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Another flag for Jack Trengove on the weekend. Congratulations to Billy Stretch, too, on tasting premiership success with Glenelg. Two ex-Demons doing good things back home.

I think it's a bit of a myth that the likes of Larkey and Mitch Lewis are young. They were drafted in 2016 and Larkey is turning 26 next year. He is right in his prime in the next 3-4 years, then he will be nearly as old as Steven May who most are predicting to fall off a cliff soon. North possibly get a tilt at a flag right at the back end of this period. I think it just goes to show how long it takes some of these KPF to really find their feet in this league, and is also why JVR did such a great job this season. I feel like he has a great chance to be just as good as these guys at even earlier age.

Izak Rankine brings his mum to the Brownlow. Me: oh that’s so cute 🥹 Luke Jackson brings his mum to the Brownlow. Me: [censored] mummy’s [censored] boy! 🤬

It's been a massive few days for former MFC skipper Jack Trengove. Won the Keith Sims OAM Medal (the Brownlow equivalent) in the Adelaide Football League on Thursday night. He was then BOG in a premiership victory as his Prince Alfred Old Collegians beat Payneham Norwood Union in the Div 1 Grand Final on the weekend. Said it's the most enjoyable season of football he's ever played. Congrats Trenners!

I’m not suggesting anything here.. Luke Jackson purchased a house for his mum and then requested a trade back to WA and moved into said home with his mum. Just saw he took his mum to the Brownlow. Totally unrelated, but I might watch the original “psycho” movie after the Brownlow.

Viney with 24 votes. Should have been AA.

Do you know what. I don't care trac didn't win. I'm so proud of Jack Viney and his season.

Lol this rumour was created by a fake Mitch Cleary account. 🤣 He signed a massive 6 year contract this year to 2029 and you believe a rumour that straight after he's signed this year he's already willing to talk to the dees? Do you realise how stupid this now looks ?

At least soft outside runner Daicos is COOKED

On appeal he’ll get that up to 27.

As good as it would have been for Trac to win, you've gotta feel for the Bont. Seriously dudded twice

If Gulden was a Daicos, he would’ve got the 3 votes in the last round. Two goals and 42 touches is a Nick Daicos 3 vote game every day of the week.

lol yeah sorry, that was not a Brownlow year from Neale. And the whole room knows it.

Viney 17 votes by only round 19. Great season.

Heard a few whispers but do not have a lot of faith in the veracity of said rumours. I do like that there is little or no leaks coming out of the club these days. We know that Deakin Smith is gone...... Dunstan retired..... Hibberd retired...... Jordon 99% out the door as a RFA.... Grundy 80% out the door traded to Sydney? but I think the club would not mind if a deal cannot be done and he stays for another season. For what it is worth unfounded whispers..... Harmes is looking at options but I have heard that there is a deal available for him if he stays. Chandler or Spargo may be on the table depending on the offer. Brown and Tmac I have heard that one of the two will retire with the other staying on the list. both have been mentioned as staying and both have been mentioned as retiring. No idea which way this will play out. Tomlinson will be getting more games next year as the third leg of the main defensive tall trio. As for drafting and trading...... More whispers. No real news on possible forwards. We are talking to a few players with regard to this year and trade period next year. seems hard to get a clear idea of who they might be and the chances of getting them. I did hear that we might be going a little left field for a possible solution in looking at a kpp, not necessarily a recognized forward, to cover the position should JVR of Petty go down. I heard that we will try for Reid but will not sell the house to get him. We have spent a good deal of time talking with him and his agent. I think we will be taking a longer term view of this situation. Not really a lot out there from what I have heard.

You know it might his night when he even polled a vote in our worst loss of the year at Gather Rd.

Still, Petracca has had 62 scoring shots to Bontempelli's 33. Over the last 2 years Petracca has had 50 more score involvements than the next best player, i.e. 410 to 360. Let that sink in. Fifty more score involvements than the player coming second over 2 seasons. He gets marked harshly, Petracca.

