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  1. Why would you start a new thread like this when your comment could’ve been posted in the “veil of negativity” thread? Genuine question.
    20 points
  2. This just popped up on YouTube today! I think the ABC version is my favourite. Cheers to @The Mighty Demons for the edit!
    16 points
  3. Essendon’s board have all the emotional resilience of a Demonland Gameday thread.
    16 points
  4. No, you’re not just stating that “there’s a good chance…” The thread title is “We’re finishing OUT of the top 4”
    16 points
  5. What do the last ten premiership teams have in common? They were all ranked in the top 6 in the following statistical categories in their premiership year: Shots at goal differential (all ranked top 4) Total points conceded Opposition shots at goal Opposition goals Percentage Inside 50s Following on from the thread H&A % as an indicator of team chances to win Finals, I decided to look at what stats (including percentage) recent premiership teams have in common using a somewhat simplistic methodology. I have analysed the ranks of the last ten premiership teams against a large number of statistical categories in their premiership year. There are 26 statistical categories in which at least eight of the last ten premiers ranked in the top 6. The list of the 26 categories are in the images at the end of this post. Nine of the last ten premiers were ranked in the top 6 in at least 21 of these 26 categories (the Western Bulldogs ranked in the top 6 in 18 categories in 2016). Melbourne ranked number 1 in 16 of these categories last year, more than any other premiership team in the last ten years. There are currently three standout teams this season for these "premiership metrics" - Geelong, Melbourne and Sydney. "Premiership Metrics" ranked in the top 6 in 2022 25: Geelong 24: Melbourne 19: Sydney 14: Brisbane 14: Richmond 13: Fremantle 11: Collingwood 10: Western Bulldogs 8: Carlton What are the Premiership Metrics? Where do teams ranks against these metrics in 2022?
    14 points
  6. Threads should not be started lightly, and this the perfect example of why. There is no substance, no avenue for further discussion and no point to this thread. It’s just you having an anxious and pessimistic moment and telling us about it.
    13 points
  7. By the end of the season we will have played 1 team outside the top 9 teams in the last 12 weeks while being banged up with injuries. This doesn't excuse our losses nor does it garuntee we will suddenly beat everyone in the finals, but keeping those metrics as high as we are with such a difficult run in vs let's say Geelong or Collingwood having much more favourable draws is a reason to have confidence.
    13 points
  8. Now could be a good time to produce some Paperwork from 2012 Essendrug, clear the decks….. Still the same cheating organization in my view… wallow in mediocrity you bastards
    10 points
  9. Why is this a thread? Meet with the run home thread or kill it.
    10 points
  10. Negative Nancy hey, there is every chance of beating Brisbane.
    10 points
  11. This simply has to stop. And it simply has to stop on this website too. During the game last night in the Game Day Thread I was alerted to two posts from different people making ethnic slurs about people in the crowd. These posters have since been banned. Vilification on the basis of race, gender, religion, sexual orientation or ethnicity is unacceptable and will be treated as such. Posters that make such vile comments are not wanted here and will be banned permanently.
    8 points
  12. We'll beat Brisbane on Friday night while St Kilda will win a tight one against Sydney on Sunday looking to end their season on a high. Means we'll finish 2nd having won 3 of our last 4, all against fellow finals teams including wins against Brisbane and Fremantle interstate. Pretty decent form to take into the finals IMO.
    8 points
  13. The veil of negativity thread is about you buddy
    8 points
  14. We were ahead for over 60% of the game so why do you say that? Last week we played far better football & lost but should have won. This week we hung in there …Carlton played out of their skins & either team could have won. We were not lucky ..we deserved the win
    8 points
  15. Question: Harry Petty does a brilliant job one on one one against Curnow to spoil and not infringe, only just hitting Curnow's outstretched arms as happens in 50 aerial contests a match. Yet the umpire pays a free. Ok, that's the benchmark for a marking infringement. Brown and Gawn get scragged and their arms held and/or smashed at every aerial contest they are engaged in in and yet receive barely a single free between them. What up with that? P.S - asking for a friend.
    8 points
  16. just re-watched the game and what stood out was how good Jayden Hunt was all game, not just in the last few minutes. He could be a real weapon come finals.
