Patrick Cripps FREE to play

[Macca 16,900]

We now have to look at the parameters of what can be deemed legal looking ahead (re the bump)

It's a case of have-to, we don't get a choice nor do we have a voice

The head is now not sacracanct so if a player goes in to bump or braces for contact and then subsequently makes contact to the head, there's a very good chance that that player either won't be cited but even if cited, there's a better than even money chance that the player won't be suspended (especially if using the appeals system)

It's quite clear in a lot of ways.  Appeal any decision so that you only have to answer to the appeals tribunal (who have just let Cripps walk free)

Our players can now use the bump with impunity.  The players no longer have to walk on eggshells

And right now the players have been granted a licence.  Incidental contact to the head can be argued against easily but the ball now only has to be in the vicinity for a bump to the head to not even be cited

Edited August 12, 2022 by Macca

[Fat Tony 5,216]

I think that Cripps was going for the ball when he took off but he also would have been pretty sure he was going to collide with Ah Chee when he launched. I can also make an argument that Cripps was trying to take the ball on his chest prior the time of impact.

My main gripe is that he only got off because he is a star player in Brownlow contention.

Anyway, we will still touch them up if we play anywhere near our best footy.

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,683]

10 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

So are Melbourne supporters going to boo Cripps tomorrow night? or are we a bit more civilised compared to the mob last week...

 

 

What's Cripps got to do with us? Why would we boo him?

It would be as nonsensical as Carlton supporters booing Luke Parker the week after he hurt Dylan Shiel's feelings. In other words what has a Parker-Shiel confrontation go to do with Carlton supporters, much like what Cripps has anything to do with Melbourne.

(Although I do recall Doggies supporters giving Jack Viney a mild boo the week after he was successful at the appeals in 2014.)

[dazzledavey36 54,116]

1 minute ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

What's Cripps got to do with us? Why would we boo him?

It would be as nonsensical as Carlton supporters booing Luke Parker the week after he hurt Dylan Shiel's feelings. In other words what has a Parker-Shiel confrontation go to do with Carlton supporters, much like what Cripps has anything to do with Melbourne.

(Although I do recall Doggies supporters giving Jack Viney a mild boo the week after he was successful at the appeals in 2014.)

Theatre. 

[Redleg 40,777]

20 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

So are Melbourne supporters going to boo Cripps tomorrow night? or are we a bit more civilised compared to the mob last week...

 

 

It’s not his fault he got off.

He shouldn’t be booed, he and his team should just be well beaten. 

[Red But Mostly Blue 4,547]

This outcome takes me back to Chandler, whose only real fault on that night was not being a Cripps :-(

[dazzledavey36 54,116]

2 minutes ago, Redleg said:

It’s not his fault he got off.

He shouldn’t be booed, he and his team should just be well beaten. 

Correct, it's not his fault.

Thought I think Callum Ah Chee thinks otherwise.

[Wodjathefirst 2,632]

29 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

So are Melbourne supporters going to boo Cripps tomorrow night? or are we a bit more civilised compared to the mob last week...

 

 

I’ve been told that I look like a Feral supporter so I think you can guess what I will be doing 

To boo or not to boo. I just hope heaps turn up tomorrow night - is it too much to think (hope) that at the very least, we will outnumber the opposition at our last home game- and make more noise?

I keep saying, we owe it to our boys. GO DEES 

[KysaiahMessiah 725]

23 minutes ago, Wodjathefirst said:

Just want our boys on the field to turn up and not just beat them but deestroy them.

Just want our supporters to turn up in droves and give them hell

I'll be there although my past 4 attendances were losses - Collingwood (G) , Bulldogs (Marvel) , Fremantle (G) , Sydney (G).  And prior to those an underwhelming win against Norf (Marvel)  I'm starting to get a complex...

[sue 9,096]

40 minutes ago, Dwight Schrute said:

That's a really big oversight on the part of the AFL and the skeptic in me does wonder if small technicalities like this are left open in case a big name player needs a break glass in case of emergency out like this. 

 

There's no need to wonder. Clear as day that the AFL is fundamentally corrupt. Whetver you think of the origianal decisions, the 5 hour saga last night smelt.

[Wodjathefirst 2,632]

1 minute ago, KysaiahMessiah said:

I'll be there although my past 4 attendances were losses - Collingwood (G) , Bulldogs (Marvel) , Fremantle (G) , Sydney (G).  And prior to those an underwhelming win against Norf (Marvel)  I'm starting to get a complex...

Nah, all good- fifth time lucky! It will be a smashing…… I hope

[sue 9,096]

15 minutes ago, Redleg said:

It’s not his fault he got off.

He shouldn’t be booed, he and his team should just be well beaten. 