Amongst all the incredible feelings that came with winning the premiership, I found that the most enduring was the one that is usually the most short-lived, that being disbelief. Months into 2022 I’d hear a news segment that would begin with, “Reigning Premiers Melbourne…” and I’d think sh!tt that’s right… we won the premiership! It took forever to sink in. ❤️💙

Collingwood: Played twice, won by 4, lost by 7 Brisbane: Played twice, lost by 11, won by 1 Port: Played once, lost by 4 Carlton: Played three times, won by 17, lost by 4, lost by 2 GWS: Played once, lost by 2 We played the top 5 sides 9 times and lost 6 of those games by less than 2 goal. Let's not pretend we are no good and a rabble. We had Tmac, Brown, Petty and Fritta injured for long periods. We had a second year key position forward show heaps. I don't think our forward line is the major issue and the concept that we "need to sell the farm" to get a gun KPF is flawed.

All sounds like a load of MaLarkey to me....

Professional sport is often a game of centimetres. Everything done or not done can have enormous ramifications on the result. Clarry is my favourite player so let me put that out there first. But I agree with Selwood and Cotchin, that what he did was just dumb. Getting Cripps off the ground, in that last quarter, could have seen us in a PF and maybe even a GF. It was not the time or place to be a nice guy. Semis are sudden death. Cripps, imo would not have done the same. His scragging and occasional hard physical acts, show a determination to win at all costs. Do we forgive guys who don’t go when it is their opportunity? Collingwood is in the GF. Look at how many of their players are prepared to hurt opponents. Maynard, Cox, Adams and Mihocek often snipe and even Pendles, yes Pendles will “innocently “ hurt players and even Nick Daicos gut punched a Giant and buried Daniels head first, which put him off the ground in the vital last few minutes. Winners are grinners. Ask our Coaches if they are happy with Clarry’s gesture. Ask his team mates. No, for me it was a dumb act, from not one of our brightest.

Cripps got 22 votes, that’s a joke also

AFL football has lost its magic.

Neale was average. Nothing given to Dunkley or McLuggage etc Add neale to the accumulators like Mitchell, Priddis etc. Curnow had twice the year Neale did and wouldn’t even be in the top 25

Proud of the combined votes of Christian and Jack.

Just [censored] off. When you think you can’t hate the AFL anymore you watch this waste of time

trac polling better than expected early.

Bont robbed. That 3 for Neale for a 20 possie game, when Kelly 42 and Coniglio 38 no votes is pathetic. 2nd year in a row that 2 Dees the highest 2 from any club.

24 votes for Viney is bloody fantastic tried his guts out every week and lead from the front

Does anyone expect a fair count? The umps cannot get the basic decisions right, how can they adjudge the best player..

Well done Jack Viney 7th in a Brownlow thoroughly deserved, and had a better last third of the year than trac. So umps got that right

Does anyone really think Neale had a Brownlow quality season? To me he was mostly average in a great side.

Umpires are useless at everything they do. It's the only explanation.

Luke Jackson has already left, his mum said it was past his bed time.

I would be happy for Bont to win it. He’s an out and out star and been carrying the Dogs for years.

Should Petracca have got more than 1 vs Saints?

Get the bloody kid off , for God’s sake

Mum just making sure he doesn't try and move back

So does he.

I've long been a fan of Brownlow night, but it is increasingly becoming a tiresome experience to sit through. Things I'm not looking forward to tonight include: The boss's brother pretending he is best mates with all of the players: "Trac", "Bont", "Daics", "Crippa". The collective circle jerk performed by the media every time a member of the Daicos family appears or is mentioned. Any segment created for the sole purpose of giving air time to Rebecca Maddern or Abbey Holmes. Any "content" sponsored by the league's official betting partner. Any segments involving Auskickers. Any fan voted award that allows Richmond or Collingwood supporters to vote en masse for their favourite player. The telecast going well past 11pm when it should be done by 10:30pm. All I want to see are some highlights from each round, the votes then a summary every 6-7 rounds, and a quick chat to 3-4 players. Should be done in less than 2 hours, including the winner's speech. As for the winner, hard not to see Bontempelli winning given Daicos was sadly injured late in the year.

