Michael Hibberd and Michael Hurley

[monoccular 17,432]

On 8 July 2016 at 11:17 PM, RalphiusMaximus said:

Did you note the beard? 

Nowhere near as good as Max's

On 12 July 2016 at 9:42 PM, faultydet said:

Hahaha.

What about what the WORLD ANTI DOPING AGENCY said??????????

I dont read the herald sun, at all, ever.

And you feel sorry for them? Wow, words fail me. They deserve ZERO sympathy. They only deserve to be raped of their players.

faulty (?Basil?) -- I suspect it is the second part of "rape and pillage" you mean. Not sure one can be "raped of" anything.  

[Lucifers Hero 39,858]

That interview has reminded me of Melksham.  I just hope he turns out to be a decent player, especially as we gave him a 4 year contract which almost no-one has had before at mfc.  Atm only Jones and Viney have that and they are a trillion classes above.

If we get Hibberd I hope it is not for 4 years as a poster suggested earlier -  longer term contracts should be reserved for top players and neither Melksham nor Hibberd are that imo.  If I recall correctly, EFC was/is offering them 2? 

I would prefer players come in on our 'usual' contract of 2 or 3 years until they prove themselves at our club. 

We are not a destination club yet but surely we have passed the point where we have to offer inducements (more money, longer contracts) to come to us especially if they are B players at best.

[jackaub 1,402]

9 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

I think it was my post that suggested that could be the case so I shall elaborate a little.  I heard an interview with Goodwin during last year's he trade period and our interest in Melksham.  Goodwin was asked whether this was his 'captains choice' (a phrase somewhat in vogue last year).  He deftly side-stepped the question and waffled on about the need for a backman etc.  I had the impression it was his 'captains choice' hence my phrase about 'pulling rank'. 

Didn't mean to start a rumour - just clarifying how he sounded to me.

Realistically, tho it wouldn't be the first time a coach has exercised his 'captains choice' - it happens all the time. 

Well I hope it doesnt appear  happen twice in relation to Hibberd. If he is everything we want to fill a need and the footy department are in total agreement then fine.It just seems to me he isn't as good as he was 3 years ago circumstances accepted.

[faultydet 7,594]

26 minutes ago, monoccular said:

Nowhere near as good as Max's

faulty (?Basil?) -- I suspect it is the second part of "rape and pillage" you mean. Not sure one can be "raped of" anything.  

Yep, that's it. Just lazy, is all......

[demon3165 2,719]

Roos philosophy trade for players that you want for a particular job Ted Richards etc the swans and now the hawks do that and it seems to work out ok  maybe Goodwin has learn t from that.

[faultydet 7,594]

23 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

Roos philosophy trade for players that you want for a particular job Ted Richards etc the swans and now the hawks do that and it seems to work out ok  maybe Goodwin has learn t from that.

Roos was always said to have thought draft picks were over rated, and that he was happy to trade for a known quantity.
Seems in this case that Hibberd is the latest target. He certainly fills a gap in our list, and who isn't happy seeing a more physical Dees now?

 

[Demons rising 52]

interesting article by David Zakaharis on afl.

states he is worried he is leaving but then states as he is contracted he must seek a trade .

Sounds like he is flagging Essendon  official position which seems to be at variance with the thought they can walk 

[Chris 2,892]

13 hours ago, braysure said:

No i'm just not and idiot and reasonable. I also have connections to Essendon.

So you have connections to Essendon, enough connections to know that Hibberd isn't leaving, yet you have no idea what the players took. Surely if you have connections then the first question to ask is 'what did the players take'!

For me your opinion goes one of two ways, either you do have connections and you are right about Hibberd, or you have no connections as you don't know what the players took. Although there is a third possibility, you do have connections and you have asked what the players took but wont say because either it was TB4, or you aren't silly enough to buy into the 'it was all fine, it was thymomodulin, it was all cleared, nothing to see here' baloney that the club has been spouting for the last few years. 

[faultydet 7,594]

32 minutes ago, Chris said:

So you have connections to Essendon, enough connections to know that Hibberd isn't leaving, yet you have no idea what the players took. Surely if you have connections then the first question to ask is 'what did the players take'!

For me your opinion goes one of two ways, either you do have connections and you are right about Hibberd, or you have no connections as you don't know what the players took. Although there is a third possibility, you do have connections and you have asked what the players took but wont say because either it was TB4, or you aren't silly enough to buy into the 'it was all fine, it was thymomodulin, it was all cleared, nothing to see here' baloney that the club has been spouting for the last few years. 

Ignore it.

 

Sanity prevails.

[—coach— 3,496]

3 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

I think it was my post that suggested that could be the case so I shall elaborate a little.  I heard an interview with Goodwin during last year's trade period and our interest in Melksham.  Goodwin was asked whether this was his 'captains choice' (a phrase somewhat in vogue last year).  He deftly side-stepped the question and waffled on about the need for a backman etc.  I had the impression it was his 'captains choice' hence my phrase about 'pulling rank'. 

