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TRAINING: Friday 8th November 2019


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9 hours ago, demon3165 said:

Never thought that we one games at training if you go by training as match standard then we are in real trouble.

It has nothing to do with winning games at training, it is information for those supporters who cannot attend training to have some insight on how the team is tracking.

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10 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Yes I’ve got no doubt they can have a jog on their holidays. You make an excellent point.

The point I was making was that the senior players who made it to training this week (eg- Gawn and Harmes) are players that are getting the absolute best of themselves, creating excellent examples to their teammates and are carving out fulfilled careers thus far.

Meanwhile a couple of those top 10 draft picks that haven’t seen fit to make an early appearance for whatever reason (and I concede they have no obligation to) haven’t gone  anywhere near reaching the levels they could as footballers and are nowhere near in the best 50 players in the league.

 

If you're talking about Salem and Petracca I think you're being extremely harsh.

Both boys self funded a high rigorous training camp in the US with exposure to professional NFL clubs and world class gym facilities. They did this on the back of Josh Dunkley and Marcus Bontempelli last year doing the exact same thing and Dunkley especially being on record this year to benefiting him for his break out year.

If they are not oblige as you say to be there, but are going the extra mile in terms of training preparation and also training with world class athletes then what's the issue?

I swear some people want to find an excuse to sink the boots at any cost. Players can't win these days.

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Some one is going to wake up this morning a little sheepish with a decent hangover.... 

I know AFL players don’t make the same kind of $$ as NBA, NFL or even ice hockey players but it is well established that a lot of these players have there own out of season training groups/mentors at there own cost with the aim to come back in even better condition/having enhanced/developed a new skill and are better than the season before. Good on a couple of our guys looking to do the same.

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1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

If you're talking about Salem and Petracca I think you're being extremely harsh.

Both boys self funded a high rigorous training camp in the US with exposure to professional NFL clubs and world class gym facilities. They did this on the back of Josh Dunkley and Marcus Bontempelli last year doing the exact same thing and Dunkley especially being on record this year to benefiting him for his break out year.

If they are not oblige as you say to be there, but are going the extra mile in terms of training preparation and also training with world class athletes then what's the issue?

I swear some people want to find an excuse to sink the boots at any cost. Players can't win these days.

I wasn’t privy to this information as I don’t live on social media.

Well done to both lads. Let’s see if it translates on-field 

 

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7 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I wasn’t privy to this information as I don’t live on social media.

Well done to both lads. Let’s see if it translates on-field 

 

Maybe next time you have no idea what’s happening behind the curtains, you might consider that before criticising?

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Speaking of Viney, was watching a few of our highlights from 2016 and he was banging through classy goals from 50, and looked fantastic. Something he hasn’t done recently. Also pulled off a 39 touch 3 Brownlow vote performance in that breakthrough win over Hawthorn.

If he can get back to that kind of form, imagine what that could do to our midfield. Hopefully his prolonged injury issues means the best isn’t behind him?

 

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1 hour ago, Nasher said:

Maybe next time you have no idea what’s happening behind the curtains, you might consider that before criticising?

Fair call, absolutely.

I just thought the below post by LH rang true to me with regards to the usual suspects leading the way in the right behaviours on the training track and on game day. Then yes, I got a little carried away with criticism of a couple of players that clearly upset other posters.

However, I’m not backing away from the fact that the likes of Salem and Petrcca haven’t lived up to expectations yet in their careers, but I suppose that’s not the point here.

19 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Yep, after last year's off-season a statement needs to be made by the players.  No better way to do so than show intent by coming back early, fit and ready to go. 

 

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2 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I wasn’t privy to this information as I don’t live on social media.

Well done to both lads. Let’s see if it translates on-field 

 

Should have said nothing than, based on that.

All you've done is assumed with no idea at all

Par for course by so many who just like to see the negative in our players 

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Fair enough then.

To nice DD, I'm over Deelanders continually potting the club and players

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1 hour ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Fair call, absolutely.

I just thought the below post by LH rang true to me with regards to the usual suspects leading the way in the right behaviours on the training track and on game day. Then yes, I got a little carried away with criticism of a couple of players that clearly upset other posters.

However, I’m not backing away from the fact that the likes of Salem and Petrcca haven’t lived up to expectations yet in their careers, but I suppose that’s not the point here.

 

Both were fantastic last year. We were terrible as a club, but if we won the flag and those two had the exact same years as they did the comment would be completely different. It's easy to slap the individual players because we terrible, but those two were far from the problem

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5 minutes ago, tappysquads said:

Both were fantastic last year.

No they weren’t in my opinion.

Salem was very good until about round 15. Then whether it was injury or form, he struggled in the last 6 or so weeks.

Petracca had the best year of his career, after a slow start. Was it fantastic? No. Was it a good year? Yes.

Gawn and Oliver were the only players to have fantastic years.

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18 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Should have said nothing than, based on that.

All you've done is assumed with no idea at all

Par for course by so many who just like to see the negative in our players 

To nice DD, I'm over Deelanders continually potting the club and players

Did I not eat humble pie above and admit I was wrong?

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16 hours ago, dworship said:

How do you know they are on holidays overseas? Did they all send you their itineraries for the off season. I assume from your comments Burgess has CC you all their individual program's as well.

I would be very disappointed if any of the players came back and were not ready to go this year and to steal Chookrat's mantra "I'll believe it when I see it".

I am interested to see what "condition" Langdon and Tomlinson turn up in. Anybody seen anything of these two yet?

 

As Tomlinson played in the GF I assume he is not due back for weeks

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1 hour ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Did I not eat humble pie above and admit I was wrong?

I'll know you have eaten it when I view other threads through the season.

And my post isn't just direct towards you 

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  • Demonland changed the title to TRAINING: Friday 8th November 2019

I think it's safe to conclude that all the players who haven't come back to training early are the druggies who turned off their ASADA monitors and are now officially missing. 

I'm not too worried, though. Like all addicts, they'll come scurrying back to the club when they need money to pay for their next hit !

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