Soft Underbelly MUST become extinct.

[Dee1987 277]

Yeah when I heard upbeat in the rooms.... made the blood boil, precise reason this club is doomed.

[Jibroni 5,032]

If thats true then the Club seriously doesnt get it. We are the joke of the league right know and its f"n embarrising.

[SaberFang 7,151]

5 minutes ago, deefella said:

Yeah when I heard upbeat in the rooms.... made the blood boil, precise reason this club is doomed.

That is disgraceful if true. Where is this coming from?

Every Dees supporter would be feeling sick in the guts tonight, absolutely livid at what happened today, and against North, and Hawthorn, and Fremantle. The difference one lousy goal can make to an entire season.

How can you possibly be 'upbeat' about handing your entire fate to a team who can tank tomorrow's game and still finish minor premiers? FFS. Adelaide may as well not show up, what's it to them?

[kurtneverdied 244]

More do do with an extremely inconsistent mid-field that can just go missing.

Cannot ignore the fact we have improved. It's just not this year perhaps, it's frustrating. I want more. I guess we all want more.

I guess "Hop" is the word in my head until tomorrow night when we all know.

[ding 5,126]

If that is true (about the team being upbeat after todays loss) it would add to my [censored] FURY about this absolute insult of a loss. It would also go a long way to explaining why we continue to find ways to fall over at important hurdles.

Not enough of the players care. MFC is a team made up of Jack Watts types who treat it like a game, and not something that means more. Listening to Tysons interview post game made me want to wretch. Zero hurt on display.... Zero.

I want a team who, TO A  MAN, hurt after a loss.

22 Jack Vineys would be sweet.

 

Edited August 26, 2017 by ding

[1 red eye 1 blue eye 771]

Upbeat in the rooms, where did you hear that?

 If you saw the after game vision in the rooms they were light years off upbeat.

[Sir Why You Little 37,241]

1 minute ago, 1 red eye 1 blue eye said:

Upbeat in the rooms, where did you hear that?

 If you saw the after game vision in the rooms they were light years off upbeat.

It can't be true. 

[kurtneverdied 244]

7 minutes ago, 1 red eye 1 blue eye said:

Upbeat in the rooms, where did you hear that?

 If you saw the after game vision in the rooms they were light years off upbeat.

Yes everyone was sitting back against the walls looking like crying except Petracca who was into the lollies.

[praha 11,240]

From the AFL website:

"Despite blowing a golden chance to put an exclamation point on a thoroughly encouraging season and seal a finals berth – the first since 2006 – the mood was light and, well, kind of positive after the 16-point loss to Collingwood. "

"...some club insiders dared to believe a loss could turn out to be a positive, as it would increase the chances of a Port Adelaide at Adelaide Oval fixture, rather than having to face the finals-hardened Swans in Sydney. "

[Sir Why You Little 37,241]

1 minute ago, praha said:

From the AFL website:

"Despite blowing a golden chance to put an exclamation point on a thoroughly encouraging season and seal a finals berth – the first since 2006 – the mood was light and, well, kind of positive after the 16-point loss to Collingwood. "

"...some club insiders dared to believe a loss could turn out to be a positive, as it would increase the chances of a Port Adelaide at Adelaide Oval fixture, rather than having to face the finals-hardened Swans in Sydney. "

Unbelievable....

[DubDee 26,191]

The lads in the rooms from the vision looked fkin gutted. Head in hands devastated. 

Story is full of sht

Trac was trying to get his mates to keep their heads up

[SaberFang 7,151]

4 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Unbelievable....

It seems too ridiculous to be true. Makes me want us to miss finals just to prove a point. And it's idiotic anyway -- Richmond could easily lose tomorrow and end up pushing Sydney to 5th, making the entire point moot.

But Melbourne's the team that never learns from their mistakes, so what difference would it make?

[Sir Why You Little 37,241]

1 minute ago, SaberFang said:

It seems too ridiculous to be true. Makes me want us to miss finals just to prove a point. And it's idiotic anyway -- Richmond could easily lose tomorrow and end up pushing Sydney to 5th, making the entire point moot.

But Melbourne's the team that never learns from their mistakes, so what difference would it make?

It's out of my control. I am just disappointed i paid for next years Membership last week...

club doesn't deserve money right now

[Pates 9,661]

1 hour ago, praha said:

Today was the kind of game loser clubs lose. We're the new Richmond. It made me cringe when I heard they were upbeat in the rooms. You just got pansied by a team with nothing to play with and you're upbeat? Get [censored]!

I can't possibly fathom there being any upbeat attitude in the rooms after today. They should all have been hurting and pi55ed off, forgetting results to come they should've looked at today as their ticket to the finals. I'd true that there was still an upbeat feeling then all involve should have a good hard look at themselves  

I agree with your assessment that we are the new Richmond. Richmond were the kings at building their fans up only to disappoint them when it really counted. Finishing 9th would be extremely appropriate for us. 

[david_neitz_is_my_dad 4,084]

1 hour ago, deefella said:

Yeah when I heard upbeat in the rooms.... made the blood boil, precise reason this club is doomed.

The footage i saw was players sitting against the wall dejected with Petracca walking around and tapping each one on the head

[Watts Jurrah Dunn? 735]

Very easy to look dejected and shattered in the rooms. 

Drop the charades and just start showing up for 2 hours each weekend you p155 weak individuals. 

[bing181 9,348]

2 hours ago, Pates said:

I can't possibly fathom there being any upbeat attitude in the rooms after today.

Read the story. It was talking about the atmosphere around the rooms with kids, families, fans etc., almost juxtaposing that with how the players were. They refer to Viney and his " dejected teammates, who emerged from behind closed doors" etc. etc. not to mention unnamed "club officials" who were trying to put a positive spin on it.

