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Merry Christmas to all on Demonland and to your families and loved ones from the bottom of my heart. Regardless of your beliefs, I wish everyone a safe and peaceful Christmas/New Year break. Hoping next year is a better one for all and for everyone no matter where in the world they are. Merry Christmas and a Happier New Year 2021 (even for all the Scrooges) ?

....... and a huge thank you to Andy, the Mods and everyone else involved in providing us Demon 'tragics' with far and away the best fan site in the AFL. You deserve a premiership for your efforts.

If any Demonlanders face the awful prospect of spending Christmas alone, please contact me. Looking for some extra chairs.

A challenging year on all fronts, not just footy. I have to say to all on Demonland whether or not I agree with you or whether or not you agree with me one thing is for certain. Demonland has provided some sanity in a rapidly changing and challenging year. My thanks to you all. Cheers PF

Christmas is about new beginnings. Let’s hope our 3 wise men Goody, Ooze and Choko lead us into the light.

Well it is x-mas day and the missus has just finished yelling at me so it is a good time to jump on demonland and wish all a happy christmas and new year. Just remember the olympics are in Tokyo next year so that means a Melbourne premiership.

All I want for Xmas is a flag. Not too much to ask. Merry Xmas everybody

Thanks everyone for sharing all your passion, news, analysis and hopes in 2020. This site is a constant source of interest ( and dismay) but most of all a shared brother / sister hood. Let’s hope for a mighty 21 and to drink together from that holy grail we’re all starving for.

Just make sure you know when you've had enough ...

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone. 2021 is going to be a very good year, especially for MFC.

Merry Christmas too all on Demonland, nothing but good wishes and blessings to all. Loved reading all contributions on the site and look forward to the twists and turns of the 2021 season, covid free hopefully. Stay safe and be kind to one another over the festive season.

Merry Christmas to all. Mods thanks for all ur efforts In Keeping demonland up and running. Here’s hoping 2021 is a better yr/season. Go dees.

A very Merry Chrstmas to all on Demonland, and a very safe, happy and Covid 19 free 2021?

Merry Christmas to all on Demonland. I hope that 2021 is a great year for all.

I'm not sure of the numbers but my intuition tells me that interstate teams pick up a gear when they get the rare chance to play at the MCG, The additional motivation of playing there plus the fact Melboure are known as a flakey team means interstate sides are often pumped and jump out of the blocks against us. It goes without saying that we need to somehow make the MCG a fortress. Over to you Simon.

Great news. It seems the Club is being very proactive in sorting out some of the lingering issues that have stalled our progress. We have a reasonable draw and a healthy list so hopefully onwards and upwards.

Drink ? up. Drown the sorrows of seasons past...

I wish you DZ and all of your loved ones the very best. Hope that 2021 is something back to normal and sanity for all of us.

No JL doesn't but what he brings is an organised game plan of a decades success snd with young players who stick to it. ( rather like in Cairns and with Freo foing the same thing) against our mo game plan and disjointed vs wind approach which resulted in disaster. They don't (Swans) build up fir us they know if they can get good use of theball their plan will outshine our haphazard and inconsistent game plan and give success, year after year, in fact from 2006 which nearly every year they have made Finsls snd we have once!!!! It's not rocket science BBP.

Karma. I thought we’d be onto this. Signed up now until 2023.

Gees the off-season makes some get carried away. It’s like the further we get from our last loss the more the optimism grows. We just need the kid to keep improving. Nothing more.

Two things that stood out for me about Rivers and why I think he’ll make it: 1) his debut against Carlton in round 2. After fluffing his first disposal he made up for it in his next disposal and totally hit the ground running from there with his composure and crisp disposal from half back. One of the better MFC debuts in recent years. 2) That goal against GWS. With the season on the line the kid stepped up to the plate and snapped an extremely difficult goal in the dying minutes which suggests to me that he’ll be comfortable on the big stage. An excellent debut season by Trent.

Merry Christmas

if.... if tom is fully recovered from injury if tom has a good preseason and gets fully fit if tom can avoid future injury ....then he just might have a very good year. we know his best is very good.

Bucs, Browns, Bills. Can't win, may as well look respectable. And Merry Xmas to all :)

But very few of us use our real picture. Brave move, Bitter.

Ditto, OD but, like me, wouldn't you add Hassa's 29 and perhaps John Lord's 4?

I haven't seem him play, but his accolades in the Alice seem to suggest he is very good at that level and he has been involved in the SANFL with North Adelaide, suggesting he is no mug. To go the effort to train and play there wouldn't be something done just for the fun of it, he must be able to play a bit.. The encouraging thing about him is he has made rep squads two and three years ahead of time, generally that is a sign of good talent. Another positive, which can be a negative, is that he is tiny. To be able to perform at a good standard against your peers under age and conceding size is a good indicator. Unfortunately, if there is no physical growth it can be detrimental eventually. Without having seen him play at all, there would seem to be at least some signs that he might be one to follow the progress of, at least. Quite of a lot of talented indigenous juniors get school scholarships and the like, so that might be his pathway forward (pure guesswork) and would be another good sign.

And older old buggers such as myself think of Bib Bob Johnson.

Demonland is proud to announce that we will be sponsoring new recruit Fraser Rosman in addition to our sponsorship of Jayden Hunt. Fraser replaces delisted Demon Josh Wagner.

Some how but Good luck with the last line jnr.

Chew us up and spit us out. What is new with the AFL like l said they are SLY!

Oldest 20 B Tomlinson May Lockhart HB Hibberd M.Brown Salem C Langdon Petracca Harmes R Gawn Brayshaw Viney HF AVB TMac ANB F Melksham B.Brown Hunt I Jones Jetta versus Youngest 21: B Smith Petty Hore HB Nietschke Lever Rivers C Baker Oliver Rosman R Jackson Sparrow Jordon HF Fritsch Weid Spargo F Pickett Bradtke Bedford I Chandler Bowey Laurie

Some of us rely on good taste picket !!

