Jump to content


Recommended Posts

Posted
17 hours ago, rpfc said:

Maybe but remember; Brad Green after we won our first game of the year in Rd 10 in 2007 said ‘we can still play finals and we should aim for that.’

And you know what happened? ☺️


We finished 3rd last in 5 wins…

(cough)

I prefer not to speak that year, the beginning of some dark days...

Posted
22 hours ago, ANG13 said:

As bad as they have been so far they could well be on the same wins as us after next weekend. 

This is a ridiculous post.

They will have played three sides most picked to be bottom 4, and we will have played two top 4 and one (expected) top 8 sides.

We had the hardest first three weeks out of all teams. Freo had the easiest.

With Adelaide and GCS to come in round 4 and 5, unless they are 2-3 they are in serious trouble.

Remember, their return games are against: Brisbane, Geelong, Hawthorn, Sydney, West Coast, Western Bulldogs. Their fixture isn't getting easier.

  • Like 5
  • Love 1

Posted
35 minutes ago, deanox said:

This is a ridiculous post.

They will have played three sides most picked to be bottom 4, and we will have played two top 4 and one (expected) top 8 sides.

We had the hardest first three weeks out of all teams. Freo had the easiest.

With Adelaide and GCS to come in round 4 and 5, unless they are 2-3 they are in serious trouble.

Remember, their return games are against: Brisbane, Geelong, Hawthorn, Sydney, West Coast, Western Bulldogs. Their fixture isn't getting easier.

i just cranked up my computer and did some serious and in depth calculations on the ladder.

the amazing result is that there is only a 2 game difference between the bottom and top of the ladder

amazing, huh?

  • Haha 5
Posted
13 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

i just cranked up my computer and did some serious and in depth calculations on the ladder.

the amazing result is that there is only a 2 game difference between the bottom and top of the ladder

amazing, huh?

I expect to hear David King touting this amazing statistical insight sometime this week.

  • Like 1
  • Haha 2
Posted

The mistake Freo has made was that in the process of getting Jackson, they had 5 players leave, most of whom left because Freo either low-balled them or [censored] them off so bad they wanted out.  Lobb, Acres and Logue all played 20+ games in 2022 so they were clearly best 22 calibre.  Tucker played 14 and Meek 6 (no idea if injuries played a prat in those numbers).  That's far too much talent going out for a team supposedly on the rise with only Jackson, O'Meara and Josh Corbert coming in.

  • Like 4

Posted

Tabener has to be the most frustrating forward. 100 games, 29yo and he didn’t even have a scoring shot when he is their main target

him and LJ as the key talls is the worst fwd line in the league by a mile

  • Like 2
Posted (edited)
17 minutes ago, Vipercrunch said:

The mistake Freo has made was that in the process of getting Jackson, they had 5 players leave, most of whom left because Freo either low-balled them or [censored] them off so bad they wanted out.  Lobb, Acres and Logue all played 20+ games in 2022 so they were clearly best 22 calibre.  Tucker played 14 and Meek 6 (no idea if injuries played a prat in those numbers).  That's far too much talent going out for a team supposedly on the rise with only Jackson, O'Meara and Josh Corbert coming in.

It's just so obvious that this method is not how you take a club to the next step. Those 20 gamers you mentioned were big contributors in 2022, especially Acres. With a list profile at the stage theirs is at, that many changes can upset the mould and take time to reset again. Then to go out and throw the money bags out there who is really only high potential who doesn't address a need. They weren't crying out for a ruckman and he doesn't fix their forward issues.

I just can't see how this can be seen as an organisation making good and sensible decisions in line with the vision of a club yet to break their duck. I see it as a club that was on the way to building a 'bloods no DH' culture and overnight has pivoted to the old fashioned Carlton mentality and caving in to the shiny object syndrome.  

Edited by layzie
  • Like 7

Posted
2 minutes ago, layzie said:

It's just so obvious that this method is not how you take a side to the next step. Those 20 gamers you mentioned were big contributors in 2022, especially Acres. With a list profile at the stage theirs is at, that many changes can upset the mould and take time to reset again. Then to go out and throw the money bags out there who is really only high potential who doesn't address a need. They weren't crying out for a ruckman and he doesn't fix their forward issues.

I just can't see how this can be seen as an organisation making good and sensible decisions in line with the vision of a club yet to break their duck. I see it as a club that was on the way to building a 'bloods no DH' culture and overnight has pivoted to the old fashioned Carlton mentality and caving in to the shiny object syndrome.  

I think one thing Mark Neeld got wrong as coach was he thought that by virtue of playing x amount of games history tells you that's when you become good. i think the reality is you need a core of the right young players, surrounded by the right development coaches and program to play a significant number of games together with a similar game plan to build cohesion. 

Fremantle i'd say haven't identified and adapted to the new trends in footy and have gone back to an outdated game plan with slow movement, they don't have the players to kick a winning score consistently and by clearing out the players to fit in Luke Jackson, they've destroyed that cohesion, and upset the player group by paying him so much money. 

they're a live possibility to have a similar year to what we did in 2019 when we finished second last following a prelim. 

