POSTGAME: Community Series vs Carlton

[Kick_It_To_Pickett 2,930]

1 minute ago, Lord Nev said:

Probably the most flat out incorrect thing I've ever read here.

Bizarre comment.

Tackling and putting your head over the ball instead of reaching out and trying to spin out with a little dazzle dazzle are two different things. I’ll leave it at that before I cop another Lord Nev facepalm. 

[Dr. Gonzo 22,415]

3 hours ago, rjay said:

Yep, we were chasing Merritt and Cerra for a reason...our top 2/3 are as good as it gets but the FD identified the need for a class mid.

You can have depth and look at opportunities to upgrade at the same time. Any club in the comp would take Merrett or Cerra if they were available.

[bobby1554 1,132]

2 hours ago, 1964_2 said:

Some posters on this site have short memories. Sook up and get negative after a practice game. 

Pathetic. 

You don't include a bloke who came third in the Brownlow (as an inside midfielder) as part of the depth..      strange. 

 

Oliver, Petracca, Viney, Harmes, Sparrow, Jordon, Dunstan, Jackson (yes he counts as a midfielder when playing in the middle) are far superior in every way to Bont, Macrae, Libba, Treloar, Smith, Dunkley, Hunter

And don't forget Salem, Kozzy, Brayshaw and multiple others more than capable of running through the middle if we needed "depth" 

 

That's 11 more than capable midfielders and we apparently lack depth. Please, give it a rest. 

Please post this same junk after we touch up the dogs round 1. 

 

 

 

Spot on. Which is probably why we won 20.5 games last year, and a flag.

[binman 38,147]

56 minutes ago, Dockett 32 said:

Can’t remember where l put them Dazzle😳

Check the freezer

[Lord Nev 13,511]

47 minutes ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

Tackling and putting your head over the ball instead of reaching out and trying to spin out with a little dazzle dazzle are two different things. I’ll leave it at that before I cop another Lord Nev facepalm. 

9th in the entire league for average tackles inside 50 in 2021. (2nd for us)

But sure, he doesn't tackle.

[Cheap Seats 3,300]

2 hours ago, Action Jackson said:

The wrist slashing after a practice game that we lost by 5 points, with next to no intensity shown by the players is quite extraordinary.

What makes it even more amazing is we also just won a flag for the first time in 57 years only 5 months ago.....

Old habits die hard....

[FireInTheBennelly 4,024]

For anyone wondering about the umpiring last night. This should explain it.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/03/04/punter-drops-usd30-818-50-on-afl-pre-season-match/

 

 

 

[Marty 419]

3 hours ago, FireInTheBennelly said:

For anyone wondering about the umpiring last night. This should explain it.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/03/04/punter-drops-usd30-818-50-on-afl-pre-season-match/

 

 

 

Spare change out of the ash tray.

[monoccular 16,074]

15 hours ago, Sydney_Demon said:

As far as I'm concerned anyone who refers to umpires as maggots should be removed from this site. I think you all should take a good hard look at yourselves (but realistically I guess that's unlikely to happen). As a bare minimum could the moderators of this site add it to the list of words that should automatically be censored. Frankly, I'm a lot more comfortable with seeing the odd swear word than abuse through umpire namecalling... 

Can we call them Margetts then?

[leave it to deever 15,381]

22 hours ago, sue said:

Re the umpire abuse issue  (sorry I can't let this go):

When free kicks and old-style 50m penslties are awarded, the spectator can see and make their own mind up (however prejudiced!) as to the quality of the umpire's decision. 

So for viewers not to be totally confused with the application of the new abuse interpretation, we need to hear the ump's microphone at all times.  

Of course, it will still be difficult to judge the extent of eye-rolling and head shaking that justifies a 50m penalty.

Why can't they have  a 25 m penalty as well?

No all abuse or infractions are the same.

[leave it to deever 15,381]

17 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I prefer maggot over the odd swear word. Looks like we have an old fashioned stand off friend. How about we just all become offended at everything together? 

I always thought the term maggot was a long part of the afl tradition. An inseparable part of its vernacular like Jezza you beauty.

I won't be taking a good hard look at myself and will continue to use the word because it beats jumping the fence and confronting them.

Of course there are limits but footy is the greatest stress relief for many and if calling someone a maggot when they can't even hear it, helps my mental health, then I am going for it.