    8 points
  17. Look at all the so called dynasty teams of the last 20 years. Brisbane Lions: Didn’t finish on the top of the ladder in any of their three peat years. Lost to Collingwood week 1 of 2003 and had to get to the big dance by rolling the Swans in Sydney. Geelong: Experienced the embarrassment of the ‘08 GF, made to look second rate against Collingwood in ‘10 and finished second in ‘09 and ‘11. Yet they won three flags in 5 years. Hawthorn: Were underdogs in the ‘14 flag decider and had to go through the hard way after losing their first final against WCE in ‘15 Richmond: Never finished top in any of their flag years. When they did have a completely dominant 2018, they pooed the bed in the PF against the Pies. The strongest steel is forged in the hottest fire. No team wins a flag sailing through entirely still waters.
    8 points
  18. Essendon running to get Clarkson like
    7 points
  19. What a glowing reception this thread has received. And rightly so.
    7 points
  20. You did not state “there’s a good chance”… you made a definitive statement that does belong as a post in the veil of negativity topic. It was an attention seeking post.
    7 points
  21. Gunston looks still gettable... Given TMac and Brown have one good leg between them, I'd have a crack.
    7 points
  22. Far out...this thread sounds a lot like "We won't win the flag this year". I would suggest you go and ready the "Premiership metrics" thread.
    7 points
  23. If we beat Brisbane on Friday we'll end the season with 16 wins, one fewer than last year. That will be despite: a brutal fixture - assuming the Dogs pass Carlton, of our five return matches four will have been finalists. Compare that to Brisbane, whose five return matches feature just one finalist (us). Or Geelong - the Dogs will be their only return game against a finalist, plus they've had North and West Coast twice each. And that's without touching on travel, six straight weeks of different venues, and repeated instances of having a shorter break than our opponent. the competition focusing on us and analysing our gameplan within an inch of its life. a comparatively worse run with injuries than 2021 (not saying we've had as bad a run as other sides, just that it's been worse this year than it was last year).
    7 points
  24. It all starts at the very beginning of life…
    7 points
  25. It seems I view this game and its result differently to many on Demonland. Which doesn't necessarily surprise me given the way Demonland has reacted to our 2022 season. We won an extremely close game in front of a loud, rabid crowd in a finals-like atmosphere. When was the last time we did that? We beat Geelong in Round 23 last year but there was no crowd. This year we lost to Collingwood and the Dogs, last year we lost to Adelaide. So perhaps the GWS win in the second-last game of 2020? Otherwise maybe we're going back to the 2018 finals. Maybe I'm wrong, but I reckon a game like that, with that result, will spark something in our players. A reminder of the thrill of playing these big games, when they don't end in disappointment like they did the previous week. Maybe they'll spark a change in ball movement, or a change in how we defend, but at the least a change in belief. It's true that Carlton's midfield was weakened, but as we all cry out for when we're down in numbers, they brought elite effort which doesn't depend on talent. Like almost every game we've played this year, our opponent has lifted when playing us. It's true that we still didn't really maximise our inside 50 chances, but one area we did improve on significantly was forward half pressure. 8 tackles inside 50 last week to 20 this week; Fritsch laying 5 of his own. I still think too many are expecting us to be blowing everyone, even top 8 sides, out of the water. We weren't doing that last year and we shouldn't be expecting it this year. I rate this win, and I rate our chances to knock Brisbane off again this Friday and confirm our top 4 spot.
    7 points
  26. Before watching the VFL today I thought the one obvious change that would be made was Harmes needing to come in to tag Neale. As a fan of Harmesy I’d still be ok for him to get that role but his VFL game today wasn’t great. He got a huge amount of the ball but kept trying to break tackles, take on too much pressure on the handball and bombed most of his kicks. Meanwhile Bowey was excellent, never wastes a kick, was hard at the tackle, had some brilliant spoils and kicked an important goal. It looked like he was pushing forward more today also, so maybe he’s aiming at Spargo’s spot, although maybe the wet weather just had them all pushing up the ground to lock it in. Sadly today also showed me why JVR is being held back. On a tough day for forwards he was well beaten by Plowman and co and despite trying hard it took throwing him into the ruck for him to have any impact on the game. I see a big future for him but on the first defender being pushed hard he was found wanting a bit today. Meanwhile Weid was excellent. Long story short, either Bowey in for Spargo or no change. If we desperately want Harmesy to tag Neale then he comes in, probably for Sparrow.
