PREGAME: Rd 12 vs Carlton

[Gawndy the Great 7,475]

Who runs with Curnow? It’s not Lever and May doesn’t have the agility. Tommo will get a bag kicked on him.

 

[Jaded No More 58,133]

4 minutes ago, Nicko said:

Would it be a horrendous decision to bring in Tomlinson (after two good games at Casey) to support may n lever next week?

It might free Rick up to play his preferred roaming intercept marking role….?

We are running out of options. We don’t have anyone to play on McKay. May has to take Curnow as only he has the speed and height to go with him. 
 

[Binmans PA 26,227]

26 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

I said Chandler was better than Spargo. IMO Chandler should have stayed on and Spargo should have been subbed off.  

McVee was a different point. I don’t think McVee is setting the world on fire and he needs a rest, and I agree should be dropped, but he isn’t why we lost today.

Lever dropping 9 chest marks was more costly than anything McVee didn’t do in the contest I reckon. 
It’s our senior players not standing up today, or for much of this season (Trac and Clarry aside), that is hurting us the most. 

Agree with this entirely.

And I derps up the first bit, apologies.

[Nascent 7,323]

Out: McDonald, Chandler, Harmes, Jordon

In: Brown, Hunter, Tomlinson

Tomlinson to fill the second key defender post and free up lever to be the 3rd tall. Would prefer Turner but don't think he has the size for carltons forwards. 

[dee-tox 4,827]

Out: Harmes, ANB, TMac, Chandler

In: Hunter, Brown, Woewodin, Jordon.

[Jaded No More 58,133]

When was the last time we made 4 changes to the team? Let alone 4 unforced changes. It simply won’t happen. 
 

I would drop Harmes and McVee and bring Hunter back from suspension and Tomlinson (very reluctantly) to play on McKay. 

There are about 7 players who you could drop after the last two weeks, but it’s unlikely to happen. Especially with Casey having a loss. 

[Die Hard Demon 1,152]

5 hours ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Tomlinson in is a must

Please god no.. If we’re playing Tommo we might aswell just fly the white flag. 

[layzie 28,935]

4 changes? You're dreaming 

[Die Hard Demon 1,152]

The blues have a great list on paper just as we do.. And are as out of form as what we are. Anyone’s game. Certainly a lot less confident as I was with the game today. Doesn’t bode well.. 

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 5,820]

2 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

I said Chandler was better than Spargo. IMO Chandler should have stayed on and Spargo should have been subbed off.  

McVee was a different point. I don’t think McVee is setting the world on fire and he needs a rest, and I agree should be dropped, but he isn’t why we lost today.

Lever dropping 9 chest marks was more costly than anything McVee didn’t do in the contest I reckon. 
It’s our senior players not standing up today, or for much of this season (Trac and Clarry aside), that is hurting us the most. 

We need a third tall down back.

[spirit of norm smith 12,977]

In. Tomlinson Hunter BBB 

out. Spargo Tmcd Chandler 

only other option is Joel Smith 

Lever Tomlinson hibbo

Salem May Mcvee

Hunter Viney Langdon 

Sparrow JVR Anb

Fritta Bbb Kozzzy 

Gawn Trac Brayshaw 

Riv. Grundy. Harmes JJ 

SUB. Chandler 

Petty Oliver Dunstan injured (Verrell, Kturner) 

depth Turner Schache Melksham Laurie Spargo Tmcd Jsmith 

development (not ready yet) Sestan Jefferson Woey Adams Howes Farris-White AMW D.smith 

[layzie 28,935]

1 hour ago, A F said:

Agree with this entirely.

And I derps up the first bit, apologies.

Herpa derpa

[Dee Zephyr 17,665]

7 hours ago, Die Hard Demon said:

Please god no.. If we’re playing Tommo we might aswell just fly the white flag. 

You want to bring in Petty on one foot to play on Curnow/McKay? If you’re happy to go with May on McKay and Lever on Curnow or vice versa then don’t bring another tall in.

I would prefer Lever to go back to that intercepting role. I saw him get dragged to the wing numerous times yesterday leaving us a tad vulnerable inside defensive 50.

