Post Match Discussion - Round 12

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Was watching at the ground today with an Essendon fan who used to work at the Bombers in the 80's and 90's.  He made an interesting comment about Oscar.  He said his development curve is very similar to a former Bomber premiership player in Kevin Walsh.  Gifted games early in his career because Sheedy saw something in him; lampooned and ridiculed by fans for his first three or four seasons; by the time he hit about 50-60 games he was really finding his feet.  Ended up a dual premiership player, multiple state player and All Australian.  I think Oscar showed today in the second half that he can be a very good AFL player.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

29 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Petracca stays on his feet,

Petracca stays on his feet,

Petracca stays on his feet....we've needed somebody like that for a long time..

Exactly, Russell Robertson was the worst at this and we have struggled in that regard ever since.

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Nice stat time:  Jeremy Howe has played in nine Melbourne v Collingwood games for ONE win.

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26 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Omac went from playing like Tom Gillies in the 1st half to Matty Scarlett in the 2nd half. What a turn around, i was very critical of him.

Harmes and Jetta won some critical one on ones that got it going forward for us.

Tracca loves a big stage as does Watts. How many times has Watts kicked clutch goals in close games??

Watts - Seriously underrated with the amount he does both forward and defensively. Has won us games both ends, numerous numerous times. He needs a standing ovation from Demonlanders...perhaps we can podcast this?

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Just now, warren dean said:

Was watching at the ground today with an Essendon fan who used to work at the Bombers in the 80's and 90's.  He made an interesting comment about Oscar.  He said his development curve is very similar to a former Bomber premiership player in Kevin Walsh.  Gifted games early in his career because Sheedy saw something in him; lampooned and ridiculed by fans for his first three or four seasons; by the time he hit about 50-60 games he was really finding his feet.  Ended up a dual premiership player, multiple state player and All Australian.  I think Oscar showed today in the second half that he can be a very good AFL player.

I clicked "like" - liked what you said other than the fact that you were actually talking to an Essendon fan ?

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48 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Btw... what's the go with March ??

Because every game pretty much feels the same this season with a few slightly different final-quarter outcomes - may as well merge the the threads into a giant Post-March Discussion. (Rhetorical: is there a match yet where we haven't been down by exactly four-to-five goals at some stage? ).

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Hop on the Collingwood bigfooty board if in need of a laugh

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The noise of the crowd in those final minutes was just incredible. 

And the anticipation of watching Watts run the length of the ground, and then the ecstasy when he calmly slotted it, is everything I love about sport and football. 

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1 hour ago, Win4theages said:

Yes we won I'm over the moon don't get me wrong but couldn't help but notice that once we gained the ascendency we blazed away too often instead of lowering our eyes to a forward leading targets. This in my opinion is whats holding us back to taking a massive step forward to the dizzy heights of the ladder.

Hard when you don't have marking targets up forward. I thought we've done exceptional in the first half of the season considering our outs. 

Collingwood applied lots of pressure on the ball carrier too, they were very good today make no mistake.

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6 minutes ago, Danelska said:

Watts - Seriously underrated with the amount he does both forward and defensively. Has won us games both ends, numerous numerous times. He needs a standing ovation from Demonlanders...perhaps we can podcast this?

Absolutely. There's a lot Jack does that I don't think the average fan notices. I have a feeling it was against the Gold Coast last year where he kicked the goal to get us in front and then took the contested mark in defence at the end. 

Riewoldt is a fantastic player, but I feel that he's emulating Nick's style of football with great athleticism. His shot for goal he hit the post with came after big time running. Credit to the Seven commentator (can't remember who) but he called it because of his hard running, and when he had a shot where didn't have to run so hard for he nailed it. In fact I noticed when he kicked that goal in the 3rd he was really trying to gee up with teammates. 

I think there's a lot of love for Jack at the club.

Edited June 12, 2017 by Pates

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1 hour ago, deejammin' said:

To all those in this thread going on about the umpiring I recommend you go back and watch these moments:

Early last qtr Collingwood (Howe?) player takes possession at the top of our goalsquare runs, does a don't argue, gets tackled, tries to kick, misses ball, definite holding the ball to Melbourne, not paid, certain goal missed.

Treloar taken by Viney in a tackle drops ball on ground, no disposal, HTB missed, picked up by Collingwood goes inside for Collingwood goal.

Levi Greenwood drops a mark in the centre square, not infringed, tackled properly by Viney, ball heading forward for Melbourne, either the dropped mark or a free paid and a FIFTY paid to Collingwood. Pies score when Dees would've had a certain score.

First quarter Watts taken out in a marking contest on the Wing, pies player takes the ball while Scharenberg barrels him over with what looked like a tackle in a marking contest without his eyes on the ball. Pies goal, no free for Melbourne. 

There were many other holding the ball frees missed for us, soft high tackles paid to them at crucial moments and many other moments.

