Dion Prestia

[McQueen 17,864]

10 hours ago, AdamFarr said:

The main reason the final recruitment strategy hasn't been a main feature across Roos' tenure is because the MFC itself hasn't represented any value to the outside footballing community. Instead, we've decided to identify which players were worth keeping and building a side around. All the while, this enabled us to finish lower on the ladder and stockpile draft picks. Our defensive mindset was never going to win us a lot of games, but the scoreline was usually respectable.

Roos and co have basically performed a stealth rebuild and 'list management' strategy across three years, but done it very cleverly. Freo are doing vaguely similar things, playing an outdated brand of football that will see they don't get blown off the park every week, but also won't win most games. 

But returning to my original point, we are now in a position to attract quality players and Dion is one of them. 

I've had the same thoughts, AF. Carefully planned, beautifully executed and well masked (in a playing on your merits type sense).

Thanks for articulating it in a concise manner.

 

[thesleepinggiant 160]

We will not be trading much if any for Prestia. If anyone has to be traded it'll be a player from previous era. We are legitimate club now and hold the power.

Roos has rewarded almost everyone who has bought in and wont trade out any young players. 

[Adam The God 30,259]

1 hour ago, thesleepinggiant said:

We will not be trading much if any for Prestia. If anyone has to be traded it'll be a player from previous era. We are legitimate club now and hold the power.

Roos has rewarded almost everyone who has bought in and wont trade out any young players. 

It's not up to Roos.

[Ted Lasso 19,518]

On 5/27/2016 at 9:38 PM, thesleepinggiant said:

We will not be trading much if any for Prestia. If anyone has to be traded it'll be a player from previous era. We are legitimate club now and hold the power.

Roos has rewarded almost everyone who has bought in and wont trade out any young players. 

I wouldn't be so sure, i think it would take a pretty special offer but i doubt they'd be totally untouchable, for example would you trade Christian Salem for Dion Prestia if there was no other option to land Dion?

[Adam The God 30,259]

20 minutes ago, Abe said:

I wouldn't be so sure, i think it would take a pretty special offer but i doubt they'd be totally untouchable, for example would you trade Christian Salem for Dion Prestia if there was no other option to land Dion?

Yep and I'm a Salem fan.

[olisik 4,060]

Players like ANB, Salem, Kent, Brayshaw ect will need to come into consideration to land Prestia. 

 

Unfortunately Terlich and JKH won't land you much

[dee-tox 4,835]

Both Hurley or Prestia require a first rounder. We don't have one and nor do we necessarily want to trade one of our promising youngsters. Other than two second rounders which might not get it done, I'm interested to know how we think this can work. 

[SaberFang 7,151]

Why on earth would we waste our time going for Hurley this year when he's a free agent next year? Common sense people.

[ding 5,126]

29 minutes ago, dee-tox said:

Both Hurley or Prestia require a first rounder. We don't have one and nor do we necessarily want to trade one of our promising youngsters. Other than two second rounders which might not get it done, I'm interested to know how we think this can work. 

Well, as i have suggested before... we get Hurley with one of the first rounders we get for Hogan, and Prestia with the other.

 

 

 

(Hogan is staying)

[Whispering_Jack 30,135]

4 hours ago, SaberFang said:

Why on earth would we waste our time going for Hurley this year when he's a free agent next year? Common sense people.

In the event that another club trades for Hurley this year, a new contract would be put in place and this would end the possibility of him becoming a free agent under the current rules for seven years.

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

17 hours ago, Grand New Flag said:

Lets be clear. 

 

If Dion chooses us as his preferred destination, he will end up a Dee.  

You can never have too many A Graders.  Those who say we have too many players of his ilk are being naive.  How many midfield A Graders has Hawthorn had in the last 5 years? Many of them have had to play in alternative positions, but the key to their success is firstly recruiting them and secondly having them play their role which may only be periodically and briefly through the midfield.

I have no idea what we will have to give up for Dion, but once a player declares a destination, the destination club is in a position of power. The departing club has rarely received market value, particularly since free agency. The acquiring club has almost never failed to sign their man once preferred destination is declared.