Yes, but Jack is a variant of John, so technically, there are still Johns in the comp ?

Personally I hate Friday night games always a rush, no parking and a late night home after walking back into the city to pick up the car and driving back to Doreen.!!!! Merry Xmas all on Demonland,,,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Got nothing to do with it !!! If you perform in a year like 2018 then you deserve Friday night and other FTA opportunities. Shouldnt be penalised forever we also have finished ahead of many teams in 2017 and 2020.

I hate Friday night games; watching us get obliterated ruins the whole weekend. Sunday twilight games are the go. At least we get to enjoy a couple of days of foolishly naïve, care-free optimism before we get belted.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2021-tips-21-fearless-predictions-by-fox-footy-premiers-tips-ladder-collingwood-trade-news/news-story/514d529055e57e0ce3055528d18dcc04 9. Trent Rivers will be in All-Australian contention Zak Butters was the surprise All-Australian squad bolter in his second year — and Rivers could be in the mix for a similar feat in his second AFL season. When Rivers regained his place in Melbourne’s senior line-up late in 2020, he slotted in with aplomb, having between 14 and 16 disposals in each of his last six games. His composure across half-back will be well noticed, not only by Demons fans, but the All-Australian selection panel.

Viney

Any side that does not have the rugby player in it .

I think he will bounce back.

I stumbled upon and watched the GWS draft night video. Some observations - - Clubs didn't enter selections via computer, they rang them through - GWS didn't rate Cox or Perkins in their group of players they targeted. They must have rated Reid. They were happy to get Bruhn. (could sense some dislike towards the Bombers) - Chapman was on their list but Freo took him. They then took Stone who they rated. - They were going to select Laurie with pick 24. When we picked him they did a trade with Collingwood for their future 1st pick

Reckon the whole exercise is an example of when to turn the box off and go for walk, come back when the results are in... they'd have us tuning in to the grass growing on the G it they could... Fight the power!!

We will do nothing. We may as well have dropped the soap.

don't stop there, hardtack Other language forms for the name John: Yahya (Turkish) Chon Dzon, Džon (Congolese, Serbian) Ean (Manx) Eoin (Irish) Evan (Welsh) Giăng (Vietnamese, Protestant[1]) Giannina (Italian) Gioan (Vietnamese, Catholic[2]) Gioann (West-Lombard) Giovanni, Gianni (Italian) Giuàn (Emiliano-Romagnolo) Gion Gjoni or Gjin (Albanian) Hans (Dutch, German, Swedish from Johannes) Hannes (German, from Johannes) Hannu (Finnish) Hoani (Māori) [3] Hone (Māori) [4] Honza (Czech) Hovanes or Hovannes (Armenian) Ian (English) Iain (Scottish Gaelic—common form, though Ian is used in English) Ianto (Welsh) Ibane (Basque) Ifan (Welsh) Ioan (Romanian, Welsh) Ioane (Samoan) Ioannis (Greek) Ion (Romanian) Ionel (Romanian) Ieuan (Welsh) Ivan (Bulgarian, Croatian, Russian, Ukrainian and other Slavic language nations) Ivanko (Ukrainian) Ivo (Croatian and some other Slavic language nations) Jaan (Estonian) Jack (nickname for John; not traditionally a name in itself) Jan (Catalan, Czech, Dutch, Polish, Norwegian) Ján (Slovak) Jani (Finnish) Janez (Slovene) Jānis (Latvian) Janko (Slovak, Hungarian) Janek (Czech) Janne (Finnish) János (Hungarian) Jăvan (Chuvash) Jean (French) Jens (Danish) Jhonas (Hebrew) Joan (Catalan) Jóannes (Faroese) João (Portuguese) Johan (Japanese, Dutch, Swedish, Danish, Norwegian, German, Faroese, Afrikaans) Johann (Germanic: German, Danish, Norwegian, Swedish) Jóhann (Icelandic, Faroese) Johannes (Germanic: German, Danish, Norwegian, Swedish, Dutch) Jóhannes (Icelandic) Jon (Basque, Norwegian) ジョン (Japanese) Jón Jonas (Lithuanian, Germanic: German, Danish, Norwegian, Swedish, Dutch) Jovan (Serbian) Juan (Spanish, Filipino, Manx) Juhan (Estonian) Juhani (Finnish) Jöns (Swedish)[5] Nelu (Romanian) Seán (Irish Seán, after the French Jean) Shane (Anglicised form of Seán) Shaun (American form of Sean) Shawn (Anglicised form of Seán) Sheik (Arabic) Siôn (Welsh) Sione (Tongan) Soane (Tongan) ᏣᏂ (Cherokee) in Cherokee syllabary Xoán (Galician) Yahya (حنّا or يوحنّا in Arabic, Turkish, Persian for the baptist) Yan (Indonesian) Yanka (Belarusian) Yann (Breton) Yiannis (Greek) Vanya (Russian) Yohannan (Malayalam) Yohannes (Ethiopian) Yohan, Yohanes (Indonesian, Malaysian) Yohan (Sinhalese, Sri Lankan) Yohanni (Makhuwa) 요한 (Korean) Yonnachan (Malayalam) Youhanna (Arabic, Persian (for John the apostle)) Youhannon (Malayalam) 約翰 [zh] (Chinese in Traditional Chinese characters, Protestant translation) 若望 [zh] (Chinese in Traditional Chinese characters, Catholic Church translation) 強 (Chinese in Traditional Chinese characters, colloquial transliteration based on English; literally "strong") Zane