POSTGAME: Rd 11 vs Adelaide

[Diamond_Jim 11,811]

52 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Things I liked:

• We lowered our eyes and had some ripper 'bullet-like' kicks i50 from Hibberd, Fritsch, Viney, Jones.
• A proportionately higher no of shots for goal were take from the centre i50 whereas in the past they have been taken out wide.  Helped our early accuracy.
• Some delightful goals were kicked:  Petracca from 50m, Oliver from near 50m, Weideman from near the boundary.
• We didn't let up.
• Weideman took really good contested marks.
• Most of all, we got our ferocity back!  Especially in the first half.
• That Tex had another bad game.

We lost but those improvements will help win quite a few more games this year.  A bit late for finals but am happy the season will end on a high.

I pretty well gave up on this season around 3-5 weeks ago so I am happy to agree that last night and the WCE game showed some improvement in the form of key players.

The continual injuries means we cannot get a settled line up.

Cannot understand why Preuss was not played last night allowing Max to be used as a shock trooper.

Hoping for some consistency from Weideman and a return to some form by Tom Mac.

The other is May and Lever returning... not because they will make that much difference in the short term but because the team has to get used to playing with them in the side.

Probably give the QB game a miss... there is something about losing to Collingwood that particularly depresses me...

[Demonsone 1,605]

Stop talking about our injuries excuses excuses 

17 more inside 50s

11 marks more inside  50s 

1.8 last qtr

They blew it just like the WC game!

 

 

[In Harmes Way 7,528]

How the hell did the umpires miss JKH getting pushed in the back/knocked over in the defensive goal square by Lynch, leading to a goal. I saw that from 3 states away. Bshit commentators called it fell over. Fellas - it’s not the radio, call it when it happens, including the crappy umpiring.

[chook fowler 18,277]

Just now, In Harmes Way said:

How the hell did the umpires miss JKH getting pushed in the back/knocked over in the defensive goal square by Lynch, leading to a goal. I saw that from 3 states away. Bshit commentators called it fell over. Fellas - it’s not the radio, call it when it happens, including the crappy umpiring.

Careful you’ll get suspended for 5 games

[In Harmes Way 7,528]

2 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

Careful you’ll get suspended for 5 games

My golf game has never looked better than this year chook. I won’t lose sleep.

[sue 8,441]

6 minutes ago, Demonsone said:

Stop talking about our injuries excuses excuses 

17 more inside 50s

11 marks more inside  50s 

1.8 last qtr

They blew it just like the WC game!

 

 

I see that differently.  Most of us expected to be clobbered in this game (except for a few who always have a gut feeling we will win - dunno what they are eating, but they need to see a quack).  So a team with a large number of marginal/inexperienced players with 2 late withdrawals who have hardly played together blew the game.   Some see excuses, I see reasons.

We finally looked like a decent team again, but blew it.  A lot better than most of the rest of this year. 

[Sorry kids 635]

Simon Goodwin Comment- " I do not want to take anything away from Adelaide, Adelaide were good'  I am not interested in hearing my coach say that about other teams. Just adds to the narrative that melbourne are too nice.

I wanted to hear him say, Professional forwards are paid to kick goals. OK they missed, it happens, but they need to work harder at goalkicking and we will give them that opportunity. First up. Sam and Smithy take  kicks from the same distance first thing Monday morning  and they do not stop until they get 8 out of 10, maybe 10 out of 10 thereby reinforcing their confidence.

[At the break of Gawn 3,519]

2 minutes ago, Sorry kids said:

Simon Goodwin Comment- " I do not want to take anything away from Adelaide, Adelaide were good'  I am not interested in hearing my coach say that about other teams. Just adds to the narrative that melbourne are too nice.

I wanted to hear him say, Professional forwards are paid to kick goals. OK they missed, it happens, but they need to work harder at goalkicking and we will give them that opportunity. First up. Sam and Smithy take  kicks from the same distance first thing Monday morning  and they do not stop until they get 8 out of 10, maybe 10 out of 10 thereby reinforcing their confidence.

That is an insult from Goody - Adelaide were horrible. We completely dominated them. They only really had two players stand up; Lynch and Crouch.