I'm sure maggots are not offended if they were called oh umpire.

[leave it to deever 15,381]

18 hours ago, Demonstone said:

Fan:  Can I call the umpire as a maggot?

AFL:  No, and you'll face stiff penalties if you do.

Fan:  Am I allowed to think that the umpire is a maggot?

AFL:  You can think whatever you want.

Fan:  "Hey umpire, I think you're a maggot."

I always get nervous when I'm notified you quoted me.

I wonder what I've said wrong or what grammar or spelling mistakes I've made.

Thanks Ds, I needed a good laugh.

 

[godees 650]

22 hours ago, wizardinoz said:

Can't understand the love here for Smith. Very limited footballer who rarely gets more than a handful of disposals. Also has no pace. Rather see Hunt off the HBF using his speed like he was doing prior to his injury last season. Was pretty special seeing him & Langdon working together down the same side of the ground.

WTF.
Flat out wrong to say Smith has no pace. He is one of our fastest (behind Hunt) and his closing speed to spoil etc is one of his strengths. 
He has many weaknesses but it is ridiculous to say he doesn’t have pace.

[binman 38,147]

36 minutes ago, godees said:

WTF.
Flat out wrong to say Smith has no pace. He is one of our fastest (behind Hunt) and his closing speed to spoil etc is one of his strengths. 
He has many weaknesses but it is ridiculous to say he doesn’t have pace.

Exactly. 

And that pace is one of the reason i think he has an edge on tomo. 

[FlashInThePan 1,893]

On 3/3/2022 at 10:40 PM, Fourhands Vaginelli said:

Don’t know why everyone is getting caught up on the 50m penalties. Annoying but irrelevant and missing the big picture. 
we were terrible and completely outplayed. 
focussing on the umpires is just glossing over the poor performance. The 50m penalties were given while the blues had possession. The blues had possession because in the previous seconds and minutes they had completely out played us 

 

On 3/4/2022 at 8:56 AM, sue said:

Is anyone saying we 'lost' because of the 50m penalties?  The concern I have is that penalties which depend on how the umpire intreprets a player saying [censored] because he had a free paid against him will be yet another mess the AFL has created.

We definitely lost because of 50m penalties. That is not even a question it is rock solid fact. We conceded 8 50's and had 6 goals scored against us directly because of them, since we lost by 5 points I think everyone can do the math in their head. That doesn't mean they were wrong though and focussing on that just distracts from the lessons we can take away from the game.

There was a lot to learn from that outing, but unfortunately it was a bit skewed by the lack of intensity. Our back line was all at sea but it is hard to tell how much was their disorganisation and how much was lack of pressure on the ball carrier. We are likely going to see the occasional game with a makeshift forward or back line or midfield during the year, I was hoping they might run an experiment like this in preseason to get a look at what we need to focus on at training to reduce the impact if we get hit with COVID during the season. I think there is plenty there to look at.

In other news, Gawn needs to set a better example with the umpires. As a leader he needs to get his face and body language under control. The whole team seems to have taken his lead in having a whinge every time there is a call against us. I used to get quite a chuckle out of watching his face when he'd get a ruck infringement called against him. That is no longer the case, getting lippy or remonstrating against a free has a real possibility of losing us games this year. We also are going to need to embed the idea of getting the ball straight back. Hopefully we have time to drill that and reduce the practice in our players.

[Lord Nev 13,511]

23 minutes ago, binman said:

Exactly. 

And that pace is one of the reason i think he has an edge on tomo. 

Underselling Tomo I reckon. There were stages early last year people had started talking about the possibility he would be AA.

 

[fr_ap 2,148]

Getting a little fraught in here. We've all forgotten what losing was like!

All things told it's not a bad thing - touched up in the middle, taught some umpiring lessons, got miles in the legs, no injuries, exposed some depth, and still only had a narrow loss. I'm glad we didn't pinch it (although Carlton fan's devastation would have made my week - they celebrated this win hard).

We were never going to just Romp to a 2nd flag. We have a good shot but it's going to be a hard journey and we'll need luck as we had last year. Let's see how it folds out. We have a strong team, can expect close to a win every week - that's a great thing and it should be a fun year of going to the footy. 

[Demon17 4,565]

23 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Underselling Tomo I reckon. There were stages early last year people had started talking about the possibility he would be AA.

