CHANGES: SF vs Brisbane

[layzie 28,752]

McDonald in for Ben Brown? So our one tall will be one that hasn't played much footy? 

[Pennant St Dee 11,279]

2 minutes ago, rpfc said:

You laugh at that, but during 2012/13. Me, Redleg, Old, CB, and a couple others would have run a far better club (I would have been the leader).

Glad we have matured past that…

Neeld was poor but Jesus Christ would have struggled with that footy department. The fish absolutely rotted at the head, but I get what you’re saying about that time frame.

I have a fair amount of faith in Goody, Choco, Richo, Yze, Chappy, Lamby, JT, Stafford and co

[roy11 2,930]

Re; Spargo - Do you play him if he can't adequately communicate?

[Lucifers Hero 37,072]

I guess there was a press conf this morning petracca-100-per-cent-playing-but-forwards-give-goodwin-a-headache

Interesting comments:

Goodwin said the midfielder would play his normal role but admitted the side’s forward woes were causing him some selection headaches as they contemplated including key forward Jacob Van Rooyen on debut or Tom McDonald after he returned from a foot injury in the VFL a fortnight ago.

Goodwin conceded that on reflection Max Gawn should have been given more time in the ruck with Luke Jackson spending more time forward.

 

[roy11 2,930]

4 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Goodwin conceded that on reflection Max Gawn should have been given more time in the ruck with Luke Jackson spending more time forward.

GOOD! The only issue is this week Brisbane have no Big O so hopefully he isn't tempted to do it again

[Mr Steve 3,820]

28 minutes ago, roy11 said:

GOOD! The only issue is this week Brisbane have no Big O so hopefully he isn't tempted to do it again

Today is RUOK day but tomorrow is RUCK day. Gawn to cut loose. 

[Kent 2,581]

45 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

I guess there was a press conf this morning petracca-100-per-cent-playing-but-forwards-give-goodwin-a-headache

Interesting comments:

Goodwin said the midfielder would play his normal role but admitted the side’s forward woes were causing him some selection headaches as they contemplated including key forward Jacob Van Rooyen on debut or Tom McDonald after he returned from a foot injury in the VFL a fortnight ago.

Goodwin conceded that on reflection Max Gawn should have been given more time in the ruck with Luke Jackson spending more time forward.

 

Goodwin conceded that on reflection Max Gawn should have been given more time in the ruck with Luke Jackson spending more time forward.

Gee who would have thought wonder what he was thinking during the game when Jacko was being thrashed for 3 quarters

[Lucifers Hero 37,072]

3 minutes ago, Kent said:

Goodwin conceded that on reflection Max Gawn should have been given more time in the ruck with Luke Jackson spending more time forward.

Gee who would have thought wonder what he was thinking during the game when Jacko was being thrashed for 3 quarters

And why didn't the box make a change when the game was slipping away...

All for backing our system and our players but there are times when changes in game are requied.

[ben russell 764]

No T Mac at the Captain’s Run. He ain’t playing tomorrow night.

[JimmyGadson 3,455]

Goodwin conceded that on reflection Max Gawn should have been given more time in the ruck with Luke Jackson spending more time forward.

 

So to the posters who consistently have a go at those who question Goodwin's decisions, here is one example (of many) where he got it wrong. And admitted as much.

Many of his decisions should be questioned, regardless of the fact we won a flag last year.

 

[DeeSpencer 23,134]

Brown’s training and moving freely so I can’t imagine we pull the pin on him now, not for a kid. We need T Mc to remove Brown.

If we do JVR for Melksham it gives us the following advantages:

1. Extra height
2. The ability to move Brown to FF and play JVR at CHF,  takes the workload off BBB
3. Less Gawn forward
 

It comes with the following disadvantages

1. The kid might struggle to get a kick and he’s almost certainly going to struggle to play out 4 quarters of high intensity footy
2. Melksham has been excellent at dragging an interceptor out of the way, as a senior player he nails the set ups and patterns to occupy a defender 
3. The Melk has been ok defensively, likely better than a baby tall will be 
 

It’s a lot to weigh up. And I really think Melk has done a fairly reasonable job with a tricky task. He blew all his chances last week but he still had chances. And there’s 10 other things wrong with the side apart from him. 