    7 points
  27. What a cracking match. The tape can go straight to the pool-room. Put it in a soundproof box, though, so we don't have to listen to Hamish whatshisface try and ruin an all time classic MFC win on the bell with his bemoaning the fortunes of the losing team's supporters. He can [censored] right off. I still can't understand how any Dees supporter can't be absolutely rapt that this is what we are living through. Onwards. Go Dees
    7 points
  28. Over the past 30 years only four clubs have managed to go back to back. Adelaide once (1998), Brisbane twice (2002, 2003), Hawthorn twice (2014, 2015), and Richmond once (2020). Geelong has never done it. Their three premierships in 2007, 2009 and 2011 were followed by Hawthorn, Collingwood and Sydney, respectively. Maybe this will help people with their expectations of this year, but winning one is tough, but going back to back is a rare feat. You’re dealing with complacency, culture changes, list changes, figured out game plan, a harder draw, worse draft picks and most importantly - and I can’t stress this enough - a professional league of other elite clubs where every other team is trying to achieve the same goal. Keep positive. Enjoy the footy we’re playing. Enjoy that we’re still extremely competitive and will be playing finals. Stop comparing it to last year and most of all have some healthy respect to the competition we’re facing. Go Dees.
    7 points
  29. We're 6-0 on the road this year brisbane are flat track bullies and fold under pressure Dees to win And i reckon Carlton will beat the pies
    6 points
  30. Some Doomsayers are more evagelical than others so need their own platform to preach their messages of misery from.
    6 points
  31. Since the byes finished in Round 14, here is the top 8's record against the current top 8 (i.e. Carlton in, Dogs out): Geelong - 3-0 Melbourne - 3-2 Sydney - 2-0 Collingwood - 1-1 Richmond - 1-1-1 Carlton - 1-3 Fremantle - 0-1-3 Brisbane - 0-2 5 of our 8 games since Round 15 have been against the current top 8 (which might remain the final top 8 if Carlton wins or the Dogs lose this week). Brisbane, Sydney and Collingwood have, combined, played 6 games against the top 8 in the same period.
    6 points
  32. The kick to the pocket should only be used at certain points in a game. We overuse it far too often IMV. It's fine if looking to protect a lead or ice a quarter or game. Possibly on occasions if the oppo is on a 3 to 4 goal momentum roll. Outside of that it should never be the 'go to' option. We should be going to the hotspots or fat side wherever possible and getting a small or two (even Fritta) front and square more often. All out attack bar the above exceptions. Anything else is playing right into the oppo's hands and keeping them in the game as its such a low percentage (conversion) play that will result in a low undefendable score against the better clubs. Puts too much emphasis on our defence/defenders holding the line pretty much every game. Just not humanly possible to do this every week, especially against the top 6 to 8 clubs. It's about getting the balance right IMV and at the moment we are way too conservative (with ball placement/method...eg bombing to the pocket) going foward....except when we're behind and the game's on the line! Funny about that.
    6 points
  33. Maybe we'll do a switch and bait in the finals around this set up? It feels so obvious and repetitive that departing from it strategically should give us a competitive edge provided the boys are trained to expect it
    6 points
  34. Excellent in- the - moment action by Melksham in restraining Pickett in his actions to Newnes (well-deserved btw) and others. Showed great maturity by Kozzies team mates to dampen his understandable reaction after he won us the match.
    6 points
  35. There really isn't too much difference between this time last year, and now. 2 wins (that we easily could have had in the last couple of weeks), not much % wise, very wide open field... and I think a lot of us forget that we were a Gawn goal from finishing 3rd. Sure from here it only takes one bad game to be bundled out, but none of the teams scare me - home or away. We are right in it, and we are definitely going to be considered the team to beat in two weeks.
    6 points
  36. Given that we don't really have an option, Melk has become the de facto 2nd tall and he's doing a good job of it. The FD have been creative with their use of the rucks and Melk. JVR is not ready, as much as I would have liked him to be...wanting it so doesn't make it so. Weid has been tried and tried but not the answer. Smith might have been an answer if injury didn't get in his way yet again, not enough time to make a case I would have thought. Tommy Mac really isn't a show of being back. So what we've got is it...Melk and the resting rucks are the 2nd tall, with a bit more Trac time forward.
    6 points
  37. Watched the last 2 minutes again. The standard of commentary is absolute and utter garbage. Koz kicks one of the most clutch goals of the season, and all McLachlan can do is waffle on about the team being beaten and how disappointing it is for them. What about celebrating the skill and effort on display to do what looked impossible?