  • Like 7
Posted (edited)
36 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

I expect to hear David King touting this amazing statistical insight sometime this week.

And Kane Cornes misrepresenting it and launching a controversial narrative.

Edited by Spargonicus
  • Clap 1

Posted
2 minutes ago, Dwight Schrute said:

I think one thing Mark Neeld got wrong as coach was he thought that by virtue of playing x amount of games history tells you that's when you become good. i think the reality is you need a core of the right young players, surrounded by the right development coaches and program to play a significant number of games together with a similar game plan to build cohesion. 

 

Only one thing?

I think the idea of getting games into the kids was more of a Bailey thing over Neeld anyway as the latter went for more experienced recruits continually rather than keep hitting the draft.

You're spot on though with the core of right young players.  You need that committed and talented group to build around.

Posted
On 3/26/2023 at 12:39 PM, binman said:

Yep.

And losing to the roos AT HOME in round two, after losing round one, is a shocker.

I'd be impressed if anyone tipped that...or, assuming hallucinatory episode prior to game...

Posted

I was feeling a bit gloomy still after our performance so I wandered over to a Freo forum to make myself feel better, feeding from their negativity..... I wasn't let down and wow did I get my fill.

They're ready to burn the whole place down and start again and already wanting mass changes and the coach sacked.

I never had much against the dockers as they've always been rather irrelevant but reading some of the arrogance coming from supporters and administration when they picked up Hogan and Jackson really left a foul taste in my mouth.

So yes, I'm quite enjoying this whole 'death ride' experience and well and truly on board for season 2023.

This will be the second time in my life cheering on the Eagles on Sunday.  The first time ever was 2018 GF where I found myself watching as a completely neutral supporter until they kept showing Eddie pumping his fists and jumping out of his seat when the Pies got away early.

It was then I remembered the hatred of the filth > dislike of the eagles.

So let's go West Coast!  Bring us home a top 5 pick!

  • Like 10
Posted
19 hours ago, adonski said:

Hopefully the Giants can play the Eagles into form in preparation for next weeks derby

Another post that aged well.

We really need to get the MFC wine sponsor onto Demonland.

  • Like 2

Posted
1 hour ago, layzie said:

It's just so obvious that this method is not how you take a club to the next step. Those 20 gamers you mentioned were big contributors in 2022, especially Acres. With a list profile at the stage theirs is at, that many changes can upset the mould and take time to reset again. Then to go out and throw the money bags out there who is really only high potential who doesn't address a need. They weren't crying out for a ruckman and he doesn't fix their forward issues.

I just can't see how this can be seen as an organisation making good and sensible decisions in line with the vision of a club yet to break their duck. I see it as a club that was on the way to building a 'bloods no DH' culture and overnight has pivoted to the old fashioned Carlton mentality and caving in to the shiny object syndrome.  

yes layzie, but bellend did get that feather for his cap

a pyrrhic victory indeed

  • Like 1
Posted
21 minutes ago, demoniac said:

Eagles should win the derby.

Winless after 3 games.

Wowee. 

I feel sorry for Jackson. He is not playing well and the pressure and angst will build.

West Coast paying $3.30 for the win (under 40pts).  they certainly have a much more potent fwd line with Darling, Ryan, Allen, Waterman and Cripps.  Freo look lost and cannot score.  I reckon they are very close to being done for the year!

  • Like 2
Posted
1 hour ago, Dwight Schrute said:

I think one thing Mark Neeld got wrong as coach was he thought that by virtue of playing x amount of games history tells you that's when you become good. i think the reality is you need a core of the right young players, surrounded by the right development coaches and program to play a significant number of games together with a similar game plan to build cohesion. 

Fremantle i'd say haven't identified and adapted to the new trends in footy and have gone back to an outdated game plan with slow movement, they don't have the players to kick a winning score consistently and by clearing out the players to fit in Luke Jackson, they've destroyed that cohesion, and upset the player group by paying him so much money. 

they're a live possibility to have a similar year to what we did in 2019 when we finished second last following a prelim. 

It's a real 'Moneyball' approach that looks like it's been created by a computer. 

There's every chance this becomes a step back to go forward year for them. A lot riding on this derby.

  • Love 1

Posted

This thread has overtaken the weekly “what they are saying on [insert opposing team HQ location here] street” thread as my favourite on DL.

  • Like 6
Posted
39 minutes ago, demoniac said:

Eagles should win the derby.

Winless after 3 games.

Wowee. 

I feel sorry for Jackson. He is not playing well and the pressure and angst will build.

Why feel sorry?

  • Like 1

Posted
1 hour ago, DubDee said:

Tabener has to be the most frustrating forward. 100 games, 29yo and he didn’t even have a scoring shot when he is their main target

him and LJ as the key talls is the worst fwd line in the league by a mile

David King in SEN this morning said jackson must be saying to himself ..."... what AM I doing here..."  in relation to both Freo and Freo's forward line.