Months. It's pure fantasy. North already losing Mckay, they're not going to let Larkey walk away from a freshly signed 6 year contract even if he declared he wanted out. Any other options out there? Ben King gets talked about every year. What's his contract status? Free agent end of next year?

You're the only one banging on about some elite status tag. I believe we did leave a flag on the table this year, as we're just as good as any other team, and we've beaten both grand finalists. It was more down to our injuries that were basically all in the same zone of the ground. No other team dealt with this same problem this year. It's abundantly clear that Petty and Melksham have forward craft. They're both excellent finishers too. We lost both of them for our finals campaign and looked what happened. Inaccuracy cost us both games. I want us to add more class and finishing in the forward half to go with Petty, Kozzy, Fritta and McAdam, to make us better. I think if we get our forwardline personnel, better craft from our forwards, we'll be extremely difficult to beat, because unlike Collingwood, we don't overcommit numbers forward (which we did in Goodwin era #1), if anything, we allow extras against us at contest and play extras behind the ball. Of course, I expect most teams to change things a bit over the season. If Collingwood fall again this weekend, they'd have to examine their game style, and certainly their personnel, pretty heavily. I've written about this already, but what we need to look at is our 7th defender and seeing how we can exploit this for offensive purposes with an outnumber at ground level, rather than in the air. We have to back May, Lever (I'd like O'Sullivan) and our second tall defender to halve contests when 1v1, and go for the intercept when it's on the table. But otherwise, we want an outnumber at ground balls (ie playing three wingers and abandoning the Rivers offensive intercept role), so we can slingshot back to a less crowded forwardline. I expect Chaplin to replace Yze as the game day strategist and it's likely we'll have a new forward and midfield or defensive coach. So we're going to have new ideas challenging the status quo, but it's also incumbent on the senior coach and coaches to play to the strengths of the list. Where are our strengths? Backline personnel, defensive system, our midfield personnel's ability to win contests (win them outnumbered too). So we need to accept that our mids are great at the contest, but less precise with their disposal, which in the recent history of contested players, is pretty much the go. Martin and Dangerfield for example can absolutely butcher the ball by foot. As to our defensive strengths, I think we can sacrifice a little more defensively to give a little more offensively, but that involves something like using two of the three wingers as wing backs, enabling the likes of Bowey, Salem and McVee licence to take on plays higher up the ground, knowing cover is out the back for them. It means we don't necessarily give up our intercept game (which will still be 2024 footy), but that we can get outnumbers at defensive ground ball (which IMV is just about the most important facet of the modern game given the speed the game has been played at since 2021), and this ability to win ground ball, then feeds into our ability to score, and improves efficiency of ball movement by having our better ball users (Salem, Bowey and McVee) instigating our scoring chains from the middle of the ground, and ideally through the corridor.

The earth is flat. the surface of the earth is 70% water. None of it is carbonated. Therefore the earth is flat. I’ll see myself out…

Fisher is locked in for North. They have offered him 5 years at stupid money . Fisher is soft as butter and hopefully we don’t go anywhere near him.

Hearing Zac Fisher might be in the radar after some ‘player recommendation’ — I can see it from a pace perspective, would def add some outside pace to our depth pool. Key Fwd wise, still not getting any names whatsoever bandied about apart from some surmising that the obvious— but still more dream-like — candidates are Hawkins, Walker, Larkey (24-25, — Whilst other names of muted interest are Jack Hayes, Fullarton, Day, Chol, Coleman-Jones, Reid among others prev mentioned. Ruck wise it seems we’ll likely go to VFL, but why we’re not in Goldstein sweepstakes beats me, esp if he’s interested in playing behind Draper for “Success” — Got to be worth a chat surely. Love the club at least asking question if Larkey, just wish it had of come 3m earlier! Stay Tuned…

I’m not too sure of the ins and outs or the finer details but apparently there is a deal getting done. We will hear something on it when we hear it.

And that’s where the similarity ends. 😁 Frankston Oval is a great ground; a relaxed and happy vibe, a big screen, food and drinks reasonably priced, close to the train station and friendly welcoming ground staff… everything that the sh!tt-hole in Geelong isn’t. The surface seemed fine. Definitely wasn’t slippery and the players didn’t seem to have any issues with it.