Malthouse’s Damning Assessment of Another Wasted Year

[Mental Demons 136]

He is right. There is plenty of evidence that the Melbourne brand is soft and badly managed.

[Macca 17,049]

8 minutes ago, markc said:

Mick is missing the spotlight again , it smacks in the face off  , crap I need to write something . 

very poorly written , most of which is old news and all of us in hindsight ..... 

Fyfe at pick 20 ....   lets see how many clubs didn't have Scully at pick 1 that year.  

maybe he should have done a article on his time at carlton , every team has a could've and would've drafted this and that player 10 years later.

Draft revisionists are everywhere though MC. 

Endeavouring to put high school age junior footballers in a numbered order of how good they are going to be 5 years down the track is crystal ball gazing at best.  But we're told otherwise.

Of course we've been a disappointment from an overall perspective but we were just dreadfully unlucky with our draft choices.  And if Petracca,  Brayshaw,  Oliver and the like had have been abject failures we'd be banging on about the draft (again)  Petracca & Brayshaw were standout juniors much like Scully & Trengove were.  And Oliver won the Morrish medal which has often been seen as a millstone.

Last year's failures were put down to 'off season surgeries' (by many) and now it's the coach who is in the gun.

I see our failures as an overall problem ... from the Board all the way down to the last player on the list.  And our list is not all that talented either especially when it comes to disposal skills and decision making skills.  A new coach isn't going to fix that in a hurry. 

We need an injection of 6 top players if we're going to be a true contender.  A team generally needs at least 5 or 6 years as a true contender in order to be able to win 1 or maybe 2 flags. 

We could jump up and fluke one but I don't like the odds on that happening.  I'd rather see the club build a great list of players and go from there.

[Sir Why You Little 37,195]

16 minutes ago, Mental Demons said:

He is right. There is plenty of evidence that the Melbourne brand is soft and badly managed.

Yes and the main reason i don’t think Goodwin will survive, but i am all for him proving me wrong. 
One of our main faults for decades has been hiring first time coaches. 
I am not blaming the person, but we need serious experience to reshape this old organization. 
 

 

[Demons11 7,061]

Malthouse ????

Bagging Melb for trading in Lever and May, this is same bloke who brought a broken Daisy to Carlton.  

The bloke lost all credibility after his time at Carlton.

[Biffen 12,947]

1 hour ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Similar to a putz. 

I thought he was a schmuck.

[John Crow Batty 8,879]

1 hour ago, markc said:

Mick is missing the spotlight again , it smacks in the face off  , crap I need to write something . 

very poorly written , most of which is old news and all of us in hindsight ..... 

Fyfe at pick 20 ....   lets see how many clubs didn't have Scully at pick 1 that year.  

maybe he should have done a article on his time at carlton , every team has a could've and would've drafted this and that player 10 years later. 

 

Fyfe was universally ranked as a low second rounder or high third round pick. He was a stroke of dumb luck being picked at 20 for Fremantle or they knew something no one else did about him. We got karma big time though for having top two picks and 4 first round picks. All duds for different reasons. As the Chinese say, 4 is the unluckiest number.

Edited August 9, 2020 by america de cali

[Demon Disciple 12,285]

1 hour ago, Demons11 said:

Malthouse ????

Bagging Melb for trading in Lever and May, this is same bloke who brought a broken Daisy to Carlton.  

The bloke lost all credibility after his time at Carlton.

We also cannot forget he brought in that dauntingly physical Kristian Jakschit

[Demons11 7,061]

34 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

We also cannot forget he brought in that dauntingly physical Kristian Jakschit

??for pick 7

[loges 6,767]

Thought it was time to stop reading when he said Lever and May were the same type of player.

[Grr-owl 1,254]

1 hour ago, america de cali said:

Fyfe was universally ranked as a low second rounder or high third round pick. He was a stroke of dumb luck being picked at 20 for Fremantle or they knew something no one else did about him. We got karma big time though for having top two picks and 4 first round picks. All duds for different reasons. As the Chinese say, 4 is the unluckiest number.

You know why 4 is "unlucky"? Because the sound for the word that represents the number is similar to the sound of the word for death. Consequently, buildings don’t have 4th floors, much in the way that western buildings often don’t have 13th floors. I used to enjoy debunking such superstitious [censored] with my students, logically asserting that, given there is but one earth shared by all peoples, if either were true then all buildings in Australia with 4th floors would be unlucky and all buildings in *hin@ with 13th floors would be unlucky, and as they’re not, the power of the belief depends upon believing in the first place.... and is therefore bogus.

Not sure why I told you this. ‘Pose I just saw an opportunity for an anecdote. Belief is certainly powerful, however, and if MFC ever gets some we might win a flag...

