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Could Christian’s consistent inconsistency be merely due to his undeniable incompetence, or does it suggest the possibility of serious underlying “agendas” at the highest levels?

Seriously, how could he possibly condone / ignore  Rampe’s highly dangerous sling on Langdon, then ping this??  Incompetence alone, even gross incompetence, cannot explain it.

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28 minutes ago, monoccular said:

Could Christian’s consistent inconsistency be merely due to his undeniable incompetence, or does it suggest the possibility of serious underlying “agendas” at the highest levels?

Seriously, how could he possibly condone / ignore  Rampe’s highly dangerous sling on Langdon, then ping this??  Incompetence alone, even gross incompetence, cannot explain it.

I believe it’s not incompetence but maybe too much work for one person alone to tackle. Like he has to review in detail 9 games a weekend in minute detail and make decisions before Tuesday. Serious high profile incidents are  noted quickly and bought  to his attention. Others like the Langdon dumping appear on social media maybe a couple days after the incident. He needs some help. 

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10 minutes ago, John Crow Batty said:

I believe it’s not incompetence but maybe too much work for one person alone to tackle. Like he has to review in detail 9 games a weekend in minute detail and make decisions before Tuesday. Serious high profile incidents are  noted quickly and bought  to his attention. Others like the Langdon dumping appear on social media maybe a couple days after the incident. He needs some help. 

The Langdon incident, is shown quite clearly, on the replay.

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1 hour ago, Pates said:

Holy cow, how does that constitute $3k ($2k with an early plea)? Barely any force behind it at all, I'd even question if at actually made a forceful contact! FMD 

Could have broken a rib. Fair enough, very clumsy.

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We will keep the squirrel tackle locked away until GF day then?

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12 hours ago, Demonland said:

I mentioned to @Grapeviney at the time that it was silly. There was no need for it. 

Agreed. No KNEED at all. ?

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10 hours ago, John Crow Batty said:

I believe it’s not incompetence but maybe too much work for one person alone to tackle. Like he has to review in detail 9 games a weekend in minute detail and make decisions before Tuesday. Serious high profile incidents are  noted quickly and bought  to his attention. Others like the Langdon dumping appear on social media maybe a couple days after the incident. He needs some help. 

I always thought going from a MRP to a MRO was a backwards step. Look at the history of autocracy. *cough* Kim Jong-Un *cough*

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54 minutes ago, demonstone said:

Did TMac leave a Mark when he Neeld on his opponent?

 

15 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Agreed. No KNEED at all. ?

You two should be fined, let's say $3,000 or $2,000 with a guilty plea. 

As to the incident itself, I've watched that clip 10 times and am still looking for the evidence of a crime. I assume there must be another angle that Michael Christian has seen which shows the incident more clearly.

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13 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

Meanwhile, Riewoldt gets away with not one but two instances of using studs up, kicking his opponent underneath the ball.

Christian really is an inept imbecile.

Totally agree, Riewoldt is over the hill, and should be ( i don't care who reads this) dropped soon to make way for their good young FF in the VFL.

The AFL should be reminded of their position in regard to Power House Clubs receiving considerations, as in the past.

Maybe now is the "times" for Clubs with the name Melbourne in their title instead of Long and Don and Wood...

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16 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

 

You two should be fined, let's say $3,000 or $2,000 with a guilty plea. 

As to the incident itself, I've watched that clip 10 times and am still looking for the evidence of a crime. I assume there must be another angle that Michael Christian has seen which shows the incident more clearly.

I’m gonna appeal that. I’ll use the guy that represented Fritta. Should be all good. ? 

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Say what you like but the inept fools in the AFL are running an extortion racket . Pay thousands or plead guilty and pay less.Appeal  so give us 10,000. 

A friend of my brother worked in marketing there in the late 80's.Left  after a short time . Said the place was full of egotistical morons. 

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It was there and worthy of a mention/fine but Mumford's knee on Merrett the week before was a lot worse and not even looked at.

If they've decided to crack down on this stuff from now, that's fine but there needs to be transparency. Let the fans/players know at the start of the round.

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38 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

 

You two should be fined, let's say $3,000 or $2,000 with a guilty plea. 

As to the incident itself, I've watched that clip 10 times and am still looking for the evidence of a crime. I assume there must be another angle that Michael Christian has seen which shows the incident more clearly.

my thoughts exactly, ldvc

i too watched the above clip 10 times and saw nothing

is there a better clip or am i going blind?

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39 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

my thoughts exactly, ldvc

i too watched the above clip 10 times and saw nothing

is there a better clip or am i going blind?

Watch the overlay box that appears in the bottom right corner. Drops his knee into Plowman - not much in it but didn't need to do it.

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15 minutes ago, Cheesy D. Pun said:

Watch the overlay box in that appears in the bottom right corner. Drops his knee into Plowman - not much in it but didn't need to do it.

Thanks. Even after 10 viewings I hadn't even noticed that box until you brought it to my attention!

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It was almost like he lost his balance. There was no intent to hurt, there was no hurt.

It's rules one way, then not the other. If you injure a fellow player with what is considered an illegal or poorly judged act then you have to accept the consequences, so surely the opposite should be true. Nothing in it, no injury, no hurt, no reversal of the free to Kossie, play on.

And you can't compare it to Lynch who initiated the attack on his opponent, McDonald was sticking up for Kossie after Ploughman nearly took his neck off. Crude and violent poorly executed tackle. Even then he wouldn't get off or let go of Kossies jumper. If anything it could have been 50 metres but we haven't got to the round where they pay them yet.

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31 minutes ago, siam juntaRus said:

Say what you like but the inept fools in the AFL are running an extortion racket . Pay thousands or plead guilty and pay less.Appeal  so give us 10,000. 

A friend of my brother worked in marketing there in the late 80's.Left  after a short time . Said the place was full of egotistical morons. 

You'd think the AFLPA has a role to play here with the reasonableness or not of the fines being issued.

Yes, I know the AFLPA has an important interest in protecting players bodies, but I feel as if the arbitrariness with which the AFL hands our these fines is disgraceful.  And where does the fine money go?  Should go into some kind of long term player welfare or charitable fund (perhaps it does and hence why the AFLPA's lack of public criticism).

If I was a player, I'd be super [censored] about this issue.  Yes they earn alot but most of the only for a short time and $2k here and there would soon add up.  Should also be based on % of player base salary so they hurt the Dusty and Co.s as much as a rookie.

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About 2 weeks ago i rang several Sports Betting Organisations about having a small wager on said person for the BL.

Same organisations said they would look into it and get back. Time frame of this seems a tad coincidental especially if same person scores a few in earlier games.

Changes have since been made......

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7 hours ago, FritschyBusiness said:

No excuses here, You cant drop a knee onto an opponent no matter how hard or soft it is. 
Tom Lynch did it and copped a fine, so can Tmac.

Here is the precedent 
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-10/richmond-afl-knee-tom-lynch-dougal-howard-st-kilda/12750976

There is also the Mumford (actually, a series of them) precedent where nothing happens at all.  But then, he plays for GW$

6 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Thanks. Even after 10 viewings I hadn't even noticed that box until you brought it to my attention!

I wonder who brought it to Christian's attention then - cat have found it himself if he couldn't see the Langdon spear tackle off the ball.  Once again, evidence that there is an agenda driven by someone high up in AFL house.

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5 hours ago, monoccular said:

There is also the Mumford (actually, a series of them) precedent where nothing happens at all.  But then, he plays for GW$

Whilst mummy is a dog of a bloke and we all know he intentionally fell into the bombers player with his knee, its a completely different action to what Lynch/Tmac did

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