on the Freo boards

 * Jackson is a unicorn bull [censored]  the guys a bloody donkey

* Said Jackson was s**t, was s**t then preceded to trade for him.
All the great trades prior to this, evaporated.

* I watched Jackson pretty close and there was 1/2 a dozen times where he should have been breaking out of his running patterns to react to the ball but he just kept his head down motoring along to get to where he was ‘ supposed’ to be 

Need picks for the Jackson disaster.

Jackson can’t mark s**t up forward.

* I don’t think Jackson is a Unicorn, more like a clapped out cart horse. Except I think a clapped out cart horse could mark better.

* Jackson would be good if he actually had some impact in some way on the game. It would be good If he took a mark

* Jackson is clearly not worth what we paid.

 

 

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Freo is a graveyard for returning home grown players. I've no idea why but it turns to s**t pretty quickly.

Jackson should have stayed with us to develop out of the spotlight. Mature in his own time. He's exposed to the full glare of the feral Freo crowd now who will eat him alive. 

And Sean Darcy is a much better ruck (needs to lose a few kgs it must be said). He's now having to split ruck time with Jackson. What must he be thinking?

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12 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

Jackson's 2 games in, give the kid a chance. What is he, 21? It'll be 3 -4 years before he reaches his potential. I hope at that point he tears the competition apart in a side that struggles to play beyond the first week of finals.

You’re right. He’s 21 and in his third full season. He is a child and a tall one at that, which means he will have a lot of down games.
But he and only he chose to chase this insane contract and to run to mum as fast as he possibly could, instead of sticking around with a premiership team where he could play under a generational ruckman with absolutely no pressure to perform.

FFS even when he was stinking it up last season and it was obvious he was leaving, we still gave him every chance to succeed. 
He chose to make himself a target for his putrid performances, which are completely normal at this stage of his career. You make your bed….

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11 hours ago, Redleg said:

I posted after Freo got rid of 5 players to fit LJ in, that it could cause anger among the rest of the Freo list and also jealousy at his pay packet.

I wonder if this is happening.

If they start winning, they'll suck it up. Winning cures all ills in a football club. But if they keep losing ...

 

11 hours ago, gs77 said:

It's a shame there wasn't recent history of MFC talls heading to freo for the go-home factor only to struggle with sky-high expectations and cop grief from fans and the press over there.

Imagine the twin-prong forward setup the Giants will be able to boast in '24 or '25. Hogan AND Jackson.

 

11 hours ago, deva5610 said:

I hope for his sake he improves before they really start piling on the pressure over here.

Too late!

(I see Demonland has posted a few of the comments being made.)

 

9 hours ago, demoniac said:

And it would be better for his development to stay at the Dees and further develop his still raw ruck and key position talent rather than move west now at a high draft and salary cap cost where he would inevitably be under much more pressure when he is nowhere near the finished product that can perform to that cost. Maybe its the player manager role to raise that rather than Freo.

Player manager: "SHOW ME THE MONEY! SHOW ME THE M-- what? Development ... ? Better ... for his .... devel ... SHOW ME THE MONEY!"

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6 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

You’re right. He’s 21 and in his third full season. He is a child and a tall one at that, which means he will have a lot of down games.
But he and only he chose to chase this insane contract and to run to mum as fast as he possibly could, instead of sticking around with a premiership team where he could play under a generational ruckman with absolutely no pressure to perform.

FFS even when he was stinking it up last season and it was obvious he was leaving, we still gave him every chance to succeed. 
He chose to make himself a target for his putrid performances, which are completely normal at this stage of his career. You make your bed….

If we get picks 9-11, 13 and 28ish in this years draft for a player who helped us win a Premiership in his second year I for one will be stoked. We can trade those picks up the order and pick one of the best young talents in the land. Player movements are part of the game now and our club has proven really good at maximising the benefits of this. I liked LJ and would have loved him to stay but his bed has $7 million in it and it's near all his mates and family, good luck to the kid.

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8 hours ago, DubDee said:

he is playing worse now than he did for us last season. so i guess he can’t be stuffed still? or maybe he is not that good  

bizarre comment. he played for us. did well and won and flag and moved on. i don’t get the ill will

Something about his manner suggest he still lacks the maturity to apply himself to fulfil his potential. Raw talent will go only so far. The AFL is full of talent, but then it becomes a matter of application to draw the best out of yourself.

LJ is not there yet. He is a bit of a doofus surviving on talent alone and may need a rocket to turn himself around. Rabid Freo fans will not cut him much slack so if it doesn't come from inside the club it will still come. Then we will discover whether we have won or lost on his departure.

 

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Freo won’t make finals. It’s more than dropping a couple games, they just haven’t moved the ball with flow, and struggle going inside 50. A problem that is compounded by not having great forwards if they do go inside 50 well. Many of their goals yesterday came from either opportune moments from goal sneaks or umpire frees. 

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1 hour ago, Roost it far said:

Jackson's 2 games in, give the kid a chance. What is he, 21? It'll be 3 -4 years before he reaches his potential. I hope at that point he tears the competition apart in a side that struggles to play beyond the first week of finals.

Ooh, yes, he can be Fremantle's Matthew Richardson. So easy to picture.

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1 hour ago, Roost it far said:

Jackson's 2 games in, give the kid a chance. What is he, 21? It'll be 3 -4 years before he reaches his potential. I hope at that point he tears the competition apart in a side that struggles to play beyond the first week of finals.

Tell that to the Freo ferals.

I agree regarding his potential, but he's getting paid the big bucks to deliver now, not in a couple of years. He doesn't have time to develop. The Freo crowd will be on his back. It's a tough spot for a young developing ruck to be in. If he stayed with us he could have developed in his own time.

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2 hours ago, Demonland said:

Jackson comments on the Freo boards

 * Jackson is a unicorn bull [censored]  the guys a bloody donkey

* Said Jackson was s**t, was s**t then preceded to trade for him.
All the great trades prior to this, evaporated.

* I watched Jackson pretty close and there was 1/2 a dozen times where he should have been breaking out of his running patterns to react to the ball but he just kept his head down motoring along to get to where he was ‘ supposed’ to be 

Need picks for the Jackson disaster.

Jackson can’t mark s**t up forward.

* I don’t think Jackson is a Unicorn, more like a clapped out cart horse. Except I think a clapped out cart horse could mark better.

* Jackson would be good if he actually had some impact in some way on the game. It would be good If he took a mark

* Jackson is clearly not worth what we paid.

My personal favourite from their Board ?

"Jackson's idea of contesting for a mark is doing star jumps''

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