Agreed. Except booing is the only way to express our feelings about the AFL and it's special 'rules' for stars from big clubs.  Hold up a sign instead - I'm sure the TV cameras will zoom in on you (not).

[Lord Travis 10,685]

No point booing Cripps. That’s silly, he’s done nothing unwarranted to our club or players. 

I do hope he has a stinker and we belt them though. The tears of the Blues fans missing finals would be sweet.

[I'va Worn Smith 971]

Ah Chee misses a week, under concussion protocols and Cripps has his ban overturned.  Makes sense?  Even if Carlton were playing someone else tomorrow night, I would still say this is an appalling decision and sets a terrible precedent.

As a side note, I remember we played Carlton at the 'G years ago - it might have been Cripps first year.  He received a love tap from, I think Hogan.  Carlton claimed Cripps suffered a hairline fracture of the jaw.  Hogan got a week and Cripps played the following week.

[Jaded No More 68,855]

1 hour ago, TheWiz said:

Chandler was in the wrong. Understand it was a chase down tackle with momentum, but it was careless, with high impact and high conduct. It was the right decision not to appeal.

It was a pure football action gone wrong. There was 0 intention and if his name was not Chandler but, I dunno, Dusty, he walks away free. 

And this is why we should have appealed. Because bigger names have gotten away with a lot worse, but we don't have the balls as a club to protect our players and fight for them.

I just hope that if Trac or Clarry are in this situation, we take it all the way. Somehow I suspect we won't. 

[KysaiahMessiah 725]

On a side note, Jack Martin was subbed last week, playing this week.  Carlton cheat the system, make no mistake about it.  Destroy them dees!

[Jaded No More 68,855]

14 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

No point booing Cripps. That’s silly, he’s done nothing unwarranted to our club or players. 

I do hope he has a stinker and we belt them though. The tears of the Blues fans missing finals would be sweet.

I actually really like Cripps and he is a good and fair player. The outrage from me has nothing to do with him specifically, or the fact that we play Carlton this week. 

My outrage is how the AFL continues to find new ways to show fans what a bias, corrupt, unprofessional joke of an organisation they have become, where the rich get richer and the poor can go to hell. 

[von 1,559]

The way the afl is run it would be long gone without the irrational and emotional allegiance of the fans to their clubs. They are really just taking advantage of us and walking away with their pockets lined. I’d love to not support this corrupt organisation but I’m deeply brainwashed and I will be buried with a Melbourne jumper which makes things complicated.

[KysaiahMessiah 725]

Is the AFL a multimillion dollar business, yes, do they optimise outcomes to grow their business, probably, yes. But "corruption" accusations seem to come from those directly affected in a particular instance.  Carlton fans were crying corruption when Cripps was suspended, now they're mocking those with a corruption take because he got off.  

The Cripps exoneration is bizzare, based on many examples of what we have seen this year.  But corrupt, nah.  We see what we want to see sometimes.

[dl4e 5,851]

Glad to see they have found some of Elliotts brown paper bags.

[Ted Lasso 19,191]

1 minute ago, KysaiahMessiah said:

Is the AFL a multimillion dollar business, yes, do they optimise outcomes to grow their business, probably, yes. But "corruption" accusations seem to come from those directly affected in a particular instance.  Carlton fans were crying corruption when Cripps was suspended, now they're mocking those with a corruption take because he got off.  

The Cripps exoneration is bizzare, based on many examples of what we have seen this year.  But corrupt, nah.  We see what we want to see sometimes.

I would ask the AFL why despite being a multimillion dollar business they'd leave such a silly oversight/loophole open to exploitation. 

it's either breathtaking negligence, or a break glass in case of emergency contigency for a big name player to use to avoid missing a big final/important games.

[Devil In Disguise 2,278]

Imagine if Cripps concusses one of our players Saturday night after having being just let off.

[640MD 3,346]

Cripps will play,  so what, his head is going to be so full of the tribunal action he will be pretty much useless.  IMO.

and if we cannot beat them then we cannot beat time with a stick and we can forget this year.

But if Harmes is the sub and we need fresh legs in the last quarter FFS will someone start limping.

Go Dees   see you saturday

[KysaiahMessiah 725]

1 minute ago, Dwight Schrute said:

I would ask the AFL why despite being a multimillion dollar business they'd leave such a silly oversight/loophole open to exploitation. 

it's either breathtaking negligence, or a break glass in case of emergency contigency for a big name player to use to avoid missing a big final/important games.

Not sure you can close all loopholes in a game as complex as AFL.

[Ted Lasso 19,191]

2 minutes ago, KysaiahMessiah said:

Not sure you can close all loopholes in a game as complex as AFL.

No, but you can close the obvious ones. 

I think it's a bit of a worry when a really obvious procedural error is the reason a big name player gets off on appeal. 

the skeptical part of me finds it really hard to believe that the AFL could actually do that accidentally