Tasmanian AFL Team

[Bombay Airconditioning 5,876]

1 hour ago, chookrat said:

I reckon the most viable solution is for Golf Coast to relocate to Tassie and to play home games between both stadiums with an investment focus on elite training facilities for AFL, AFLW, State and Junior competition's in both the North and South. Tasmanian's love their grassroot sports and a focus on integrating facilities from elite Juniors through to the National competition would be the most sustainable path.

I like the idea but the AFL don’t like admitting they got things wrong. The Dolphins have had more success in the first 8 weeks.

[Diamond_Jim 11,745]

the sensible compromise is GCS to play 11 on GC and 11 in Hobart

Home ground advantage is not that big a thing compared to the permanent bye monstrosity that comes from a 19th team

My guess is Adelaide will get an extra team at the same time thus making the 20th team. With sensible scheduling AO can easily accommodate an extra team. Docklands and the MCG are shared by 9 teams

[daisycutter 28,507]

4 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

the sensible compromise is GCS to play 11 on GC and 11 in Hobart

Home ground advantage is not that big a thing compared to the permanent bye monstrosity that comes from a 19th team

My guess is Adelaide will get an extra team at the same time thus making the 20th team. With sensible scheduling AO can easily accommodate an extra team. Docklands and the MCG are shared by 9 teams

tassy is never going to accept anything other than a genuine tassy based team

np sharing, no relocating

a 20th team solves the bye issue but trying to start two new teams at the same time would be so disruptive requiring 90 new players and massive concessions affecting existing teams. expect them to go 1 team at a time

[Diamond_Jim 11,745]

28 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

tassy is never going to accept anything other than a genuine tassy based team

np sharing, no relocating

a 20th team solves the bye issue but trying to start two new teams at the same time would be so disruptive requiring 90 new players and massive concessions affecting existing teams. expect them to go 1 team at a time

They will not be viable with a 23k seat stadium unless they are heavily subsidised by someone. Heard a rep from the Tasmanian body say they hoped for 50k members. (Not sure how that works unless they sell away memberships and the away clubs are prepared to deal)

The clubs complained that they never saw detailed business plans for GCS and GWS. Same thing happening again on the hope that the golden media pudding will fix all.

Shanghai anyone ??

[McQueen 17,863]

Edited April 26, 2023 by McQueen

[old dee 22,850]

Another team robbing the existing teams,  numerous byes, talent pool lowered again. Harder again for us to get funding. Gee this is so exciting.

Edited April 26, 2023 by old dee

[daisycutter 28,507]

5 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

They will not be viable with a 23k seat stadium unless they are heavily subsidised by someone. Heard a rep from the Tasmanian body say they hoped for 50k members. (Not sure how that works unless they sell away memberships and the away clubs are prepared to deal)

The clubs complained that they never saw detailed business plans for GCS and GWS. Same thing happening again on the hope that the golden media pudding will fix all.

Shanghai anyone ??

from a sentimental pov i really like it and hope it's a success

from a practical and skeptical pov it looks like it could end up another giants, suns millstone for a number of reasons

[Gawndy the Great 7,336]

Forget about the roof did I read they are paying 750M for a 25K stadium? I mean that’s a bit of rip off… why wouldn’t you build something of the size of Adelaide Oval or something akin to Optus oval? It won’t cater for future generations. 

[Queanbeyan Demon 5,929]

17 minutes ago, McQueen said:

The Devils will be a real conundrum for:

• father/son
• parent/child
• half-aunt / half-uncle / half-niece / half-nephew
• double-first-cousin
• half-first-cousin

[McQueen 17,863]

Just now, Queanbeyan Demon said:

The Devils will be a real conundrum for:

• father/son
• parent/child
• half-aunt / half-uncle / half-niece / half-nephew
• double-first-cousin
• half-first-cousin

……. And I think we should leave it there. 🤣🤣

[Queanbeyan Demon 5,929]

1 minute ago, McQueen said:

……. And I think we should leave it there. 🤣🤣

Did my best to keep it tidy.

[MadAsHell 4,088]

Wouldn't be surprised if list sizes get reduced to something like 34 senior, 4 rookie and 2 Cat B rookies. Might be the AFL's way of spreading out the talent pool.