Edited September 8, 2022 by DeeSpencer

[Demonland 64,963]

 

[DeeSpencer 23,134]

8 minutes ago, JimmyGadson said:

Goodwin conceded that on reflection Max Gawn should have been given more time in the ruck with Luke Jackson spending more time forward.

 

So to the posters who consistently have a go at those who question Goodwin's decisions, here is one example (of many) where he got it wrong. And admitted as much.

Many of his decisions should be questioned, regardless of the fact we won a flag last year.

 

Your sneaky little (of many) doing a lot of work there.

Goodwin’s probably not a super coach, but it’s hardly a super list either. 

In particular, trying to solve a scoring/key forward problem without the personnel to do so is always going to take some failed experiments.

[layzie 28,752]

51 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

And why didn't the box make a change when the game was slipping away...

All for backing our system and our players but there are times when changes in game are requied.

Little bit infuriating. 

[BradDemonSufferer 134]

AFL Finals 2022: Young WA spearhead Jacob van Rooyen remains in Melbourne mix for fairy-tale finals debut | The West Australian

[Scipio 5,868]

1 hour ago, Lucifers Hero said:

I guess there was a press conf this morning petracca-100-per-cent-playing-but-forwards-give-goodwin-a-headache

Interesting comments:

Goodwin said the midfielder would play his normal role but admitted the side’s forward woes were causing him some selection headaches as they contemplated including key forward Jacob Van Rooyen on debut or Tom McDonald after he returned from a foot injury in the VFL a fortnight ago.

Goodwin conceded that on reflection Max Gawn should have been given more time in the ruck with Luke Jackson spending more time forward.

 

By the sounds of it, one of McDonald or JVR is going to play tomorrow IMO. Goody was a little cagey, but very firm that nothing would be announced until later today about those guys.

[Monocology 1,108]

I'm sensing it's JVR time, anxious.

[Demon17 4,564]

1 hour ago, Lucifers Hero said:

And why didn't the box make a change when the game was slipping away...

All for backing our system and our players but there are times when changes in game are requied.

We asked the same thing sitting in the stands. Gawn rucks first, Jacko interchanges off the bench. Not a forward.

Tmac (unlikely) or van rooyen a must.

 

[jnrmac 18,980]

2 hours ago, roy11 said:

Re; Spargo - Do you play him if he can't adequately communicate?

Every day of the week,  They know by now his running patterns and where he will be.

 

get the ball in his hand he is a maestro

[dazzledavey36 48,772]

Just play JVR ffs

[Bates Mate 3,823]

6 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Just play JVR ffs

No pressure on the kid if he plays.

1st game as a key forward in a high pressure forward line the way we have moved the ball the majority of the year is a disaster. If we move it as we did against Brisbane he will get some opportunities, but so would Melksham and the rest of the forwards. It's a ball movement issue more than a personal one

[JimmyGadson 3,455]

40 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Your sneaky little (of many) doing a lot of work there.

Goodwin’s probably not a super coach, but it’s hardly a super list either. 

In particular, trying to solve a scoring/key forward problem without the personnel to do so is always going to take some failed experiments.

It's about ball movement.

And that's a Goodwin imprint.

And when you say it's hardly a "super list", are you referring to the forwards alone? 

We are instructed to kick to pockets on slow plays. It's been drilled so far into the players' pyches that they consistently miss hittable options elsewhere.

The shackles need to be released for the rest of this campaign and I don't mean a full team Essendon style offensive attack where we leave our defenders completely vulnerable.

But our players just need to be given the licence to hit other options/spots when going forward from slow plays. 

All teams left bar Brisbane know how to trouble our defenders going forward and know how to stifle our forwards when we go forward. 

We are not winning it from here without a couple of curveballs.

[KysaiahMessiah 725]

I don’t think it’s throwing JVR to the wolves …BBB will play, Jackson or Gawn will be “resting” forward.  JVR will be third tall against a side we should dispose of.  If 2022 is the time, it’s this game, not a prelim.

[old55 21,340]

We're trying to win the flag.  Geelong and Sydney's intercepting defenders will eat JVR for breakfast, we've gotta stick with Melksham.

[The Jackson FIX 2,293]

17 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Usually by now you'd hear whispers of potential debutant like the Brisbane one last week. Looks like it won't be the same for JVR.

Shame.

Given it is a final not out of the realm of possibility they keep their cards closer to their chest. 
 

However probably more likely the JVR mystery is mainly designed to put a rocket up BBB