    6 points
  38. On this, here is each top 8 side's five return match opponents: Melbourne: Brisbane, Collingwood, Fremantle, Bulldogs, Port Adelaide (3 or 4 top 8 sides) Brisbane: Melbourne, St Kilda, Gold Coast, GWS, Essendon (1 top 8 side) Geelong: Bulldogs, St Kilda, Port Adelaide, West Coast, North Melbourne (0 or 1) Sydney: Bulldogs, St Kilda, GWS, Essendon, St Kilda (0 or 1) Fremantle: Melbourne, Carlton, St Kilda, GWS, West Coast (1 or 2) Collingwood: Melbourne, Carlton, Gold Coast, Adelaide, Essendon (1 or 2) Richmond: Carlton, Port Adelaide, Hawthorn, Essendon, West Coast (0 or 1) Carlton: Collingwood, Fremantle, Richmond, Adelaide, GWS (3) Bulldogs: Geelong, Melbourne, Sydney, Hawthorn, GWS (3) Our true competitors (i.e. not including Carlton/the Dogs, one of whom isn't going to make finals anyway) have had significantly easier return matches in their fixtures than us. If the Dogs make it, Richmond won't have had a single return match against any finalist. Meanwhile if the Dogs don't make it, both Geelong and Sydney will have had zero return matches against finalists. It's not 100% coincidence, but I think it's a contributing factor that three sides who are right now being labelled "in form", "premiership contenders" or "you wouldn't want to get them in a final" are Geelong, Sydney and Richmond.
    5 points
  39. Harmes had 35 possessions for Casey on the weekend and he's been the unused sub for the past 2 weeks. Can you see him getting a call up this week and if so who makes way for him?
    5 points
  40. Maybe we could have just one thread for all these random predictions so we can keep track....?
    5 points
  41. 5 points
  42. … or the “Dees won’t win a flag in 2022” thread. Actually, there’s no shortage of ridiculous, negativity-laden threads from which to choose.
    5 points
  43. The fact that this is a realistic possibility makes a mockery of those who espouse to the idea that loading impacts our results to any degree. To suggest that we lost games because we were only at 75% optimal level, is suggesting that we botched our loading program. Even if we do beat Brisbane, get the double chance and win the G/F, no fitness department would cut things so fine that it comes down to this. The reason it has come to this is twofold IMO. Firstly, we've had injuries to key personnel, who have struggled upon returning to the side. And secondly we've become too predictable in the way we play, and our opposition have pulled us apart at times. After starting 10-0, missing the top 4 would be a bad result.
    5 points
  44. Tx again Layzie As the proud son of a gay Daughter.....we must all make an effort to call out irrational and hurtful slurs wherever and whenever they arise. I know it's a different issue but bigotry comes in many forms and it's great to see just about dlanders find it for what it is...hurtful...irrational and nasty. If it happens at the footy, i will tell them off ( depending on their size of course)....or call up security and address the issue. The club's will have to come around and do the right thing too even if it costs them$. In the final analysis it just won't be tolerated and therefore biggots will find themselves alone watching the game on kayo with all their mates ( Zilch) instead of live at the ground. And won't that be nice so we don't have to hear their dribble. Thanks for listening again.
    5 points
  45. Agree. We are definitely struggling to run our games relative to our opposition at the moment. In the last half of q4 the blues and the pies were winning the critical contests and looked the stronger sides. And the real tell was our inability to get overlap run and waves of players to transition the ball and create scoring chains Which is one reason I thought our win against the blues was so meritorious. But if you support the concept of the dees having implemented a carefully calibrated periodisation program, then we are still on the upward trajectory physically and weeks away from our peak. Whereas the pies and the blues are probably close to their peak. Which was helpful for them against us as both games were at finals like intensity levels. A couple of contextual things to consider in comparing this year's physical readiness compared to last year. The lighting was no doubt a factor in the Eagles game, but the fact remains the eagles ran out the 2021 round 21 game better. And the crows came back from a sizeable deficit in the second half of the round 22 game, to get within four goals, before three very late goals by us padded the margin. And that game was little more than a run around compared to the intensity of the blues game. The lions game is fascinating in terms of the parallels with last year's round 23 game. We are playing a top 4 team, on their home deck where they have a huge home ground advantage and a win could help ensure a top 2 finish for us. Geelong has a huge amount riding on that game last year as a win would mean they didn't have to play port at home in the qualifying final. The lions have even more riding on it than the cats did. They lose and they drop to 6th, as might we. That scenario has a curious echo of last year too, in that the lions were the beneficiary of the dog's stumble against Port, and luckily scrapped into the top 4 at the dog's expense.
    5 points
  46. When you look at the $ paid for tv rights, it is simply amazing that they can’t improve the standard of commentary
    5 points
  47. I highly rate this team. The emotion of it all takes hold when expectations aren't met. I'll be first to admit that my negativity sometimes gets the better of me. I thought in the heat of battle that we were "pathetic" tonight. In reflection and after watching the replay I realised we're not. And that I am pathetic. This is my life.
    5 points
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