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TRAINING: Friday 8th November 2019


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22 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Speaking of intent:

Gawn, the best player at the club and easily in the best 18 players in the league by a country mile makes it to day one of training for the juniors,  2 weeks before he’s required.

Meanwhile we have others talented players on paper  (one who had a pathetic end to the season) that could be stars, are still on holidays overseas. 

7 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I wasn’t privy to this information as I don’t live on social media.

Well done to both lads. Let’s see if it translates on-field 

So you'd kept up with social media enough to know they were overseas, but not enough to know what they were doing overseas?

You've copped it from a few, but FWIW I don't agree at all with your attitude towards players not being back at training early.

There are a whole host of other issues that go beyond setting examples or getting the best out of themselves. Whether it's mental health, family, other fitness issues, perception from within the club. A whole host of things you, and the rest of us, have no idea about.

There's only a couple of months a year where the players aren't obligated to be within the AFL/MFC bubble. I love that Gawn and Harmes and TMac and others have come back early, but just because it works for them doesn't mean it should work for everyone.

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6 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Speaking of Viney, was watching a few of our highlights from 2016 and he was banging through classy goals from 50, and looked fantastic. Something he hasn’t done recently. Also pulled off a 39 touch 3 Brownlow vote performance in that breakthrough win over Hawthorn.

If he can get back to that kind of form, imagine what that could do to our midfield. Hopefully his prolonged injury issues means the best isn’t behind him?

 

Yep put $1 on him for the Brownlow get on now 150 to 1

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4 hours ago, Cards13 said:

Would be great to have a sarcasm AND sanctimonious ^ font on here...

I'm still waiting for a facepalm emoji.................don't think I've forgotten Andy

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8 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Fair call, absolutely.

I just thought the below post by LH rang true to me with regards to the usual suspects leading the way in the right behaviours on the training track and on game day. Then yes, I got a little carried away with criticism of a couple of players that clearly upset other posters.

However, I’m not backing away from the fact that the likes of Salem and Petrcca haven’t lived up to expectations yet in their careers, but I suppose that’s not the point here.

 

This is the real problem, you left out the word "my". There is a difference between presenting an opinion and pontificating. We all should hope every player reaches their potential but when they don't meet our expectations the amount of criticism here can be way over the top. 

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2 hours ago, demon3165 said:

So it seems that my post replying to Salty was taken down gee he can can have a crack at someone but not the other way he keeps his post up but not the other way is this what this forum about? sad state of affairs I was not rude but I guess he posts about training is more important than free speech in a non rude way way to go demonland.

FYI, I think you’ll find (i) Saty is not a moderator and (ii) you can’t delete your own posts (unless there’s been a software update). Whilst I didn’t read your post that was removed,  the moderators have a consistent approach on removing content. There’s a pinned thread that covers this.

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41 minutes ago, DubDee said:

KDunk lookin ripped but still doesn’t excuse socks and sandals!

Dunkoles.

One of the oldest existing socks known to man - excavated from an ancient Greek colony in Egypt and clearly designed to be worn with sandals - fittingly bares a colour-scheme not dissimilar the oldest existing footballing club known to man. Embrace the heritage DubDee - socks n' sandals was basically the first ever snow-boot for blue-bloods  

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On 11/8/2019 at 6:05 PM, bing181 said:

Yes, impresses supporters. But if players are following their programs, has zero impact on anything else.

Totally disagree.

Leadership is a critical factor in our club that has been missing for a long time. And it starts with attitude. Actions speak louder than words and how they turn up, when they turn up has a big role to play.

Jack Watts was a case in point. After finishing for the first time in the top 5 at the B& F telling everyone he understood how hard you had to work and he would be working harder in future, comes back from the summer break with poor skin folds, poor attitude and misses all the JLT games as 'punishment'. When that is allowed to go unchallenged mediocrity becomes acceptable. Fortunately Goody marked Watts' papers that day. 

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7 hours ago, Skuit said:

Dunkoles.

One of the oldest existing socks known to man - excavated from an ancient Greek colony in Egypt and clearly designed to be worn with sandals - fittingly bares a colour-scheme not dissimilar the oldest existing footballing club known to man. Embrace the heritage DubDee - socks n' sandals was basically the first ever snow-boot for blue-bloods  

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who in their right mind would want thick woolen socks in egypt?

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26 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Totally disagree.

Leadership is a critical factor in our club that has been missing for a long time. And it starts with attitude. Actions speak louder than words and how they turn up, when they turn up has a big role to play.

Jack Watts was a case in point. After finishing for the first time in the top 5 at the B& F telling everyone he understood how hard you had to work and he would be working harder in future, comes back from the summer break with poor skin folds, poor attitude and misses all the JLT games as 'punishment'. When that is allowed to go unchallenged mediocrity becomes acceptable. Fortunately Goody marked Watts' papers that day. 

Your example was a case of Watts not following his program...

I have no issue with players not coming back early, provided they come back in excellent shape. It shows just as much maturity and leadership by sticking to your program and doing extras, regardless if whether that is at the club or away.

Some blokes like to come back early, and that's to be commended. But guys that dont, but are still doing the work, shouldn't be looked down on for taking their time off

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13 hours ago, Skuit said:

Dunkoles.

One of the oldest existing socks known to man - excavated from an ancient Greek colony in Egypt and clearly designed to be worn with sandals - fittingly bares a colour-scheme not dissimilar the oldest existing footballing club known to man. Embrace the heritage DubDee - socks n' sandals was basically the first ever snow-boot for blue-bloods  

Image result for ancient socks and sandals"

Did the other one get lost in the wash? 

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