Didn't mean to start a rumour so clarifying how he sounded to me.

Realistically, tho it wouldn't be the first time a coach has exercised his 'captains choice' - it happens all the time. 

Neild - Toumpas - Wines, let us never speak of that day again! And don't mention it around Todd Viney!

[Older demon 2,741]

I am surprised in the clubs interest in Hibberd. I base this on this years rookies, Wagner and White who have both surprised me albeit in a good way. Wagner is poised takes a good overhead mark is a left footer and can only improve. White is similar in that he is a raking left footy and comes with a great rap from Macca who will tell anyone he speaks to that Whitey is a keeper. I thought both would be elevated to the senior list depending on who goes.

[jnrmac 20,095]

We are getting a lot of left footers.....just sayin.....

 

A bit like the Hawks of a few years ago....

[faultydet 7,594]

17 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

We are getting a lot of left footers.....just sayin.....

 

A bit like the Hawks of a few years ago....

Tommy Bugg.

Jack Viney.

Dom Tyson

Ben Kennedy.

 

No laser feet in that lot.

[daisycutter 29,616]

1 minute ago, faultydet said:

Tommy Bugg.

Jack Viney.

Dom Tyson

Ben Kennedy.

 

No laser feet in that lot.

wagner

white

kent

probably more i can't think of straight away

[faultydet 7,594]

3 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

wagner

white

kent

probably more i can't think of straight away

Not nearly enough to draw comparisons to the dawks though, to be fair.

 

Still, looking forward to Salem using his skills off a wing. The forwards would be licking their lips.

[Go the Biff 3,434]

26 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

We are getting a lot of left footers.....just sayin.....

 

A bit like the Hawks of a few years ago....

 

We have to many left footers with no right side whatsoever. And it's costing us out on the ground.

Not sure we need another one

[GawnWithTheWind 604]

Grimes for Hibberd?

Its not fair, as Hib is the better player, but under the circumstances...

[Ethan Tremblay 30,861]

5 minutes ago, GawnWithTheWind said:

Grimes for Hibberd?

Its not fair, as Hib is the better player, but under the circumstances...

Essendon won't care about the circumstances though. 

[Demons11 7,028]

14 hours ago, jnrmac said:

$300k a year? You would have to be kidding. He'll walk in anywhere at $500k a year.

It think he may be saying 1.2 a year 

Edited July 14, 2016 by Demons11

[braysure 17]

None of what I have said is speculation or guesswork. I'm just relaying what I get told from Essendon coterie members and some bloke that is kind of tall, wears glasses, nearly played 400 games for Essendon and now works there. He isn't that important though.. he doesn't know much.

[mo64 5,875]

25 minutes ago, braysure said:

None of what I have said is speculation or guesswork. I'm just relaying what I get told from Essendon coterie members and some bloke that is kind of tall, wears glasses, nearly played 400 games for Essendon and now works there. He isn't that important though.. he doesn't know much.

I wouldn't concern myself braysure. The responses you are getting are pretty stock standard here.

If you had of posted that your source said that Hurley is likely to come to Melbourne. you would have received a 100 likes and lauded as an oracle. Post anything to the contrary, and you'll get accused of being a troll.

How's Simon going BTW? 

[braysure 17]

2 minutes ago, mo64 said:

I wouldn't concern myself braysure. The responses you are getting are pretty stock standard here.

If you had of posted that your source said that Hurley is likely to come to Melbourne. you would have received a 100 likes and lauded as an oracle. Post anything to the contrary, and you'll get accused of being a troll.

How's Simon going BTW? 

Well said mo64.. very true. Doin just fine.

[Dante 2,739]

1 hour ago, braysure said:

None of what I have said is speculation or guesswork. I'm just relaying what I get told from Essendon coterie members and some bloke that is kind of tall, wears glasses, nearly played 400 games for Essendon and now works there. He isn't that important though.. he doesn't know much.

Why would Essendon Coterie members (several?) and a senior ex players share confidential information with you?

What would be the reason for that and did they ask you to keep it quiet? How would they react to you betrayal of their confidence, if they found out what they told you was relayed to posters on an opposition club's supporter board?

 

[rjay 24,935]

10 minutes ago, Dante said:

Why would Essendon Coterie members (several?) and a senior ex players share confidential information with you?

What would be the reason for that and did they ask you to keep it quiet? How would they react to you betrayal of their confidence, if they found out what they told you was relayed to posters on an opposition club's supporter board?

 

It's really not a matter of coterie members sharing information, it's more a matter that coterie members don't or at least shouldn't have information to share.

In most cases they think they are on the inside but in fact are not. A well run club would never share vital information with anyone that's not involved.

Not saying EFC are a well run club by the way.

[daisycutter 29,616]

at this time of the year insiders only tell you what they would like you (or anyone) to believe in their best interests

it's called posturing