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Sydney don't have the mongrel of the Lions. It is clear Brisbane came out with intent from the first minute. Swans didn't want to match them which is a disgrace for a team that had the minor premiership sewn up in June. One of the greatest premierships today by the Lions considering they came from 0-3 (2-5), considering the offseason they had, considering the had to win from 5th, had to win two knockout finals on the road, had to come back from 44 points down halfway thru the 3rd quarter of the semi, had to come back from multiple deficits in the Prelim and then romped it in with ease today. I don't mind the Lions as a club, there's a few players of theirs I dislike but you have to admire what they've achieved.

There appears no good reason why he remains in the media yet he seems to float up to the surface of the septic tank every year

I have to say, mad respect for the way Oscar celebrated with his team. Class act, genuine happiness not a shred of poor ne.

With all due respect 31 you clearly have not learned anything on demonland. Where there's smoke there's fire. Morris, and now barret have suggested he could find himself at another club. They are not going to just pluck that out if there's nothing to it. I suspect the subtext is curnow had issued am ultimatum - Harry or me. I suspect there might cultural issues. McKay wants out. Kennedy treated appallingly and wants our. Looking for a new high performance manager. Houston doesn't want to go there Question marks over Voss's future. Is he the one? Where there's smoke.

I loved the idea, the thinking outside of the box. Had it worked everyone would have called our football department geniuses. If it worked, it had the potential to be devasting. It didn't work, sometimes the gambles don't work. It proved Max needs to be the number one guy. We found out that Max's forward exploits can't be turned into a consistent performance. But we did try it. Pretty strange for a coaching staff described as stubborn hey?

Out manbagged, Out man bunned Out played by a geezer they grabbed from the VFL straight outta the pub.

Is it so hard to believe that the people running the club have not been that great at what they do? Easier to believe in a media driven conspiracy? Peter Jackson and to a lesser extent Roos laid down the foundations for this club and after 5 years we've [censored] it up against the wall again. They've had a golden opportunity with the '21 flag to grow the club/cement out position and they've wasted it.

I think we can all agree that we are very happy we are not paying top dollar for an average ruck who couldn’t dominate a VFL ruck in a GF 4 years left on the contract still? yikes

It's hard to fathom many people considered Grundy to be a better ruck than Gawn at the end of 2019. Grundy seems to be declining every year while Gawn's aging like fine wine.

Can't help but remember that Luke Parker mockery of Essendon with the Jump Scare mime. it's exactly how the Swans play in GF's. Frozen and afraid to do anything but get rid of the ball any way they can Edit:

I was half right .

Agreed. I’m pretty sure I would have been able to get at least one ticket but the fact is the vast majority of the fans wouldn’t have been able to go and I watched it the way most people would. Sure I’d love to attend the game but not everyone will have that luxury regardless where we play. So for the selfishness of people who say “it won’t feel real unless it’s the MCG” take into consideration for fans that attending the grand final won’t ever be an option. Sure I’d like to win one here too but if this is all we ever get (forbid that) I certainly will die fulfilled knowing I saw a demons flag in my lifetime. An MCG premiership would be nice, but to be honest it could never beat this one for me. Our biggest drought over. First time in my life. A painful chapter finally closed.

Any flag won is awesome. Whether at the game, watching on TV, listening on radio or mone of those. Never understate how good it is.

I was lucky enough to be there in 21 and with respect location does not matter. It's a national competition. If the AFL had an integrity the GF should be at a neutral ground end of story. Yesterday and when there is an all Victorian GF are the exceptions to this.

Something I'm finidng bizarre in this moment is that in the H&A season there was only a three win difference between our finish in 14th and the eventual premiers. And I don't see any club announcing itself as a super standout for next season, either. This would be a great time for Australian football if not for the ignominious shadow politics, shambolic and lopsided draft and trade system, dysfunctional and reactive instructions to umpires, manipulation of the tribunal, terrible boys club commentary and a 'game day experience' developed by a committee of unaware ADHD cases.