The misses were terrible, but they kicked 16.4 which means they had a lot of chances deep into the 50 which points to poor defence.

I agree our kicking for goal cost us the game - but we shouldn’t have let them kick 5 in a row - and a lot of those being from players like oMac losing a 1 on 1.

Who was playing on Lynch by the way?

That’s two times in a row he’s come back from injury and was BoG against us. If we had nullified him we would have been 50pts up in the 3rd qtr.

[ProperDee 1,698]

51 minutes ago, Big Carl said:

Goodwin is in his 5th year at MFC.

We are way past the “jury being out” on his coaching ability. Time for a total review of ALL coaches for 2020. The skills and forward coaches need to be shown the door for a start.

I guess I was hoping we’d turned the corner under his guidance last year. His blinkered vision and inflexibility of 2019, given some grace due to lack of personnel early on, has now become non-negotiable. 

[sue 8,441]

1 minute ago, ProperDee said:

I guess I was hoping we’d turned the corner under his guidance last year. His blinkered vision and inflexibility of 2019, given some grace due to lack of personnel early on, has now become non-negotiable. 

I don't have any particular enthusiasm for Goodwin and are far from convinced about him, but how does players dropping and missing sitters in Q4 make him "non-negotiable"?

[Smokey 4,137]

I thought we were excellent last night, shame about that last quarter though. 

The season is over, so getting upset over results doesn’t take precedence over acknowledging how much better we played for mine. We looked like the team of 2018 last night, and although a win would have been fitting, the vast improvement in our structures and connection were brilliant to witness. With our key ins coming back in, there’s no reason we won’t have a very strong second half of the season based on last nights performance.

Hope the club gets behind weed, I thought he played well and it’s really obvious the pressure is getting to him. Stay strong young man, you have a very bright future at the MFC. 

[PJ_12345 1,098]

1 minute ago, In Harmes Way said:

How the hell did the umpires miss JKH getting pushed in the back/knocked over in the defensive goal square by Lynch, leading to a goal. I saw that from 3 states away. Bshit commentators called it fell over. Fellas - it’s not the radio, call it when it happens, including the crappy umpiring.

I think it was Jenkins, who then handballed to Lynch for the goal.

The true crime was Fritsch not impacting the marking contest enough then not keeping up after Ellis-Yollmen, allowing the overlap and inside 50, then Omac for completely misreading the play and being turned out nearly 10m by Jenkins.

JKH weirdly backed up into Jenkins when in front and should have used his pace. Took an easy option for himself. I dont blame the umpires, and think it was the right call. JKH didnt take the game on and a bigger body came over him. Play on.

3 of our worst pressure players involved.

[Brownie 5,259]

1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Things I liked:

• We lowered our eyes and had some ripper 'bullet-like' kicks i50 from Hibberd, Fritsch, Viney, Jones.
• A proportionately higher no of shots for goal were take from the centre i50 whereas in the past they have been taken out wide.  Helped our early accuracy.
• Some delightful goals were kicked:  Petracca from 50m, Oliver from near 50m, Weideman from near the boundary.
• We didn't let up.
• Weideman took really good contested marks.
• Most of all, we got our ferocity back!  Especially in the first half.
• That Tex had another bad game.

We lost but those improvements will help win quite a few more games this year.  A bit late for finals but am happy the season will end on a high.

We did lower our eyes in the first half and then generally went back to bombing.

It does my head in.

Brayshaw had three good clearances from the centre bounce in the second half and just booted it forward without even looking.

They all came straight back out.

He's such a classy player usually. What's happened to him? 

 

[Redleg 37,655]

52 minutes ago, In Harmes Way said:

How the hell did the umpires miss JKH getting pushed in the back/knocked over in the defensive goal square by Lynch, leading to a goal. I saw that from 3 states away. Bshit commentators called it fell over. Fellas - it’s not the radio, call it when it happens, including the crappy umpiring.

The commentators like the whole footy world have been told not to highlight poor umpiring.

[John Demonic 4,809]

38 minutes ago, Sorry kids said:

Simon Goodwin Comment- " I do not want to take anything away from Adelaide, Adelaide were good'  I am not interested in hearing my coach say that about other teams. Just adds to the narrative that melbourne are too nice.

