The Melbourne Cup

[demon3165 1,937]

7 hours ago, old dee said:

I am being a bit sneaky as this is about the horse race. Here is the omen bet.

Verry Elleegant. Colours red and blue and ridden by James McDonald. Don't say I did not tell you. 

Glad I looked this morning great tip I don't usually bet on horses but won $220 so I'm happy well done old dee what a year.

[Neil Crompton 4,787]

1 hour ago, Jaded No More said:

The only cup I care about.

Haha It never hurts to broaden your horizons Jaded No More. After landing this years cup, and while awaiting the landing of next years cup, a little dabble on the aptly named Melbourne Cup doesn't hurt. And backing the winner and the trifecta today only reinforced that view. 

[Flower Magic 700]

I wish I had read this thread pre-race 😪. Message to self: pay more attention to Demonland!

[radar 1,851]

4 hours ago, radar said:

The Geelong colours are 126 to 1

Oldest horse in field?

Back of the field and fell into eighth. 
Go Cats 2022 😅

[Timothy Reddan-A'Blew 3,839]

4 hours ago, old dee said:

Is there anything else the red and blue can win this year? My pocket is smiling !

You'd have to be thinking about England in the T20 World Cup.

Though, except for Vince, no names that oil the omen...

[Winners at last 4,742]

When will this event be held?

[Clintosaurus 6,467]

Just needed Verry Elleegant on top and would have got both the Trifecta and First 4. D'oh!!!

[Jibroni 4,117]

Had 2nd, 3rd, and 4th but never thought Very Elleegent would win that well. 

Edited November 2, 2021 by Jibroni

[Wizard of Koz 955]

1 hour ago, Jibroni said:

Had 2nd, 3rd, and 4th but never thought Very Elleegent would win that well. 

Well i dont know a single thing about horses. Never bet, but old Dee told me to and i am 600 bucks for the better. 

 

Thanks old dee. 

[Fanatique Demon 2,408]

Doubt the owner is a Demons supporter, because name is spelled as though a Collingwood supporter was in charge of the crayon...

[old dee 22,922]

14 hours ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Good day for Pennant, backed the winner and had 2, 3, 4 & 24 in a box trifecta.

2021 has been very kind

It’s been long wait PSD you deserve it. Go easy on the Emu Draught!!!!!!!!!

[old dee 22,922]

9 hours ago, Wizard of Koz said:

Well i dont know a single thing about horses. Never bet, but old Dee told me to and i am 600 bucks for the better. 

 

Thanks old dee. 

Glad you got on board enjoy spending it. 

[Jaded No More 58,069]

13 hours ago, Neil Crompton said:

Haha It never hurts to broaden your horizons Jaded No More. After landing this years cup, and while awaiting the landing of next years cup, a little dabble on the aptly named Melbourne Cup doesn't hurt. And backing the winner and the trifecta today only reinforced that view. 

I am a horse lover. No chance I support horse racing. 

[Macca 16,173]

2 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

I am a horse lover. No chance I support horse racing. 

You'd have to wonder what would become of the horse if we didn't have horse racing

 Can't really be kept as pets can they?  Out the backyard?  I don't think so

No, the horse would quickly become a slaughter animal ... used to feed humans and dogs.  Running wild? Would they be protected?

As it stands, when considering how many millions of dogs and cats are 'put down' each year, the horse does ok. 

[mauriesy 6,810]

If there was no horse racing, no one would breed the horses.

[Macca 16,173]

10 minutes ago, mauriesy said:

If there was no horse racing, no one would breed the horses.

They would be bred for food instead ... not widespread but it would happen in certain countries

The horse would end up like the pig, goat, sheep, chickens, beef cattle etc etc

Horse lovers should be barracking for horse racing.  In reality, the horse is quite a pampered animal, all things considered

[Wrecker46 2,672]

Why can't people keep politics out of football threads?

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,443]

On 11/2/2021 at 11:17 AM, Grapeviney said:

Did someone say Melbourne Cup?

 

Even before this year, I've always thought that the VFL/AFL Premiership Cup is the best looking trophy in world sport. It's got just the right amount of gravitas along with dimensions that make it look weighty (literally) and worthy.

The horse racing Melbourne Cup, on the other hand, has tradition on its side but always looks inferior to me, probably because of its size. It almost looks like a toy.