 

yes he is undersold, esp.in comparison with Smith. Tommo is more tructworthy than Smith re; footy nous.  Doesn't fly against team mates, better disposal.  Seems for intuitive as a player.

Must come in for Petty. Smith scares me in defence.

[Sydney_Demon 1,175]

14 hours ago, FireInTheBennelly said:

For anyone wondering about the umpiring last night. This should explain it.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/03/04/punter-drops-usd30-818-50-on-afl-pre-season-match/

 

 

 

Not sure what it explains. I think all it probably explains is that some people either have too much money to waste or too little intelligence to use it properly (or both). Gambling on a practice match I would have thought might be a little brave.

[sisso 2,388]

That is horrible betting any punter would know the value is in the underdog in a preseason game where anyone can win

[jnrmac 18,980]

23 hours ago, Clintosaurus said:

Nah I think HQ wanted to make an immediate impact with the rule change, and what better way than exampling the premiers while also giving a little boost to the pre season hype team.

They didn't umpire it that way in the North game

Typical AFL to stuff something like this up.

[jnrmac 18,980]

11 minutes ago, Demon17 said:

yes he is undersold, esp.in comparison with Smith. Tommo is more tructworthy than Smith re; footy nous.  Doesn't fly against team mates, better disposal.  Seems for intuitive as a player.

Must come in for Petty. Smith scares me in defence.

Smith is not the answer. His lack of footy nous costs us more often than not

[Sydney_Demon 1,175]

2 hours ago, leave it to deever said:

I always thought the term maggot was a long part of the afl tradition. An inseparable part of its vernacular like Jezza you beauty.

I won't be taking a good hard look at myself and will continue to use the word because it beats jumping the fence and confronting them.

Of course there are limits but footy is the greatest stress relief for many and if calling someone a maggot when they can't even hear it, helps my mental health, then I am going for it.

I'm sure maggots are not offended if they were called oh umpire.

Firstly, I apologise for starting this whole exchange. I accept disappointingly I'm probably in a minority of one on this given no-one else has come out in support and a number of you have actually pushed back (I must have touched a sore point). I already acknowledged that the fans who still use the term maggots to describe umpires are highly unlikely to take a good hard look at themselves but thanks for confirming it in your case.

I totally get the emotion involved in watching a game of footy. I got involved in a meaningless and fairly childish exchange with a Carlton supporter last year. I cooled down a little and actually apologised to him for overreacting and he apologised back (a high point for both of us that day). Playing Brisbane in Sydney last year I got involved again in a meaningless exchange with a group of Brisbane supporters who'd obviously had a few beers pre-game. I decided that I was about to lose it so changed seats at half time. before it got out of control (I was vastly outnumbered). I'm also fairly notorious for loudly expressing my view on umpiring decisions I don't agree with.

I also agree it's better to call an umpire a maggot rather than jump the fence or affect your mental health by not being able to say it. A bit sad that that's what it comes down to but if that's the way it is... I also appreciate you making just that little bit of extra effort under duress to make sure you're not too close to the action or shouting too loudly to make sure the umpires don't hear it. I'm also sure all those around you are sitting there silently thinking how witty you are and how they love the use of your colourful if dated vocabulary. Even if they find it offensive (highly unlikely I know as everyone loves a bit of verbal abuse), that's not important. It's much more important that you can feel free to fully express yourself.

[old dee 22,854]

17 hours ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

Tackling and putting your head over the ball instead of reaching out and trying to spin out with a little dazzle dazzle are two different things. I’ll leave it at that before I cop another Lord Nev facepalm. 

It’s impossible not to, just carry on and consider them a badge of honour.

Edited March 5, 2022 by old dee

[58er 5,608]

19 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

You can't win the flag at this time of year but you can lose it.

Looks to me like we have had a good preseason.

We have no long-term injuries, zero injuries to key players and we look fit (9 out of 11 last goals).

The players who will miss against the Dogs (Petty and Rivers) are replaceable.

We have been given a lesson to shut our traps and give the ball back faster.

The Blues were pretty impressive IMO. McGovern looked excellent down back. Kennedy played well. Cripps is a star again.

Viney looks like he could do with another run but it's a long year and we need to be careful not to over do him.

Lever started poorly but got better. Fritsch a similar story.

They (JVand Fritta) did not play last week Give them some slack.