I don't think either of these reads are correct. Grundy racked up plenty of easy stats but was no better than break-even against Fort when the game mattered (i.e. the first half), a player he should have dominated. Offered nothing aerially, let Fort get some really clean looks at stoppage, and let Fort drift forward too often. Jordon, meanwhile, started on Zorko and did fine until McCluggage went berserk in the first, so they moved him to McCluggage and took him right out of the game. It was remarkable that they were flogged in the second quarter despite McCluggage being quiet, really. Wasn't Jordon's best game and his flaws stood out a bit (slow decision-making with ball in hand, got caught too many times), but his primary tagging role was largely a success.

From Fox Sports. Players who could arrive Herald Sun journalist Jon Ralph has also recently said the Demons could try and lure Leek Aleer, who has struggled to cement a place in Adam Kingsley’s best side, while the Demons could be a landing spot for departing Geelong premiership player Brandan Parfitt.

Does anyone else follow Petracca on Instagram? Today he posted a series of photos of his time in Noosa when he was recovering from injury. 'Throwback to my happy place' It's a paid partnership with a range of Samsung Galaxy products being placed in the photos. Is it any wonder his teammates are getting frustrated with him when he post these things? He claims he needed to get away from the club for his own recovery but posts these cringe branding posts. Just about every single social media post is him plugging some paid partnership of some variety. Not the biggest deal in the world but leaves a slight bad taste in my mouth.

Maybe our next coach will come through the Demonland system as well. There are so many here that would do a much better job..........apparently 😏

We’ve been chasing every decent and half decent power forward for the past 5 years. It wasn’t a decision to not recruit a power forward. Grundy was plan f as plans a to e were not successful Im baffled as to how anyone can see it any different You honestly think we saw some quality forwards were available and said no thanks, let’s go for Grundy?

Rob Harding is coach - used to post here as @Hards

David King was no different and had Fagan sacked after round 6 or 7 from memory. Too many blokes trying to make themselves relevant making ridiculous headlines among a cesspool of journalists

Saw the other day that Mark "Choco" Williams has a side hustle selling little models of the MCG. He was promoting them on Fox Footy a few nights ago. Here's the link for anyone interested: https://mcgshop.com.au/mymcg-replica-stadium/ A bit too expensive for me. But each to their own. Anyway, I digress, after watching the 2024 Grand Final on TV, I have gotta admit winning an AFL Premiership at the MCG on Grand Final Day is the ultimate triumph. The AFL did an impressive job getting Katy Perry to perform. Although, $5 million dollars for 20 minutes of work is a pretty sweet deal for her! Now, don't get me wrong, the Melbourne Demons winning in Perth at Optus Stadium in 2021 was wonderful. Especially as we ended our 57 year Premiership drought. But winning a Premiership at the home of football at the MCG must be the ultimate objective. I hope Simon Goodwin and many of the Melbourne Demons players got together to watch the Grand Final on TV and it motivates them to aim for Premiership glory next year in 2025. Winning at the MCG would be absolutely amazing for us as long-suffering Melbourne members and supporters. Particularly if it's a beautiful day on the last Saturday in September. The COVID-19 lockdowns back in 2021 prevented us from celebrating the way we deserved to do. I am sure many of us want to celebrate a Premiership win here in Melbourne at the MCG so we can paint the town red and blue. Go crazy and party all night, go to a few pubs, get drunk and pass out in Swan Street, Richmond or some other place in the City. Ideally, we will have our home base built at Caulfield Racecourse in a few years so we can celebrate at our Home Base too! Especially, as I don't think the Melbourne Demons have any specific supporter friendly pubs like the Brisbane/Fitzroy Lions do such as the Royal Derby Hotel on Brunswick Street, Fitzroy. Anyway, let's hope we don't have to wait another 57 years to celebrate our next Melbourne Demons Premiership and that it is at the MCG IN Melbourne!

The Swans are a disgrace, two pathetic GF efforts in a 3 year period. Must be the culture up there.

I'm very surprised the Swans didn't win given they had both Grundy and Jordon playing. There's no doubt in my mind if we had Grundy and Jordon this year we would have won the flag.

Takes way too long to get rid of it and has very little dare in his game. He’s reliable, and a hard worker, and he had a good moment or two in the qualifying final. But honestly he’s as vanilla as they come. Our decline had nothing to do with him.