 

[whatwhat say what 22,976]

one of the more fatuous 'articles' mick has ever come up - cliche after cliche, bearing no relevance to the 2020 side...save for extolling the virtues of four players and then comparing may and lever, two markedly different defenders

and the player picked up as a result of "trading dom tyson for josh kelly" (or bryce gibbs 2.0 as he appears to be) was none other than christian salem, who mick rates as one of the best four in the side

either do some actual research and reason-based analysis or stick to cliche and increasingly unreadable irrelevance

[titan_uranus 25,046]

Rubbish article from a washed up old man desperately trying to remain relevant when his grasp on AFL flew out the window a decade ago.

[Sir Why You Little 37,195]

2 hours ago, Grr-owl said:

You know why 4 is "unlucky"? Because the sound for the word that represents the number is similar to the sound of the word for death. Consequently, buildings don’t have 4th floors, much in the way that western buildings often don’t have 13th floors. I used to enjoy debunking such superstitious [censored] with my students, logically asserting that, given there is but one earth shared by all peoples, if either were true then all buildings in Australia with 4th floors would be unlucky and all buildings in *hin@ with 13th floors would be unlucky, and as they’re not, the power of the belief depends upon believing in the first place.... and is therefore bogus.

Not sure why I told you this. ‘Pose I just saw an opportunity for an anecdote. Belief is certainly powerful, however, and if MFC ever gets some we might win a flag...

 

Bit like when a plane goes down

Astrology predictions are just wrong!!

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

2 hours ago, Grr-owl said:

Not sure why I told you this. ‘Pose I just saw an opportunity for an anecdote. Belief is certainly powerful, however, and if MFC ever gets some we might win a flag...

Education broadens the mind. No apologies required.

[whatwhat say what 22,976]

bah humbug

Edited August 9, 2020 by whatwhatsaywhat
wrong thread

[Queanbeyan Demon 6,875]

he's a bitter and twisted ol' &$#@. How the hell did he only win 2 premierships in 10 years at West Coke with a state side at his disposal? 

[Mister Ed 317]

Change the name on his column to Mickey Mouse.

[Farmer 889]

12 hours ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

My favourite part is he mentions Salem as one of 4 quality players we have. Then says we traded the pick Kelly went for for Dom Tyson but no mention of Salem. The article cant decide whether it wants to trash our lack of culture, historical recruiting and trading or the coach and game plan. So why not a little bit from all three columns

Exactly right.

at that time we were rock bottom. To get Tyson and Salem instead of Kelly made sense. Tyson gave us an  immediate  lift .A lot of lazy research in the Malthouse piece and no reference to the brilliant recruiting this year 

[Farmer 889]

9 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Yes and the main reason i don’t think Goodwin will survive, but i am all for him proving me wrong. 
One of our main faults for decades has been hiring first time coaches. 
I am not blaming the person, but we need serious experience to reshape this old organization. 
 

 

I see zero evidence of softness. We play tough un relenting football,  Sometimes  skills let us down. I think we finish matches v well

[Farmer 889]

11 hours ago, drdrake said:

The only comment that was a real crack was the melbourne storm sweat on the gym floor, not ours.  That is a whack as you control how hard you work.  

The rest is on repeat on every article about Melbourne for the past 20 years.  We are all frustrated that we can't address the ongoing issues at our club.

And I think that’s a real B S Line . I see no evidence 

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,709]

Mick please go and get pharked, please we don't need to hear you commentary.

Your thoughts and mannerisms are so outdated and illogical at this Junction of the season.

Go and right articles on Carlton you geriatric phark.

[Farmer 889]

12 hours ago, Mr Steve said:

Compare Malthouses article which is little more than " I have to submit a story or I won't get paid" To Jordan Lewis's article which hits the head on the nail. 

Where do we find the Jordon Lewis piece?

[Dame Gaga 2,453]

10 hours ago, deespicable me said:

This along with Matthew Lloyd recently gives me the pip. The first three qtrs (admitedly we were poor at times ) against Crows Dermott the insufferable and his crew were just piling into Melbourne.

We have the makings of a good team. Goody is poor but trying and good teams work it out for themselves and eventually make the coach look good. Our worst issue is destabilisation from outside forces who have their own agendas

Have a crack at Hawthorn, who look [censored]. Dogs going nowhere, Collingwoods injuries and culture. But no, these weak b#stards want to take the easy route and pick on Melbourne. They can all f#ck  the f#ck off

Why didn't he have a go at Richmond? What kind of culture is going on there? Re: groping scandal.  No, it seems as long as everyone says sorry we all move on and go back to cliches about Melbourne. If we weren't in lockdown I suppose he would have dragged up the old we are all at the snow chestnut.

[Sir Why You Little 37,195]

45 minutes ago, Farmer said:

I see zero evidence of softness. We play tough un relenting football,  Sometimes  skills let us down. I think we finish matches v well

Only when we feel like it. 
it’s not written in stone

[Wrecker45 3,378]

Alot of demonlanders had LJ and Pickett in their votes. Madhouse probably doesn't rate their games because they weren't kicking along the boundary line.