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2 hours ago, DeeZee said:

Fritta and Gawn were amazing today, but too many B graders.

Seen enough of Stretch Wagner Spargo ANB and JKH 

Jones one more year ands that’s about it.

You’re kidding. I’d love some more B Graders. We’re essentially a team of C Graders. 

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2 hours ago, DeeZee said:

That was sad.

1 goal seven on the last.

In front and not clever enough to hang on.

Coz we have NO LEADERS!

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Looking at the Higgins goal that won them the game.

Dumont managed to push Harmes aside, find a ground ball get while Spargo falls over, gets tackled by Salem who pins his free arm. Meanwhile 4 of our players immediately surround Dumont leaving space outside for Wood and then Higgins to receive the handball over the top after Dumont somehow frees his arm. Higgins evades Jones and Hibberd while Frosty is haunched over presumably with cramp and snaps on his left.

So frustrating we didn't kill that ball and then got sucked into the contest yet again.

I could review individual contests as much as I'd like and it's probably not a good idea to focus on small moments like that, but gee it's indicative of how we play without footy brains and make the little mistakes that cost big

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2 hours ago, praha said:

Barring disastrous injuries next year, Jones should end his career at Casey.

Thanks for your service. Here's your life membership. 

And Viney to either join him or be traded out! 

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40 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

I am driving in WA only heard the result and looked at stats. How did Stretch go, 21 disposals at 95% efficiency looks OK? 

Where you driving, Bro? I appreciate your comments because they are basically positive. I get so sick and tired of the negativity on this site. They are mainly 'experts' who probably have never played the game. 

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... and so ends our worst season since 2014 (pretty scary to think how close we came to our 2012-2014 record, given the last minute wins over the Hawks and Suns).

For the record, this year we beat (as the ladder currently stands) #9, #13, #15, #16 and #18.

Yikes

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Watched Goodys Presser....

Not one question from anyone re the last minute turnover by Jones......

Honestly let the supporters ask the questions! 

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2 hours ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

I decided not to watch I say, for the first time in my life, and only just watched the last quarter. Jones’ centering kick out of the back half was fundamentally horrendous and he should have strips torn off him by the coach. He initially signalled that he was heading to the boundary side and all our players moved that way, and then he pulls the kick back to the middle. He has done that sort of stuff for too long. It’s criminal. All we needed was to force a boundary throw in. He has been offered 3 years at the GC and wouldn’t be surprised if he walks. Apparently is disgruntled at the Dees. If he leaves, that’s a sad way to finish up

3 years, no wonder they,re on the bottom

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19 minutes ago, Demonsone said:

Watched Goodys Presser....

Not one question from anyone re the last minute turnover by Jones......

Honestly let the supporters ask the questions! 

Would hanging out an individual to dry like that make you feel better? Sad indictment of your personality. 

Jones lost us the game with that kick. We all know that. 

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9 minutes ago, Smokey said:

Would hanging out an individual to dry like that make you feel better? Sad indictment of your personality. 

Jones lost us the game with that kick. We all know that. 

Was not wanting jones to be hung...More around the fact on our lack of leadership & players not moving to the boundary line & having leaders getting players to move to the boundary .. this wouldn’t happen at successful clubs .. FYI my personality has lived through watching this Train wreck of a club since the 70s & never seen a flag! Yet I’m a 20yr + member & a sucker for punishment 

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55 minutes ago, dieter said:

Where you driving, Bro? I appreciate your comments because they are basically positive. I get so sick and tired of the negativity on this site. They are mainly 'experts' who probably have never played the game. 

It is not a fan club site.

 

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4 minutes ago, Sorry kids said:

It is not a fan club site.

 

Yes it is, afraid to tell you, full of armchair experts, all expecting MFC to perform to their demands. 

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3 minutes ago, dieter said:

Yes it is, afraid to tell you, full of armchair experts, all expecting MFC to perform to their demands. 

Do you object to supporter comments at the game too?

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19 minutes ago, Demonsone said:

Was not wanting jones to be hung...More around the fact on our lack of leadership & players not moving to the boundary line & having leaders getting players to move to the boundary .. this wouldn’t happen at successful clubs .. FYI my personality has lived through watching this Train wreck of a club since the 70s & never seen a flag! Yet I’m a 20yr + member & a sucker for punishment 

You're certainly not wrong, and I suspect Jones wont be a captain next year. A prospect I am delighted about to be honest.

We're all seeing the same things and venting frustrations in different ways I guess. 

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1 hour ago, titan_uranus said:

The pre-game and gameday (before the game started) threads are full of people saying we’d lose by 10+ goals. 

Yet I can’t see a single post in here where someone admits to being surprised by the result. 

I haven’t seen the game so I would actually have liked to read a post or two touching on what we did to match/best them for long parts of the game. 

Did we seek to play the more controlled game we’ve tried playing in the second half of the year?

Team played with more freedom, bit like the caretaker coach who just tells the players to take the game on and have a crack, without being consumed by defensive structures as a premium.

Happens in a lot of end of season games when caution is thrown to the wind.