[beelzebub 22,225]

25k seating

Who are these idiots

40k min...  50k better

There'll be other uses for that stadium.... to try and pull back some $$$

Must be the same mob that designed Docklands ( and got it wrong ) 

[DubDee 20,575]

GO TASSIE! 

great news!

population of Tassie around the same as GC but much more footy mad folk down there. should be a success. 25k stadium sounds perfect

[Demon Jack 6,278]

Thrilled that we might finally see a Tasmanian team after decades of unsuccessful bids and pleads and get it up and running.

Still, I'm unsure why a shiny new stadium is needed to seal the deal, especially reading that it's only going to have a capacity of 25k. Doesn't seem worth it to me. 

Why not use a fraction of the funding for the new stadium and use it to redevelop Bellerive Oval instead? 

Edited April 26, 2023 by Demon Jack

[Jaded No More 57,818]

I’m happy for Tassie to have a team, but the competition is already spread thin for talent. GC was a massive mistake and should be relocated down to Tassie. 

[Diamond_Jim 11,745]

7 minutes ago, Demon Jack said:

Thrilled that we might finally see a Tasmanian team after decades of unsuccessful bids and pleads and get it up and running.

Still, I'm unsure why a shiny new stadium is needed to seal the deal, especially reading that it's only going to have a capacity of 25k. Doesn't seem worth it to me. 

Why not use a fraction of the funding for the new stadium and use it to redevelop Bellerive Oval instead? 

It's the roof

Keeping it to 23k will allow for lower stands and thus a cheaper roof.

There is a site that compares stadium build costs on a cost per seat basis. Optus in Perth was number 1 by a mile with Wembley a distant second

I wonder if Hobart will challenge for number 1 (builders in Perth were paid incredible money as they were competing with the mining boom. The end result was good but it wasn't twice as good as Wembley etc)

[Bystander 863]

I think the city with the next biggest Aussie population is actually London.

Plenty of ovals including the oval.

Expats have time and money.

Carlton norf replay.

[beelzebub 22,225]

8 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

It's the roof

Keeping it to 23k will allow for lower stands and thus a cheaper roof.

There is a site that compares stadium build costs on a cost per seat basis. Optus in Perth was number 1 by a mile with Wembley a distant second

I wonder if Hobart will challenge for number 1 (builders in Perth were paid incredible money as they were competing with the mining boom. The end result was good but it wasn't twice as good as Wembley etc)

Not necessarily true at all. 

The roof is the roof... Depending on orientation of tiers the ground need not have a larger footprint.  Depending upon the elev used for the playing field the stadium doesn't need to soar skywards.

23k seems a waste of time and money.

No future proofing there.

[Demonstone 19,106]

9 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

GC was a massive mistake and should be relocated down to Tassie. 

Carna Cold Coast!

[layzie 28,721]

Can we boost the talent pool over time enough to compensate? That's the question.

Otherwise extremely happy for Tassie to be inching closer. 

[The heart beats true 16,122]

The Sicily comments are quite interesting to me. Admittedly I’m not 21, and am in the demographic that knows a little too much about ‘small batch’ anything, but isn’t Tassie incredibly popular now, and rents are insane?

Do we really think player retention will be an issue? Love to hear the local perspective.

[Timothy Reddan-A'Blew 3,818]

3 hours ago, The heart beats true said:

The Sicily comments are quite interesting to me. Admittedly I’m not 21, and am in the demographic that knows a little too much about ‘small batch’ anything, but isn’t Tassie incredibly popular now, and rents are insane?

Do we really think player retention will be an issue? Love to hear the local perspective.

Not exactly what you were after, Heart, but we're just back from Tassie, and one 'local perspective' we got, that I'm not aware we hear anything about in the AFL/mainland-controlled agenda, is that the stadium site has serious Indigenous cultural significances. While current levels of 'modern' disturbance/development are (apparently) remediable, $3/4billions'-worth are not. Regardless of any range in views on that aspect from us the 'uninvested', this won't make for an easy development.

[Fat Tony 4,403]

Tassie will be a disaster. Player retention will be impossible and there isn't enough homegrown talent in the Apple Isle.

GWS and GCS players get to live in Bondi or Surfers Paradise and they have enough issues.

[The heart beats true 16,122]

14 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

Tassie will be a disaster. Player retention will be impossible and there isn't enough homegrown talent in the Apple Isle.

GWS and GCS players get to live in Bondi or Surfers Paradise and they have enough issues.

I’d pick Tasmania over Surfers Paradise or Bondi every time. Actually both of those places would be very close to the bottom of the list of anywhere in Australia to live.