Welcome to Demonland: Jake Lever

[Bates Mate 3,941]

3 minutes ago, mauriesy said:

Gotta love SEN. Four hours ago he's bound for Melbourne, then 30 minutes ago he's a certainty for Collingwood.

yep and it will be their headline news for the next 24 hours and be topic on their talk back , sen commentator says this blah blah blah sell generated news getting worse and worse that station

[Chris 2,892]

36 minutes ago, binman said:

It seems clear that if he leaves he is coming home to Vic. Lucifer's Hero makes a good point about Lynch ending up staying at the Crows despite many saying him leaving was a fait accompli.  So despite the loud jungle drums it its not a done deal he is leaving the crows. But jeez if you putting a bet on it you'd land on him going.

If the last point is true surely the dees would be a more attractive option than either the dogs or pies (who seem to be the other key suitors)  given we are close to our premiership window. Dogs have had their flag and will struggle to get another any time soon. Who knows how far away the pies are but they have a fair bit of rebuilding to do and the situation with Buckley and the review wouldn't make a potential recruit very comfortable.

I agree with those that say we shouldn't be paying too much above market rate. and i doubt we will, so the pies might well out bid us. We have a range of other needs, in particular at least one more mid who is an elite user of the ball and a really good second ruck option as Gawn going down exposed our vulnerability in this area (king might come good, but seems a fair way away).

But in addition to his ability to play the intercept role really well and to fit into our system i like lever's ball use. Not sure if it is elite but not far off. Also goody values flexibility and i reckon Lever with his marking ability could thrive up forward when/if needed and perhaps also as an occasional ruckman. 

It wasn't so much Max going down that exposed us, it was Spencer! No idea how King is going but we also have Filipovic who is a few years off yet. If we can keep Spencer around until Filipovic is ready then we should be fine. The chances of loosing two ruckmen is pretty low, for it to happen twice would be astonishing. 

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37 minutes ago, BAMF said:

Also from SEN. Lever linked to Pies.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2017/08/02/pies-defensive-prayers-to-be-answered/

It should be noted two thirds of the press had Hogan definitely going back to WA

[CityDee 738]

Trenners and a pick sign on Jakey

[binman 38,997]

25 minutes ago, Chris said:

It wasn't so much Max going down that exposed us, it was Spencer! No idea how King is going but we also have Filipovic who is a few years off yet. If we can keep Spencer around until Filipovic is ready then we should be fine. The chances of loosing two ruckmen is pretty low, for it to happen twice would be astonishing. 

Agree, to an extent. We were bloody unlucky that is for sure. But despite encouraging signs at the beginning of the season i still have doubts about spencer. Also ideally we have a player who less a straight back up but also can sometimes play in the same side as gawn. It would have to be a pretty mobile player who can play in various positions. King might fit this bill. But i can't see Gawn and Spencer ever playing together. 

But you're probably right - perhaps we can cover it until Flip and king come on.

Edited August 2, 2017 by binman

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

 
http://m.afl.com.au/news/2017-08-02/all-silent-on-leverdemons-trade-speculation

Already my new fav MFC player

Edited August 2, 2017 by stevethemanjordan

[What 18,810]

A star key backman is the final piece of the puzzle for us.  This would be huge.

MFC 2017 1st round pick +  MFC 2018 1st round pick

for

Jake Lever and Adelaides 2017 2nd rounder

 

Id then like to see us trade back into the first round as I feel sorry for Jason Taylor who is being starved of 1st rounders to weave his magic with on draft day.

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

SEN also reporting Lever talking to Melbourne officials..

[danielE288 622]

Exciting stuff.

[Sir Why You Little 34,762]

13 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:

SEN also reporting Lever talking to Melbourne officials..

I heard a whisper of this a few months back, but had no solid source. So i didn't post anything.  

Will be great if he is running off half back next season

[double dee 27]

They will surely want a player. Need to trade for Lever and as an exciting young talent surely they would expect something of similar ilk back. They need mids and thats what we have, remember they wanted gibbs last year. Why are people assuming this will get done with picks?

Edited August 2, 2017 by double dee

[Grimes Times 1,278]

26 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

A star key backman is the final piece of the puzzle for us.  This would be huge.

MFC 2017 1st round pick +  MFC 2018 1st round pick

for

Jake Lever and Adelaides 2017 2nd rounder

 

Id then like to see us trade back into the first round as I feel sorry for Jason Taylor who is being starved of 1st rounders to weave his magic with on draft day.

