The Jack Macrae Thread

[BoBo 2,912]

Jack Macrae has requested a trade from the dogs. 
 

30 years old, 3 time all Australian. 
 

Would/do/should we want him?

[demoniac 1,295]

Slow, one paced player. 

The game is increasingly prioritising speed and spread, and that is where we need to focus our drafting and trading.

A pass for mine.

Edited September 10 by demoniac
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[adonski 10,775]

Torn on Macca. Played out of position by Bevo, his class would stand out like a dogs balls in our midfield, but he's on the slower side.

[Fat Tony 5,068]

Still a valuable player on the field but he is on a good wage. It would depend on the cost in picks and salary cap.

[DeeSpencer 24,673]

I didn't rate him when he was good, I'm not going to be enthused about him now.

It comes down to midfield spots, the contract etc.

Right now our midfield is Viney, Oliver*, Tracc**, Rivers, Sparrow? and no one. Can make some case for Kolt, Laurie, Pickett, Kynan Brown I guess.

That has to be at least 6 if not 7 names by the end of the trade/draft period.

If it comes down to Macrae or no one then I'll choose Macrae, but he's far from my first choice.

[dazzledavey36 52,649]

 

[FreedFromDesire 567]

If we're being honest with our capabilities now after the last month or so and how it's dented our attractiveness as a club - Players like Macrae, Membrey, Daniel etc are quite possibly all we're going to be able to look at. I would have doubts some of those more exciting options like Waterman (likely never coming anyway), Edwards (re-signed now), Cumming & Houston (both have stopped being linked to us) are on the table anymore.

For what we need, what we can offer, and the possibility of upside; Macrae would easily be my top option out of those kind of aforementioned names. Sure, not exactly quick, but as a game style we absolutely must start using the ball quicker and better by foot, that's a more important factor than pure leg speed in my view. I do think Macrae helps our midfield depth and he would walk it in as our best midfield kick (ahead of Petracca, and ahead of Oliver and Viney by some margin). Looking at who we've been linked to thus far, kicking skills seems high on the list.

The other factor is - I assume we could comfortably handle his deal given the Angus Brayshaw contract discount for the next few years, which could mean a more favourable trade on our end of the bargain.

[BoBo 2,912]

My one immediate thought is that he is a greater version of sparrow.

Is Sparrow going to grow into the player he can be?

Are we going to be chasing another flag for the next 3 years? Or should we look to youth.

Edited September 10 by BoBo

[adonski 10,775]

2 minutes ago, BoBo said:

My one immediate thought is that he is a greater version of sparrow.

Is Sparrow going to grow into the player he can be?

Are we going to be chasing another flag for the next 3 years? Or should we look to youth.

You're right and you're wrong

He couldn't be more different a player than Sparrow BUT he is greater!

[hemingway 7,615]

Sadly, as others have pointed out, we will not be an attractive option for any player wanting to further their career in the immediate future. We have gone from roosters to feather dusters over the last few months. The damage  to our brand will take years to repair. 

[sisso 2,551]

Not what we need, too slow. Be better at a club like St Kilda who need a distributor to feed their runners

[ElDiablo14 4,875]

54 minutes ago, BoBo said:

Jack Macrae has requested a trade from the dogs. 
 

30 years old, 3 time all Australian. 
 

Would/do/should we want him?

Wait for the Bont instead 😅

[Gator 17,209]

34 minutes ago, FreedFromDesire said:

If we're being honest with our capabilities now after the last month or so and how it's dented our attractiveness as a club - Players like Macrae, Membrey, Daniel etc are quite possibly all we're going to be able to look at. I would have doubts some of those more exciting options like Waterman (likely never coming anyway), Edwards (re-signed now), Cumming & Houston (both have stopped being linked to us) are on the table anymore.

Straight out of the Greens playbook.

"We must do something.  This is something.  Therefore, we must do this".

Brilliant.

[bing181 8,877]

15 minutes ago, hemingway said:

Sadly, as others have pointed out, we will not be an attractive option for any player wanting to further their career in the immediate future. We have gone from roosters to feather dusters over the last few months. The damage  to our brand will take years to repair. 

Disagree. Professional AFL players have been around and can see past the external pile-on. Their decision-making process isn't going to hinge on what they read in the papers, but on the usual work stuff: conditions, contract, opportunities, coaches/managemet etc.

Having said all that, don't see Macrae would work, from both sides. Imagine he'd be better off at a team with a younger mid group who needs his experience.

[dazzledavey36 52,649]

 

[Little Goffy 13,941]

Bulldogs in such a crisis I'm tempted to pencil them in for the 2026 premiership.

But more seriously, it seems like soon enough the Dogs are going to be left with the deepest set of top quality talls in the game but only one midfielder under 30.

Edited September 10 by Little Goffy

[DubDee 24,280]

3 years left and he’s fallen off a cliff. Was a gun, one of the more surprising downfalls i’ve seen

With libba getting on and Smith going you would think they would want to keep him. Such has been his decline

Clear no from me

[rpfc 28,037]

He’s been told. Players don’t go public with a request with so many years left 

…

Yes I am aware.

[Canplay 630]

Not sure he stacks up against the Hawks new breed of fast, all day running bulls….  But not many do

[Garbo 1,454]

We already quite slow in the middle we don’t need another one plus he can’t kick over a jam tin 

[FreedFromDesire 567]

29 minutes ago, Gator said:

Straight out of the Greens playbook.

"We must do something.  This is something.  Therefore, we must do this".

Brilliant.

I'm not sure what politics has to do with anything on a football forum, however in relation to this football matter I'm choosing to be a realist about the situation we're in as a club currently while hoping we may be able to do better.

Personally I'm not convinced a midfield of a constantly sore Viney, a box of chocolates in Oliver and an apparent Lazarus in Petracca takes us any higher than we managed to stumble to this year. Macrae would improve that mix in my view. Perhaps by not a huge amount, but it helps.

I would much prefer to discuss potential improvements and options than merely attack others, it is a place to discuss football after all.

[Gator 17,209]

9 minutes ago, FreedFromDesire said:

I'm not sure what politics has to do with anything on a football forum, however in relation to this football matter I'm choosing to be a realist about the situation we're in as a club currently while hoping we may be able to do better.

Personally I'm not convinced a midfield of a constantly sore Viney, a box of chocolates in Oliver and an apparent Lazarus in Petracca takes us any higher than we managed to stumble to this year. Macrae would improve that mix in my view. Perhaps by not a huge amount, but it helps.

I would much prefer to discuss potential improvements and options than merely attack others, it is a place to discuss football after all.

The point being, I'd rather do nothing than recruits list cloggers.

[FreedFromDesire 567]

3 minutes ago, Gator said:

The point being, I'd rather do nothing than recruits list cloggers.

We will have list spots to fill no matter what.

Currently we have picks 5, 38, 45, 51, 61, 79. Hopefully Adelaide's pick 25 comes in for ANB, and perhaps we do a pick swap somewhere, but you wouldn't think we would use any more than the minimum 3 picks this year once the dust settles on it all - including our trade period.

With all of ANB, Brayshaw, Brown, Tomlinson, Hunter, Smith, Schache, KFW gone or likely gone, as well as Melksham no guarantee, that's a lot of list spots to need to fill.

Doing nothing is not an option.

[M_9 1,977]

No. No. No. We drafted three list cloggers last year, and we still have Hunter. No more 

[The Jackson FIX 2,670]

51 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

 

Geelong literally connected to everyone every season.