From what I saw, the players looked gutted (as above). As Nathan Jones said "I feel sick in the stomach".

But heh, carry on wrist-slashing.

Edited August 26, 2017 by bing181

[Wells 11 5,440]

6 hours ago, deefella said:

Worst part about this Soft Underbelly, we had a finals spot on the line , Collingwood had nothing really to play for. Infuriates all of us

which is why coming out and being blown away in the intensity stakes in the  first qtr ( 8 tackles v 14) really needs to be looked at. Goody would have hated that. They needed to come out breathing fire in a game like that and I reckon, behind the scenes, here will be some real questions asked. 

[Lucifers Hero 40,439]

7 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

Of course we need to fix it - but then, so do Essendon, West Coast, St. Kilda, Port...

So many are in the same basket we are in.  We are a middle of the road side looking to push further up the ladder with consistent performances, and to do so we need to become a side that is mentally tough.  But we aren't the only ones.

 

7 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

And you could find plenty of other clubs doing the same thing over the years.  Big deal.

I love how you like to go alllllll the way back to '71.  Why not go all the way back to the '30s?  Maybe even our first season in 1897?

Who gives a shiiit about other clubs!  I only care about Melbourne. 

And wheeling out positive gobbledygook about other basket cases does nothing to enhance our predicament.   We are in a basket all of our own and have been there longer than anyone else and we seem incapable of learning from our own mistakes. 

And please, don't give me the 'how much we have improved this season' stuff.  Yesterday showed we have not improved what really counts: playing four quarters of committed football and we have not done it once all year.

Sometimes it is wise to park your glass half full, mfc can do no wrong, pollyannaism, at least for a day or two after such a shattering performance.  It wasn't just the loss that hurt it was how we lost! 

Maybe you are insulated from the pain because you didn't see the game - well if you didn't see it, stop the patronising.

Edited August 26, 2017 by Lucifer's Hero

[bing181 9,348]

39 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Sometimes it is wise to park your glass half full, mfc can do no wrong, pollyannaism, at least for a day or two after such a shattering performance.

This is just OTT hyperbole. Last I looked there were at least 50 shades in-between black (MFC can do no right) and white (MFC can do no wrong). Just because some of us aren't slashing our wrists ...

Have said it before here: I don't know how some of you get through the day.

[The heart beats true 18,178]

The wrist slashing on here is making me laugh.

Stop talking up your own 'pain' like it's a badge of honour. The players care. Watch Goodwins press conference, and instead of getting angry about his tone, listen to what he actually says. He talks about habits. We are a developing side, who need to continue to develop elite habits. Its a work in progress.

Anyone watch the Suns game last night? That was us 3 years ago, and if you think you can turn that ship around in 15 games then you don't understand how hard the competition is.

[Lucifers Hero 40,439]

9 minutes ago, bing181 said:

This is just OTT hyperbole. Last I looked there were at least 50 shades in-between black (MFC can do no right) and white (MFC can do no wrong). Just because some of us aren't slashing our wrists ...

Have said it before here: I don't know how some of you get through the day.

Thank you for taking a sentence out of context to suit your stand!  But you left out the important bit:  It wasn't just the loss that hurt it was how we lost! 

If anyone saw the game they wouldn't be excusing it with 'mfc are in the same basket as other clubs'.

[Dee1987 277]

57 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

The wrist slashing on here is making me laugh.

Stop talking up your own 'pain' like it's a badge of honour. The players care. Watch Goodwins press conference, and instead of getting angry about his tone, listen to what he actually says. He talks about habits. We are a developing side, who need to continue to develop elite habits. Its a work in progress.

Anyone watch the Suns game last night? That was us 3 years ago, and if you think you can turn that ship around in 15 games then you don't understand how hard the competition is.

The other side to this is, is our list overrated and not as good as some people think, we have a lot of butchers in the side. It's seems a long and painful process to fix this mob.

Get real angry after a loss as the players are coming off our fans are clapping, they don't deserve that we should show more disappointment. We really aren't still very much a basket case, laughing stock and the brunt of everyone's jokes. SOMETHING MUST CHANGE.

[brendan 3,439]

I'm still angry about that 1st quarter, what did they lay like 3 tackles that's just a disgraceful effort, biggest game for a long time and they had no effort, if we make finals I expect the game to be over by quarter time if they roll up with that attitude again 

[Demon17 5,211]

9 hours ago, deefella said:

I have Ranted many times about this club, I only do it because it want success like the rest of us but seriously the list/club must once and for all grow a set.

Arent we all tired of being the brunt of all opposition supporters jokes even if we as supporters don't mouth off about our club since we have nothing to because the club gives us nothing! We/ others can go on about our supposed "young list" that maybe "tired"?..... So are 17 other clubs at this stage of the season! This year has been a failure! Forget... "let's just see what happens with Adelaide v Eagles, I'm treating it as another wasted year of, shoulda, coulda, woulda? Even if we do make it I doubt we will go far, we are here to win finals and win the big one. 

Even the bombers, are hungrier than we are! Stand for something MFC.

 

I hear all the comments on this thread and agree but am confused now about a club that heroically beat  Adelaide away, West Coast away, Port, last years premiers and the saints twice - yet produced yesterdays effort.  The recent form lines against north and Brisbane shows they were definitely off the boil and yesterday was a real test. Gave the pies 7 goals starts and got to 8 points down.???

I'm still an optimist but how does this fluctuation happen. I was at the Adelaide oval it I can't believe the above successful games were aberrations.

Bring back Frost BTW.

Any form of enlightenment welcomed.