[picket fence 15,244]

Outs

T Mac ( Never to play again! lost any mobility he had)

Van Rooyen (Back to Casey) not ready

Chandler ( Run outa Gas)

Either any of Nibbler, Spargo, Mc Vee, Harmes take your picks

Inns

BBB ( should have been straight in weeks ago 351 career goals still offers more

Joel Smith ( playing forward at Casey, deserves a crack)

Taj Woewodin ( consistent at Casey time to debut)

Tomlinson ( 3rd Tall on back of consistent Casey form)

Hunter ( returns from suspension)

Coaches on notice !! Stale ideas aint working time to think outside of the box

Edited May 27, 2023 by picket fence

[BDA 20,182]

13 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

ANB had a couple of bad Nibbler moments but his tackling was excellent all day and it’s hard to say we don’t need that desperately. So many of his turnovers come from being in a side that makes it very hard for the player to know what to do given the lack of cohesion.

ANB tries his guts out. And i love him for it. He's a top-class character.

Ball in hand he is the worst player in the league. Yesterday was pathetic. I can't believe his tackling and effort is enough to compensate for his inability to handball 3 meters to a teammate. As soon as he got the ball the passage of play broke down. Every time. there has to a better option

[John Demonic 4,815]

10 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Who runs with Curnow? It’s not Lever and May doesn’t have the agility. Tommo will get a bag kicked on him.

 

Mate im relieved we actually have two decent forwards to focus our efforts on. Will work to our advantage given that's all they focus on when they bomb it up forward.

Edited May 27, 2023 by John Demonic

[Lil_red_fire_engine 10,219]

In: Tomlinson, Schache, Hunter

Out: McVee, McDonald, Harmes

Nb: Laurie or Woewodin my preference for sub. 

 

[DeeSpencer 23,189]

1 hour ago, BDA said:

ANB tries his guts out. And i love him for it. He's a top-class character.

Ball in hand he is the worst player in the league. Yesterday was pathetic. I can't believe his tackling and effort is enough to compensate for his inability to handball 3 meters to a teammate. As soon as he got the ball the passage of play broke down. Every time. there has to a better option

Maybe I need to watch the replay but he laced out Fritsch/Spargo with the best inside 50 kick of the day and they spoiled each other. He also had a lovely release handball to Tracc on the wing, that’s just 2 I remember 

To me he wasn’t worse than the display of butchery Harmes had. Or Spargo or Chandler 

[layzie 28,935]

1 hour ago, John Demonic said:

Mate im relieved we actually have two decent forwards to focus our efforts on. Will work to our advantage given that's all they focus on when they bomb it up forward.

Knowing our luck Matt Owies or Jesse Motlop will probably kick 3 each 😂

[John Demonic 4,815]

3 minutes ago, layzie said:

Knowing our luck Matt Owies or Jesse Motlop will probably kick 3 each 😂

or 6 from Jack Martin

https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/1329660/vfl-practice-match-team-martin-to-return

His timeline is even on track to Kent Kingsley us.

Edited May 27, 2023 by John Demonic

[ANG13 1,452]

Is Hibberd any chance to miss through injury? Looked to hobble of the ground near the end of the game. 

[leave it to deever 15,680]

10 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

When was the last time we made 4 changes to the team? Let alone 4 unforced changes. It simply won’t happen. 
 

I would drop Harmes and McVee and bring Hunter back from suspension and Tomlinson (very reluctantly) to play on McKay. 

There are about 7 players who you could drop after the last two weeks, but it’s unlikely to happen. Especially with Casey having a loss. 

Our forward line needs to be a priority imho.

[leave it to deever 15,680]

Spargo has been a favourite of mine since he started.  A clever user of the ball and timely goalsneak. I do think at this point, he just doesn't get enough of the pill.

[layzie 28,935]

8 minutes ago, ANG13 said:

Is Hibberd any chance to miss through injury? Looked to hobble of the ground near the end of the game. 

That would be very, very displeasing.

[Sydee 3,635]

34 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

Spargo has been a favourite of mine since he started.  A clever user of the ball and timely goalsneak. I do think at this point, he just doesn't get enough of the pill.

Got it more than lots of his mates 

He is one of the very few that is capable of creating and hitting a target 

I’d be waving bye bye to others before him