[Lucifers Hero 37,090]

1 hour ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Even before this year, I've always thought that the VFL/AFL Premiership Cup is the best looking trophy in world sport. It's got just the right amount of gravitas along with dimensions that make it look weighty (literally) and worthy.

The horse racing Melbourne Cup, on the other hand, has tradition on its side but always looks inferior to me, probably because of its size. It almost looks like a toy.

The first time I saw The Ashes 'Trophy' I thought it was a joke.

Perhaps they can create a bigger 'trophy' worthy of that historical rivalry by encasing the little urn with The Ashes within it.  It will still be The Ashes.

Edited November 3, 2021 by Lucifers Hero

[old dee 22,922]

20 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

The first time I saw The Ashes 'Trophy' I thought it was a joke.

Perhaps they can create a bigger 'trophy' worthy of that historical rivalry by encasing the little urn with The Ashes within it.  It will still be The Ashes.

LH it must be the smallest trophy in world sport. However I would rather it than a lot of the enormous things I see awarded in some sports. E.g. the Americas cup. 

[Redleg 37,655]

8 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

I am a horse lover. No chance I support horse racing. 

Well we disagree on that. Horses are born to run and have been ridden forever. They are the best looked after animals on the planet. Of course every now and again there is an injury, just as there is often in a paddock or field, when they are not racing.

Of course though you are free not to support horse racing. 

 

[Lucifers Hero 37,090]

56 minutes ago, old dee said:

LH it must be the smallest trophy in world sport. However I would rather it than a lot of the enormous things I see awarded in some sports. E.g. the Americas cup. 

It needn't be either/or.  So many different types of trophies or 'mounts' to stylishly enclose/display the urn.

I digress.

I backed Verry Elleegant, od.  The Cup is the only time I bet as I know nothing about racing, so that I have a horse or two to barrack for.  I always choose horses whose jockey wears predominately read and blue colours.   As a result, I have a collect nearly every year.  I chuckled last night when I saw this thread.  Like you I thought the jockey name made it a 'must have' bet.

Edited November 3, 2021 by Lucifers Hero

[Macca 16,173]

1 hour ago, Lucifers Hero said:

The first time I saw The Ashes 'Trophy' I thought it was a joke.

Perhaps they can create a bigger 'trophy' worthy of that historical rivalry by encasing the little urn with The Ashes within it.  It will still be The Ashes.

That's not a bad idea but I'm assuming you (and others) know the historical story behind the Ashes

The original urn is now too fragile to be travelled from Lords so a replica is given out these days

But the original urn encased in a grandiose trophy (to act as protection as well) certainly has merit

As for the Melbourne Cup, it could be marginally bigger but like the urn, it's an iconic trophy with a rich, rich history.  I'm assuming that both trophies are the same size as when first presented (19th century)

The NRL trophy is a bit oversized and the Stanley Cup (Ice Hockey) is rather large as well!  The soccer world cup is only 36 centimetres tall (but is made up of 75% 18 carot gold and worth $160k)

[Lucifers Hero 37,090]

3 minutes ago, Macca said:

That's not a bad idea but I'm assuming you (and others) know the historical story behind the Ashes

The original urn is now too fragile to be travelled from Lords so a replica is given out these days

But the original urn encased in a grandiose trophy (to act as protection as well) certainly has merit

As for the Melbourne Cup, it could be marginally bigger but like the urn, it's an iconic trophy with a rich, rich history.  I'm assuming that both trophies are the same size as when first presented (19th century)

The NRL trophy is a bit oversized and the Stanley Cup (Ice Hockey) is rather large as well!  The soccer world cup is only 36 centimetres tall (but is made up of 75% 18 carot gold and worth $160k)

Thanks, Macca.

I was thinking of the replica that is presented to the winning side.

But I also like the idea of the original (at the other MCC) being encased for protection.  I believe it is now in their museum.

[Macca 16,173]

5 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Thanks, Macca.

I was thinking of the replica that is presented to the winning side.

But I also like the idea of the original (at the other MCC) being encased for protection.  I believe it is now in their museum.

Yes you're right but the replica leaves me a little bit cold even though I know the original can't be moved

It might be a case where the original urn is so fragile that it can't be moved at all ... but a replica within a nice looking trophy (gold?) would fit the bill

The oddest looking trophy is possibly the Baseball World Series one.  Not the sort of thing that can be tossed around!