I wanted to hear him say, Professional forwards are paid to kick goals. OK they missed, it happens, but they need to work harder at goalkicking and we will give them that opportunity. First up. Sam and Smithy take  kicks from the same distance first thing Monday morning  and they do not stop until they get 8 out of 10, maybe 10 out of 10 thereby reinforcing their confidence.

He should've said: “Neither side showed anything today to suggest that they’re going be any threat come the end of the year – both sides have some work to do,” 

 

 

[Dee Zephyr 17,614]

Lost count as to how many times the commentators blurted out umps were ‘blindsided’ when missing obvious frees.

[loges 6,088]

What we need are players who actually want the ball in their hands to win the game, not ones who wet the bed when they get the opportunity. Until that happens we'll always lose in these types of finishes.

[Redleg 37,655]

1 hour ago, John Demonic said:

With all due respect my friend, i think you're stuck in 2018. There are no lower teams or soft games plural left to play. There is only Carlton.

And they will beat us kicking 14-6 to our 8-18.

[Redleg 37,655]

8 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Lost count as to how many times the commentators blurted out umps were ‘blindsided’ when missing obvious frees.

They have been instructed by the AFL to not rubbish the umpires.

[Demonsone 1,605]

59 minutes ago, sue said:

I see that differently.  Most of us expected to be clobbered in this game (except for a few who always have a gut feeling we will win - dunno what they are eating, but they need to see a quack).  So a team with a large number of marginal/inexperienced players with 2 late withdrawals who have hardly played together blew the game.   Some see excuses, I see reasons.

We finally looked like a decent team again, but blew it.  A lot better than most of the rest of this year. 

Love your optimistic approach...but as a club need to stop making excuses, change the culture, recruit better players so we can bat deep enough. We have too many VFL good players who can't play at AFL level long enough. We lack strong leadership presence on the field which should have dealt far better last night.

[John Crow Batty 8,257]

2 hours ago, ProperDee said:

I have read all the comments and agree with 99%. Aside from the bleeding obvious,  one poster hit the nail on the head - lack of on field leadership in that last quarter. Jordan Lewis’ generalship in the last would have been very useful. There was eff all leadership coming from the co-captains.

BTW, I’ve resigned from the Simon Goodwin fan club. The man is not a coaches bootlace. TMac to CHB in the last quarter was a gimme.

The leadership has been the common denominator to our inconsistency over the past few seasons. Jones might have been suitable for captaincy 5-6 seasons ago but now he is long past it. Seems everything at the club is revolving around keeping these two co-captains in their positions irrespective of the greater needs of the club. Jones shuffled around all over the ground to make him fit in somewhere to the detriment of other players and structures. Viney I suspect would never have been captain if his father was not at the club. Good B grader at best. Both very poor in last quarter when it counted. What is his fathers important job at the club exactly? Several generations of players have had stunted development. Too many new players start off promising then decline to journeymen status. I get the feeling nothing much is going to change whilst those two remain captains and certain “old boys” still remain at the club. We may rise again to be a threat but certainly to come crashing down again when success is near our grasp.

Edited June 2, 2019 by america de cali

[Deesprate 1,163]

2 hours ago, John Demonic said:

With all due respect my friend, i think you're stuck in 2018. There are no lower teams or soft games plural left to play. There is only Carlton.

Ha your right where second last bring on the Blues

[3Dee 1,153]

Goodwin has made us competitive with a bunch of VFL'ers. The season is officially cooked, the only thing now is to try and get May and Lever on the ground and gelling with Hibberd, Salem, Hore and eventually Nev.

Get in the bin 2019.

 

[Demonsone 1,605]

5 decades of failure! Not sure how I continue to follow this club. Since the the early 70s & yet to witness the ultimate success. History continues to repeat itself. My 21yo son hates me for making him follow the MfC as all of his mates have seen flags!

Edited June 2, 2019 by Demonsone

[old dee 22,924]

What a bunch of pessimists this morning. I got up and there was no news of May getting [censored] at a Richmond pub last night. A good start to Sunday next weekend we will beat the Pies you read it here first.