Thats the deal that I could see getting it done but Id go for the 2018 2nd rounder back. Next year draft a lot stronger than this year. The 2nd round this year not going to be much quality available.

Edited August 2, 2017 by Grimes Times

[Garbo 1,347]

29 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

A star key backman is the final piece of the puzzle for us.  This would be huge.

MFC 2017 1st round pick +  MFC 2018 1st round pick

for

Jake Lever and Adelaides 2017 2nd rounder

 

Id then like to see us trade back into the first round as I feel sorry for Jason Taylor who is being starved of 1st rounders to weave his magic with on draft day.

Don't think the price will be that steep, something like ANB (from SA out of contract) and our 2nd rounder would get the deal done.

Edited August 2, 2017 by Garbo

[McQueen 17,864]

1 hour ago, stevethemanjordan said:

 
http://m.afl.com.au/news/2017-08-02/all-silent-on-leverdemons-trade-speculation

Already my new fav MFC player

Sheez, mate.

If this doesn't come off you're going to come down hard.

[Thrice 216]

27 minutes ago, Garbo said:

Don't think the price will be that steep, something like ANB (from SA out of contract) and our 2nd rounder would get the deal done.

I reckon Frost is part of the deal. It's the only plausible reason he would have put contract negotiations on hold till the end of the season.

Frost, who would be around the mark of their best 22 without Lever, and out first round pick this year would easily get it done.

[Ted Lasso 17,039]

I think they'll want a pick and a player. 

And I doubt we'll be keen to ship off both first rounders 

2017 second rounder, 2018 first rounder and Alex Neal bullen 

[JV7 2,339]

Adelaide will want a midfielder back because that's their one deficiency & our 1st round pick. Not sure ANB fits the bill the midfielder they'd want... Best case might be to get Carlton involved with Gibbs somehow

Edited August 2, 2017 by JV7

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,370]

Could Dom Tyson be in the mix here?

Crows need more midfield options - albeit one that doesn't turn the ball over as much.

And as others have mentioned, ANB could be a sweetener to a first round draft pick. Has he even signed for us next year?

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,370]

4 minutes ago, JV7 said:

Best case might be to get Carlton involved with Gibbs somehow

Well Carlton were willing to offer JFK a 3 year contract either last year or the year before, so perhaps Carlton will eventually get their man.

Edited August 2, 2017 by Bring-Back-Powell

[Garbo 1,347]

19 minutes ago, Abe said:

I think they'll want a pick and a player. 

And I doubt we'll be keen to ship off both first rounders 

2017 second rounder, 2018 first rounder and Alex Neal bullen 

Beggars can't be choosers, if he nominates us then we would be Crazy to give up a 1st 2nd and a best 22 up and coming player. I wouldn't be at all surprised if ANB took a similar trajectory to what matt crouch has this year next year. This trade doesn't have to be a win-win, the time of dees fighting for scraps from other teams needs to end and part of been a destination club is bending the other teams over the proverbial barrel at trade time.

It's also important in the long run we keep our first round picks so as we can continue draft high quality players, we are still a long way from the top and more than 1 player from  been a flag contender, selling the farm is not the smart way forward at this point

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

Dont go to the Pies Jake.....come and play at a more successful club.

[The team we love 416]

6 hours ago, Bates Mate said:

doubt he met with MFC maybe his manager but I thought it was against the rules to meet in season

 

 

He can meet but can't sign. 

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1 hour ago, Thrice said:

I reckon Frost is part of the deal. It's the only plausible reason he would have put contract negotiations on hold till the end of the season.

Frost, who would be around the mark of their best 22 without Lever, and out first round pick this year would easily get it done.

Who is our defensive depth next year in case of injury or if TMAC stays fwd? Who helps Lever & Omac? Garland ? 

Edited August 2, 2017 by DominatrixTyson

[Dee tention 611]

Joel Smith and I believe Watts can be a very good back man. 

Watts should have played spare man back v North last week instead of Lewis. I thought the coachs would have got that right but got it totally wrong. Watts is tall, a good read of play and foot disposal is A1. I think Watts can play a very similiar role to Jack Gunston. Gunston has been a gun down back. I suppose if we trade for Lever this will be his role...

[Melbournepotter 264]

Playing Devil's advocate....I don't want to lose him but...would you trade Weideman to Collingwood (probably looking for a tall forward) for draft pick + possible player for on-forwarding to Adelaide for Lever ?    We already have Watts, McDonald and Hogan as talls (when all fit) and we could also look at Omac going forward if Lever comes in.   It looks worse when on paper, as I think Weideman will develop into a very good player...