Max Gawn gave Goldstein an absolute bath, dominant player on the ground, 3 Chas votes

Fritsch really good game and starting to haveca bit of Brad Green about him, good leading patterns going to make it difficult for defenders by playing in front

Frosty did a job on Brown, whose 2 goals came from a downfield free and a mark on the lead from a turnover when Salem, Harmes and Brayshaw didn't get back quickly enough to fill the hole in front of Brown 

Viney tagged Cunnington winning the battle and reducing his influence- this is where Viney needs to be used

Nibbler, JKH and Stretch weren't to bad but Nibblers skills let him down and should have nailed a goal on the run to level the game but these 3 are VFL/Depth and you don't want to many of them 

Jones for the most part was ok forward but a player ofchis experience should be kicking down the line and not trying to hit someone up through the corridor with under 2 minutes to go with the lead, basic stuff down the line and start again with a  throw in or ball up at worst

Lever and Frost intercepted well but Levers turnovers were very costly 

Trac very good early but still a burst player, makes very good decisions 

Salem poor 1% player and something has happened with his kicking last month or so, not sure whether he's carrying a niggle or not, along with Brayshaw, Harmes and Clarrie needs to work harder to run with/find his opponent or fill holes when we turn the ball over 

Hore has had a good first year but skills need a lot of work, but good depth to have if our defenders are all fit

Overall better performance than some predicted with some decent chains of ball movement and handballs with depth to break congestion but poor delivery inside 50 was still there.

Turnovers/general decision making, accountability for your opponent(eg 2 way running), 1%ers and groundball improvement inside 50 the weaknesses to be worked on and the focus, which along with a decent pre season and improved confidence should see improvement next season 

 

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Today was probably the best we’ve played for a while. Really dominated the clearances and contested footy at times. Just lacked the polish. And that’s what cost us in the end. 

Maxy was huge and should be the next captain of this club. 

Fritsch will be a perma forward. 

Trac played some good footy in the middle. Hopefully spends more time there next year. 

The end of the game summed our season up. I was not looking forward to watching the game but as I mentioned probably the best we’ve played for a while. 

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4 hours ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

I decided not to watch I say, for the first time in my life, and only just watched the last quarter. Jones’ centering kick out of the back half was fundamentally horrendous and he should have strips torn off him by the coach. He initially signalled that he was heading to the boundary side and all our players moved that way, and then he pulls the kick back to the middle. He has done that sort of stuff for too long. It’s criminal. All we needed was to force a boundary throw in. He has been offered 3 years at the GC and wouldn’t be surprised if he walks. Apparently is disgruntled at the Dees. If he leaves, that’s a sad way to finish up

Harsh to pull him up on one moment. If you watched the whole game he set up a lot of play. Kicked a good goal, 2 assists, 7 score involvements. Solid game 

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1 hour ago, chookrat said:

Glad thats out of the way. The positives I took from the game:

1. No injuries. 

2. Showed patches of good ball use, particularly in the third. 

3. Fritch, Hunty and Melky playing forward together along with Jones at HF. 

4. Petracca in the midfield and midfield balance better in general. 

5. Maxy kicking for goal. 

Looking forward to the players coming back in terrific shape, trading in/out a couple of players, pick two and the footy department changes. 

Hunty & Melky.....Positives??

Hunt 12 disposals & 58% efficiency & Melksham 13 disposals 46% efficiency.....& 2 tackles between them

Wow!

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1 hour ago, dieter said:

Yes it is, afraid to tell you, full of armchair experts, all expecting MFC to perform to their demands. 

Surely you're kidding.
After finally playing finals and getting to a prelim last year you think 17th this year is a satisfactory outcome?

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4 hours ago, DeeZee said:

Fritta and Gawn were amazing today, but too many B graders.

Seen enough of Stretch Wagner Spargo ANB and JKH 

Jones one more year ands that’s about it.

If Clarkson was our coach,  Jones would be packing the reef oil and surf wax on his way to Surfers Paradise. 

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16 minutes ago, Laughing Goat said:

Hunty & Melky.....Positives??

Hunt 12 disposals & 58% efficiency & Melksham 13 disposals 46% efficiency.....& 2 tackles between them

Wow!

The positive is that they are getting to play together to start to get some continuity, [censored]. 

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Salem and Petracca need to play predominantly midfield next year. 

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6 minutes ago, chookrat said:

The positive is that they are getting to play together to start to get some continuity, [censored]. 

really.....that makes sense especially being the last round & if that's one of your positives then we got a lot more issues than we are aware of.

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14 minutes ago, Hell Bent said:

If Clarkson was our coach,  Jones would be packing the reef oil and surf wax on his way to Surfers Paradise. 

On this note the recent discussion about the culture at hawthorn says a lot. Should Roughead get a farewell game? Well he did but the Hawks mantra is that you never get gifted a game. It goes back to the days of Dermie when interviewed about Roughy also said when you look back at your Hawthorn career you know you earned every game. No freebies, no sentiment and that is why Hodge retired, Lewis and Mitchell were moved on and Roughy has spent most of the season in the 2's

I hope Jones accepts the offer of 1 year, surrenders the captaincy and is prepared to play at Casey and develop the next gen because sadly he will not be in the next team to play in a GF 

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