Nah, he wasn't. His stats looked ok but once again, played like a little man in a big man's body. He had no impact. Rowbottom was actually their best player, and by some margin. Grundy just piled up a bunch of fairly irrelevant handballs and took the grand total of one contested mark for the game. The Lions would be stoked with Fort's game.

Barrett probably got bullied quite a bit at school and developed his obnoxious and abrasive manner from this. If he was bullied more he might have had a deeper insight into what a [censored] of a man he is.

Agree, I would be happy to underrate a dozen more flags for us.

There style suits the SCG that's their problem.

Grundy grinds away all match but he doesn’t have much athleticism anymore, doesn’t do anything special at all no big marks or goals….just an old school plodder ruckman: he should have been able to take Fort to the cleaners but couldn’t.

It's great that you are passionate, living and supporting the team where they come from. There are a few on here who also pay for the team who don't live in Melbourne. Couldn't care less where and how we broke our drought. Stop [censored] sooking. If it had been staged and I lived in Melbourne at the time I still probably couldn't see it, because it's just for one tenth of our richest supporters.

They're calling it the "Swanny-Wobbles" now apparently.

The Harry Petty pick. 👌

I still like him, seems like a decent sort of bloke. But he clearly played his GF during Round Zero.

This is all true. But they also had the easiest fixture of all finalists (they played just one of their six double-up games against an eventual finalist, in GWS) which is unlikely to happen again next year. Despite the above injuries, they also had 11 players play every game this year, including Zorko, McCluggage, Dunkley, Cameron and Daniher. That's also unlikely to happen again next year. There's talk Daniher might retire, after a career-best season, and Hipwood still plays plenty of shockers. They were also 44 points down to GWS with 8 minutes to go in the third and if the umpire had paid a push in the back to Sam Taylor late, they might have lost the SF with questions being asked about whether Fagan can get it done. It's a fine line in the current competition and with the last four premiers all failing to win a final the following year, three of whom didn't even make the finals, there are no guarantees for Brisbane next year at all.

He never should have come to us in the first place. We never knew what to do with him.

Jordon was part of a midfield that was comprehensively thrashed. Maybe he's not the star that some here make him out to be and constantly lament his leaving?

Tim Lamb will work his magic by turning pick 37 into pick 34, by giving up pick 25.

I see comments like this a lot, but how many power forwards were available at the end of 2022? The talls that moved at the end of 2022 were Grundy, Schache, Weideman, Lobb, Frampton, McStay, Meek. There's hardly enough A grade or even B grade power forwards in the league around to have 1 at every club. The chances of picking one up in a trade are very slim. If we want to go with hindsight we would've been better off going after Karl Amon that year instead of trading for Hunter.

Looks like a cake

In what way 🤔. i am in no way a Lawrence fan (the way he has gone about it……….wow), but equally the way the leaders of our club (coach, pres, ceo, heck even players) have gone about it talking about not becoming complacent, yet look what’s happened……..equally wow.

Don't like the hard stuff, what happened to Bloods Culture?

Must disagree. In the second term, when the contest was decided, he allowed repeated Lions walk away wins at centre bounces. His grappling tactics failed when it counted.

Said it multiple times that money at that time should have been invested into a Power Forward not a ruckman.

Tim Lamb, Simon Goodwin and Maxy Gawn would be feeling pretty good about themselves after seeing todays performance from B.Grundy. Clearing $1m a year off the books for the next 3 years. Breathing a massive sigh of relief, he just doesn't do enough around the ground, no marking prowess, no presence about him in contest and doesn't kick goals all for $1m a year. Today clarified there reasons for clearing him off the books. Swans have a massive problem on their hands.

I thought that Grundy and JJ tried but Swans were outclassed all day apart from those first two goals, totally ineffectual. I thought that Lachie Neale was very stiff not to win the Norm Smith Medal clearly the best for mine.

Gus’s contribution that day is underrated by so many - incredible 3rd quarter doing so many of the 1%’s

“The reviews of both the AFL program and the Board will be completed in October and the priorities identified will be communicated to our members.” It’s still September, untwist your knickers.