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We have almost zero run and carry out of defence so we could definitely do worse....

get him for free too 

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How hard does he want to resurrect a career?

if his attitude to that is right, he could be worth a lifeline, with incentives 

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8 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

if his attitude to that is right, he could be worth a lifeline, with incentives 

 

 

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Big yes from me, as he is another good outside runner 

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If he can improve are side then yes, we need to start to think ot side the box, or we will be on the bttom of the ladder for years to come.

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 he's only 22 and if we can get him for not much then it's worth a shot. If he's prepared to work hard with personal trainer ect to get back then you would expect that he might have matured a bit with off field behaviour as well. 

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4 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

Pies mate: “he’s deplorable”

He was actually very good in the season he played at Collingwood.

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We cannot have anorher rubbish kick in our side.

We have only traded or drafted two above average kicks in the Roos/Goodwin era - Salem and fritter. And offset that by trading out our only elite kick in watts.

Two out of what 35-40 new players?

Given Tomlinson and Langdon are at best average kicks we simply have to prioritise kicking skills in every other trade or draft.

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Only if he costs a bag of chips, with a lot of clauses in his contract that state we can drop him at the drop of a hat.

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22 minutes ago, binman said:

Given Tomlinson and Langdon are at best average kicks we simply have to prioritise kicking skills in every other trade or draft.

I think Tomlinson's kicking is above average but I really fear for Langdon's disposal. Has a similar kicking style to Hunt/Frost. Hopefully it's not too late for him to change/improve it.

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This from the AFL site, 

"It remains to be seen whether the opposition interest in the defender will result in Collingwood looking to broker a trade, or if Murray could find a third club as a delisted free agent."

How do the Pies broker a trade if he has already been delisted?

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I say yes only because he is quick and we lack pace especially with Frost gone. His kicking is woeful but that can be worked on especially considering we get him for nothing.

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On 10/3/2019 at 10:28 PM, Redleg said:

How do the Pies broker a trade if he has already been delisted?

I read a couple of articles that stated he’d been told he won’t receive a new contract however no mention of him being officially delisted. 

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His kicking certainly isn't using a great technique but I'm not sure he's even played enough AFL to really know what it's like. At the Pies he was clearly bought in to run and carry and that's what he did with great success, then teams caught on and he ran himself in to trouble. Then he was banned before he got to make that next adjustment/development.

Are we sure he will even be set for a half back role? Could play midfield or half forward. 

Just for the pace alone I'd take a chance on him as depth...unfortunately we've gone and signed up all our depth players already!

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I'd say he's an upgrade on what we have in terms of depth, even though he might not be a great bloke.

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On 10/3/2019 at 10:28 PM, Redleg said:

How do the Pies broker a trade if he has already been delisted?

I don't think he is officially off their list until the end of October, when players' contracts terminate.

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8 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

I don't think he is officially off their list until the end of October, when players' contracts terminate.

That is interesting, as he is listed as a delisted player on the AFL site under Collingwood. That means that players are not wanted but if someone shows interest, the club can ask for something. 

If no one shows interest he can be taken for nothing. If I wanted a player in that category, I would tell them to say they are probably retiring and then get them for nothing.

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15 minutes ago, Redleg said:

That is interesting, as he is listed as a delisted player on the AFL site under Collingwood. That means that players are not wanted but if someone shows interest, the club can ask for something. 

If no one shows interest he can be taken for nothing. If I wanted a player in that category, I would tell them to say they are probably retiring and then get them for nothing.

It won’t matter, even if there were a trade it would be a token one. At most late pick or pick swap, he is effectively a delisted drug cheat. Although how residual Cocaine from the night before can be considered performance enhancing is an interesting one. 

As a side note, just because he has had some problems doesn’t mean he is irredeemable. He has an exciting turn of speed but looks far too one dimensional and predictable. We saw Hunt going this way as well. He needs more strings in his bow. I personally find it hard to tell what his kicking is like, he puts himself under so much pressure by always trying to run the ball through congestion that even the best kicker is going to end up with a messy disposal. For the right price I think he would be an interesting experiment. 

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11 hours ago, binman said:

We cannot have anorher rubbish kick in our side.

We have only traded or drafted two above average kicks in the Roos/Goodwin era - Salem and fritter. And offset that by trading out our only elite kick in watts.

Two out of what 35-40 new players?

Given Tomlinson and Langdon are at best average kicks we simply have to prioritise kicking skills in every other trade or draft.

Tomlinson is a decent kick

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