My understanding is Dion will choose us. Hogan will re-sign along with McDonald.  We are unlikely to lose regular 22 by choice.  

As I have previously said, I will retire GNF if I am wrong.  This is the firm belief of our club.

I. Love. This. Post.

 

[Mach5 4,767]

8 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said:

I. Love. This. Post.

 

Easily pleased?

 

[Ethan Tremblay 30,861]

2 minutes ago, Mach5 said:

Easily pleased?

 

Easily sucked in.

[Ted Lasso 19,518]

On 5/28/2016 at 1:20 AM, olisik said:

Players like ANB, Salem, Kent, Brayshaw ect will need to come into consideration to land Prestia. 

 

Unfortunately Terlich and JKH won't land you much

Unfortunately i think you might be right, however i think it will be 2017 first rounder and a fringe player, i can't see the club being willing to move on Salem, Kent or Brayshaw

[tilly18 289]

15 hours ago, adsy said:

This will sound like the 'Judd's Grandmother' days, but he's 100% moving back to Melbourne to be closer to family and has informed GC. Unfortunately he's tossing up between Tigers and Kangas. Guessing money is a key factor, but not sure. Perhaps inside mid isn't one of our key priorities and with his injury history we're focusing our attention elsewhere? 
 

Source - his sister

Live everyone else I appreciate access to the inside information shared on this site and I would never question the source and ask someone to break confidentiality.

So I am interested, other than DP being happy to have his current thinking out in the public domain, why would you reveal the source of extremely confidential information.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

Just now, olisik said:

Players like ANB, Salem, Kent, Brayshaw ect will need to come into consideration to land Prestia. 

 

Unfortunately Terlich and JKH won't land you much

Yes they will, we're on Demonland after all.  Straight swap - Terlich for Prestia and JKH for Hurley.  If anything that's paying overs.

[dazzledavey36 54,939]

37 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Yes they will, we're on Demonland after all.  Straight swap - Terlich for Prestia and JKH for Hurley.  If anything that's paying overs.

Way overs.. you should be ashamed of yourself.

[dazzledavey36 54,939]

And this is why people are kidding themselves in thinking we don't need Prestia in our midfield.

He adds class, grunt and extra midfield quality

[spirit of norm smith 16,459]

Prestia would walk into our best 22... in fact our best 10 !!

[Moonshadow 17,676]

7 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Prestia would walk into our best 22... in fact our best 10 !!

Best 1 based upon today Norm

[Watts the matter 1,235]

48 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

And this is why people are kidding themselves in thinking we don't need Prestia in our midfield.

He adds class, grunt and extra midfield quality

I don't think anyone would disagree that Prestia would be in our best team and a good contributor.

The argument that people keep ignoring is the cost. Both in terms of getting a trade done and salary cap space.

What are you prepared to give up for him?

I, like many others, think there are many more pressing needs and unless we were getting an amazing deal, I cant see why he would be a priority. 

 

 

[Jaded No More 68,915]

I might be wrong, but I thought you can't trade future picks two years in a row?

[Watts the matter 1,235]

Just now, Jaded said:

I might be wrong, but I thought you can't trade future picks two years in a row?

You can, just need to use 2 first rounders every 4 years (90% confident on the 2nd part).

[Moonshadow 17,676]

2 minutes ago, Watts the matter said:

You can, just need to use 2 first rounders every 4 years (90% confident on the 2nd part).

Better than the 50% certainty of AFL rules and decision making

[Adam The God 30,259]

14 minutes ago, Watts the matter said:

I don't think anyone would disagree that Prestia would be in our best team and a good contributor.

The argument that people keep ignoring is the cost. Both in terms of getting a trade done and salary cap space.

What are you prepared to give up for him?

I, like many others, think there are many more pressing needs and unless we were getting an amazing deal, I cant see why he would be a priority.

Without a decent midfield the rest of the team doesn't matter...

Without Oliver, Viney was hard-tagged leaving Jones (at best) a B+ grader as our best mid. We're going nowhere with that.