  • Like 3
Posted
8 minutes ago, loges said:

Why feel sorry?

Exactly.  Hes barely played 4 quarters in his life.  He's a cameo tall player with below average marking skills and getting paid 800,000 a year for 6 years plus.  Be happy for him.

And for us to get rid of him at his stocks high.  

  • Like 1
Posted
33 minutes ago, adonski said:

 

 

The way his body has been the last number of years...he would be as good a bet as the Swans playing an injured Reid in the GF.

  • Haha 1

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    BEST OF THE REST by Meggs

    Meggs' Review of Melbourne's AFLW Season 9 ... Congratulations first off to the North Melbourne Kangaroos on winning the 2024 AFLW Premiership. Roos Coach Darren Crocker has assembled a team chock-full of competitive and highly skilful players who outclassed the Brisbane Lions in the Grand Final to remain undefeated throughout Season 9. A huge achievement in what was a dominant season by North. For Melbourne fans, the season was unfortunately one of frustration and disappointment

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    AFLW Melbourne Demons 3

    TRAINING: Monday 2nd December 2024

    There were many Demonland Trackwatchers braving the morning heat at Gosch's Paddock today to witness the players go through the annual 2km time trials. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Max, TMac & Melksham the first ones out on the track.  Runners are on. Guess they will be doing a lot of running.  TRAINING: Max, TMac, Melksham, Woey, Rivers, AMW, May, Sharp, Kolt, Adams, Sparrow, Jefferson, Billings, Petty, chandler, Howes, Lever, Kozzy, Mentha, Fullarton, Sal

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports 1

    TRAINING: Friday 22nd November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers were out in force on a scorching morning out at Gosch's Paddock for the final session before the whole squad reunites for the Preseason Training Camp. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS It’s going to be a scorcher today but I’m in the shade at Gosch’s Paddock ready to bring you some observations from the final session before the Preseason Training Camp next week.  Salem, Fritsch & Campbell are already on the track. Still no number on Campbell’s

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports 4

    UP IN LIGHTS by Whispering Jack

    Those who watched the 2024 Marsh AFL National Championships closely this year would not be particularly surprised that Melbourne selected Victoria Country pair Harvey Langford and Xavier Lindsay on the first night of the AFL National Draft. The two left-footed midfielders are as different as chalk and cheese but they had similar impacts in their Coates Talent League teams and in the National Championships in 2024. Their interstate side was edged out at the very end of the tournament for tea

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Special Features

    TRAINING: Wednesday 20th November 2024

    It’s a beautiful cool morning down at Gosch’s Paddock and I’ve arrived early to bring you my observations from today’s session. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Reigning Keith Bluey Truscott champion Jack Viney is the first one out on the track.  Jack’s wearing the red version of the new training guernsey which is the only version available for sale at the Demon Shop. TRAINING: Viney, Clarry, Lever, TMac, Rivers, Petty, McVee, Bowey, JVR, Hore, Tom Campbell (in tr

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Monday 18th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers ventured down to Gosch's Paddock for the final week of training for the 1st to 4th Years until they are joined by the rest of the senior squad for Preseason Training Camp in Mansfield next week. WAYNE RUSSELL'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS No Ollie, Chin, Riv today, but Rick & Spargs turned up and McDonald was there in casual attire. Seston, and Howes did a lot of boundary running, and Tom Campbell continued his work with individual trainer in non-MFC

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    2024 Player Reviews: #11 Max Gawn

    Champion ruckman and brilliant leader, Max Gawn earned his seventh All-Australian team blazer and constantly held the team up on his shoulders in what was truly a difficult season for the Demons. Date of Birth: 30 December 1991 Height: 209cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 224 Goals MFC 2024: 11 Career Total: 109 Brownlow Medal Votes: 13 Melbourne Football Club: 2nd Best & Fairest: 405 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 12

    2024 Player Reviews: #36 Kysaiah Pickett

    The Demons’ aggressive small forward who kicks goals and defends the Demons’ ball in the forward arc. When he’s on song, he’s unstoppable but he did blot his copybook with a three week suspension in the final round. Date of Birth: 2 June 2001 Height: 171cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 106 Goals MFC 2024: 36 Career Total: 161 Brownlow Medal Votes: 3 Melbourne Football Club: 4th Best & Fairest: 369 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 5

    TRAINING: Friday 15th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers took advantage of the beautiful sunshine to head down to Gosch's Paddock and witness the return of Clayton Oliver to club for his first session in the lead up to the 2025 season. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Clarry in the house!! Training: JVR, McVee, Windsor, Tholstrup, Woey, Brown, Petty, Adams, Chandler, Turner, Bowey, Seston, Kentfield, Laurie, Sparrow, Viney, Rivers, Jefferson, Hore, Howes, Verrall, AMW, Clarry Tom Campbell is here

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!

×
×
  • Create New...