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I thought he was finished last year but 9 goals from 7 games means he was on track for a 30 goal season - even with a dodgy shoulder.   He is still a mile ahead of any other small forward we have so I would give him a performance based one year deal.  Lets not throw out the baby with the bathwater.  

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Your making me cranky cranky. May kick a few out the back against soft team but absolutely no future with this guy. Certain delist IMO.

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As I've posted a couple of times before, took personal leave late 2017 and when came back was way out of form for a good year and a half. This year played some "ok" games. Borderline for me.

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24 minutes ago, Bates Mate said:

We need forwards who apply pressure and stuck tackles. Jeffy store doing this 3 years ago and shield the hard stuff everytime.

We've got a few of them already, and they don't kick goals. I think we should keep someone that has a talent for excelling in one specialized area and not in a few others and just deal with it ie Keep someone who kicks goals.

I recall 3 years ago, most people on this forum laughed at the idea of bringing in a player/s like brad Hill, and the comment was always the same "Too many uncontested possessions" or "Too soft"- 80% of BH's possessions are uncontested and he's the exact type of player that would fill the hole we've dug ourselves in for ignoring these types of players that offer speed and spread. Players like Garlett, that have a talent in one specialized area, but deficiencies in another.

We've conceded that we need outside runners and not just inside bulls. Why can't we concede that we need natural goal kickers and not just defensive pressure forwards?

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Definitely keep. Would he have kicked the goal with the last kick yesterday? Yes. 

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Hell no. A prerequisite for playing AFL football is the desire to win a contest and wear some physical pressure. Garlett's had no interest in any of that for a couple of years and is only getting slower and more brittle.

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As always, the decision should be made on a number of criteria:

Is he up for the task that we want him for (goal scoring/pressure forward)

Do we have other or better options for that role?

Is he value for money?

So at the moment it is (?/no), (?/no),  so the final question doesn’t need to be answered.  If we can sign Tippa, or find another option in the draft, then I reckon he is gone.  If not, then he might get another year. .

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I'd be very surprised if he is on our list in 2020. 

No more pea hearted passengers please.

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If Garlett remains we are in trouble.It means we have no one and/or can recruit no one to fill the small forward role.

Perhaps we are in trouble as we seem to be on most lines in our team.

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Whether Garlett is on our list will come down to whether he can apply forward pressure. With his shoulder injury this year its unfair to use this year as the sample. 

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8 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

I'd be very surprised if he is on our list in 2020. 

No more pea hearted passengers please.

He certainly took some very soft options in the games I saw him play Moonie. However, I have subsequently wondered whether he ( like others) was playing under an injury cloud and was simply being cautious.

He has demonstrated he can be a useful small forward. It may come down to what @Diamond Jim suggests as to who we can replace him with.

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2 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Hell no. A prerequisite for playing AFL football is the desire to win a contest and wear some physical pressure. Garlett's had no interest in any of that for a couple of years and is only getting slower and more brittle.

Agree ds.  He lost me this year 

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Dan Butler from Richmond is the most logical target.

Papley and Tippa are likely out of the price range but I’m sure we asked the question. 

If not those guys then I have more confidence in Lockhart as one option who can win the ball and use it pretty well. Isn’t a goal sneak or a great inside 50 tackler but he brings a fair bit to the table. And I want to see more of Chandler who has consistently good tackle numbers at Casey and some smarts. 

Small forwards are risk/reward draft picks. Unless you can get a great one then just keep picking them with later picks and develop them up. 

I’d rather use a list spot on bringing in a high upside speculative kid than the hope that Garlett turns back the clock. 

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20 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

He certainly took some very soft options in the games I saw him play Moonie. However, I have subsequently wondered whether he ( like others) was playing under an injury cloud and was simply being cautious.

He has demonstrated he can be a useful small forward. It may come down to what @Diamond Jim suggests as to who we can replace him with.

He was always like that. It wasn't exclusive to this year.

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3 minutes ago, praha said:

He was always like that. It wasn't exclusive to this year.

To be fair his role never included being a smash through bull. However, he was certainly soft this year but I can't say I've noticed it previously.

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On further thought we may already have his replacement on our list. Thought Lockhart showed a bit after coming to the club with no preseason. He inevitably ran out of puff as the season wore on, a bit of x factor their too.

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Un fortunately he is not getting better and his body is letting him down.

Have a suggestion Nathan Jones as small fws . COmpetitive .

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Garlett should be delisted imo. I think we have to get games into Lockhart, Bedford, Spargo and Chandler next year to find out who is worth persisting with, and who isn't. 

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Gut feel is he might retire.

But please can we stop with the incorrect statements, he leads our entire club for average tackles inside 50.

Also happens to be our leading average goal kicker.

Let's open both eyes and be grown up when talking about him hey.

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3 hours ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

He certainly took some very soft options in the games I saw him play Moonie. However, I have subsequently wondered whether he ( like others) was playing under an injury cloud and was simply being cautious.

He has demonstrated he can be a useful small forward. It may come down to what @Diamond Jim suggests as to who we can replace him with.

IMO he is finished as an AFL player.

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3 hours ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

To be fair his role never included being a smash through bull. However, he was certainly soft this year but I can't say I've noticed it previously.

It is difficult to analyse footballers, when you are sloshed on those cheap casks of wine you guzzle each night, before retiring to the dungeon.

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3 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Dan Butler from Richmond is the most logical target.

Papley and Tippa are likely out of the price range but I’m sure we asked the question. 

If not those guys then I have more confidence in Lockhart as one option who can win the ball and use it pretty well. Isn’t a goal sneak or a great inside 50 tackler but he brings a fair bit to the table. And I want to see more of Chandler who has consistently good tackle numbers at Casey and some smarts. 

Small forwards are risk/reward draft picks. Unless you can get a great one then just keep picking them with later picks and develop them up. 

I’d rather use a list spot on bringing in a high upside speculative kid than the hope that Garlett turns back the clock. 

I like Shai Bolton as well. Think he will be ooc at end of this season  

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17 minutes ago, Redleg said:

It is difficult to analyse footballers, when you are sloshed on those cheap casks of wine you guzzle each night, before retiring to the dungeon.

I must confess my taste in Shiraz is directly related to the cash flow situation at The Manor

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6 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

I must confess my taste in Shiraz is directly related to the cash flow situation at The Manor

It is unfair that the dole has not kept pace with inflation.

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