The Hibberd and Hunt ones should've been HTB, but they missed plenty to us as well. Also both managed to hit the ball so the argument is whether they threw it first and that has barely been paid for 5 weeks. Should've been HTB and we got the rub of the green on those two but so did they, many times, especially in the first half.

It was a magnificent gutsy win and to claim the umpires won it for us is ludicrous.

great game Dees! Being on Gawn, Hogan and the doggies!!!

Edit: Not to mention Oscar perfectly bodying a contested mark on the wing to have it reversed then a pies player does the exact same thing in our forward fifty.. NO FREE!!

Agreed mate, they were scragging and blocking us out if marking contests all day too. Don't get sucked in by the Pies whingefest the umps were pretty even all day.

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2 minutes ago, Pates said:

Absolutely. There's a lot Jack does that I don't think the average fan notices. I have a feeling it was against the Gold Coast last year where he kicked the goal to get us in front and then took the contested mark in defence at the end. 

Riewoldt is a fantastic player, but I feel that he's emulating Nick's style of football with great athleticism. His shot for goal he hit the post with came after big time running. Credit to the Seven commentator (can't remember who) but he called it because of his hard running, and when he had a shot where didn't have to run so hard for he nailed it. If fact I noticed when he kicked that goal in the 3rd he was really trying to gee up with teammates. 

I think there's a lot of love for Jack at the club.

Yes internally, I'm sure there are some flogs on this forum who will always see Jack unfashionable and pick holes in him... much like OMac

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Just got home from the game

Petracca  came of age today and played a blinder. He showed everyone just how classy he can be. Just hope he keeps it up. 

Watts there is no one I rather have the football than him. he is composed and rarely wastes it. When he ran into score the sealer he did it calmy and got the job done. Also he had the football smarts to stand on the goal line and thank god he did to touch that ball. By the way why did the pies boo him? also did any one else notice the magpie fans boo a lot? 

Who was on Treloar? He seemed to just run around on his own all day but I thought we nullified Pendles and Sidebottom didnt have a bigger impact in the 2nd half.

also someone else raised it on here but the pies had it ot easy when they were kicking out from our behinds. How come we dont have a clear plan yet? Rawlings has been with us for over 5 years now.  Work something out. 

But in the 2nd half a lot of players stepped up. Viney got into the game, O mac played a lot better and we stopped handpassing and actually kicked it. I didnt panic at 1/2 time because I knew we could play better. 

Oh and to the pies fans whinging about the umpiring, both teams were on the end of bad decisions and you were 28 points up and didnt go on with it. 

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11 minutes ago, DemonLad5 said:

Hop on the Collingwood bigfooty board if in need of a laugh

I already did and surprisingly, the locals didn't seem to like it. 

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Impressive win given many players down on form - Lewis, Vince, Harmes, Viney - but still found a way. Very satisfying 

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It's Watt's fault !!

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56 minutes ago, pineapple dee said:

Just went to the Collingwood big Footy post-mortem thread. Highly entertaining !  I thought I would make a small, sensitive comment for their edification.   I said " Collingwood played well today. They were just outclassed."  

They have taken in good spirits. Except the one who replied " **** off back to the snow muppet "  ⛷

Should've told him it beats the heck out of waiting in line at Centrelink for his fortnightly dole check! 

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1 hour ago, Franky_31 said:

We could have easily lost today with different umpiring decisions and only Demonland would notice.

I hate reading this rubbish. Some of you people need to take a look at yourselves.

We pulled this back and it had nothing to do with the umpires. We have been umpired out of games so many times this year, all I can say about today is that we had a fairly even share of both good and bad calls.

Jack Watts... wow! I love it when Jack plays like that, he owned that goal from the second he took it forward of the wing. I screamed my heart out, I don't remember loosing it like that for quite some time.

Pies fans, Jesus. Calling ball before a player even takes possession, it beggars belief. What a pack of whingers, makes beating them all the sweeter. 

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Already watching the replay.  Wont be the last time this week.

Edited June 12, 2017 by Petraccattack

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I thought we had a good run from the umps personally. Couldn't give a [censored] though, suck eggs Collingwood.

I have watched my fair share of games where I thought the umps cost us the game, such as vs North in Tassie last year, so I'm not complaining about today.

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Thought Melksham played crap but didn't realise he tagged Pendlebury and kept him pretty quiet. Well done

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Four points was the difference in more ways than one.

The best part of the win was we are now in the eight, 6 and 5 is a lot better than 5 and 6 in such a competitive season.

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Alan Richardson called Petracca "scary" on 360. 

I chuckled. 

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Thought we were a big chance at 3/4 time several pies players with hands on knees sucking air 

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Just now, Deestroy All said:

Alan Richardson called Petracca "scary" on 360. 

I chuckled. 

You could tell how reluctant he was to praise him