Changes vs Richmond

[What 18,810]

Not sure why everyone wants ANB back in. 

[Bombay Airconditioning 5,875]

6 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

Not sure why everyone wants ANB back in. 

Who’s left, I’d drop both Jones and Lewis but it won’t happen. ANB is the best of what’s left in terms of experience until AVB/Hannan are good to go.

[picket fence 15,128]

Well I jumped into the TARDIS and assembled a bit of a motley crew from 1975 

Bob Skilton was Coach  and we missed out on finals by a Whisker'

Happy to have these Hombres ready for Wednesday Night!

B  Laurie  FOWLER  Ray BIFFEN  Wayne DELMENICO

HB Peter KEAYS  Gary HARDEMAN  Tony  SULLIVAN

C  Stan ALVES( c)    Greg WELLS  Robert  FLOWER  ( ALL STAR LINEUP) 

HF Ross BREWER  Graeme OSBORNE  Marty LYONS 

F  John SPARKS  Steven SMITH  Crackers  KEENAN 

R  Carl DITTERICH Garry GUY  Billy BARHAM 

INTER Gary BAKER , Paul HURST,  Graeme MOLLOY , Frank GIAMPAOLO.

ID BACK THIS TEAM TO WIN ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT 

We have Pace , Skill, Defensive Skills, Footy smarts Grunt, dominant Rucks, Goal kickers and probably the most classy lethal and pacy centre line EVER 

IN FACT THIS TEAM WOULD GIVE OUR CURRENT TEAM A HIDING!

Edited April 21, 2019 by picket fence

[Superunknown 3,311]

A few changes isn’t going to fix what appears (from the outside ) to be a deep-rooted inward-facing cultural malaise. Systemic. 

 

Things might look bad at Carlton but perhaps not. Essendon, depths of drug addled deespair, but, perhaps not. Have never had the feeling a Dees rebuild was for real until Roos, but then.....

 

 

[Pirlo 519]

5 hours ago, Deehumanizing said:

We don't have a spine. Not one key position specialist wins their position except in the center.

This season maybe, but its pretty reductive to claim that Lever, May and T.McDonald aren't historically very good players.

[DeeSpencer 23,124]

44 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Who’s left, I’d drop both Jones and Lewis but it won’t happen. ANB is the best of what’s left in terms of experience until AVB/Hannan are good to go.

Watching his game against the Under 18 kids I'd say he's currently behind Stretch, Lockhart, Garlett, Tim Smith and probably Sparrow (who didn't play against the kids), maybe even Chandler.

Add in changes with taller players - Keilty, Oscar - and there's 7 or more in line to come in ahead of him. 

Things are bad - we almost have to bring Oscar back in, we'll have to stick with Jones, the forward line is a mess. But not so bad that we need ANB back.

[dimmy 1,114]

I think Richmond's biggest danger is overconfidence, because no MFC side could play as dumb football two weeks in a row.

[Mental Demons 136]

23 minutes ago, Pirlo said:

This season maybe, but its pretty reductive to claim that Lever, May and T.McDonald aren't historically very good players.

They are all marking intercept players, like all the defenders, Hibberd, Frost, Hore Kielty, Petty, even Jetta except for Omak who is not quick enough to intercept and can't make a contest. None of them are lockdown defenders and are playing out of position when they try to be. Some adapt better than others.

 

Edited April 21, 2019 by Deehumanizing

[Redleg 37,566]

16 minutes ago, dimmy said:

I think Richmond's biggest danger is overconfidence, because no MFC side could play as dumb football two weeks in a row.

Wanna bet?

[picket fence 15,128]

1 hour ago, dimmy said:

I think Richmond's biggest danger is overconfidence, because no MFC side could play as dumb football two weeks in a row.

You are kidding arent you?? We can and will be totally flogged. Mark Neeld says HI!

[What 18,810]

15 minutes ago, picket fence said:

You are kidding arent you?? We can and will be totally flogged. Mark Neeld says HI!

 

Maybe we should give Neeldy another go as senior coach.   It would be the greatest redemption arc in sporting history.

He needs a minimum 4 year contract though, he didnt get enough time to show what he could do last go around.

Edited April 21, 2019 by Petraccattack

[picket fence 15,128]

1 minute ago, Petraccattack said:

 

Maybe we should give Neeldy another go as senior coach.   It would be the greatest redemption arc in sporting history.

He needs a minimum 4 year contract though, he didnt get enough time to show what he could do last go around.

Um, not sure who is more sarcastic me or you!?

[jnrmac 18,953]

We are stuck with ths lot. There isn't much at Casey. 

They need to dig themselves out of it. I say Goodwin has to swallow his game plan pride and make big changes to that.

Control the ball. Be less manic. Defend further back. Always have a sweeper defender. Always have a crumber at the foot of Pruess. Create more space in our fwd line. 

And the key? Make our lazy mids run both ways.

[Deemanding 15]

Does Christian Petracca have a left foot? Continually getting caught out turning to the right, when clear opportunities are available on his left. Beggars belief a No 2 draft pick is so weak on their left side. I like to see his stats of left sided kicks and handballs, compared to his right. Has the potential to be a star but needs to use his left side whether by foot or hand  when it is the first and best option.

 

 

[nosoupforme 3,085]

Changes will happen but how many? Maybe 3 to  due to a compulsory one in Preuss who had his shoulder injected and won't be risked against Richmond.  Jetta touch and go knee ? why risk him.

We dropped a tall in Omac  and didn't replace him with another tall. and Membery  marked  everything  that came his way.

So 3 speedsters and 2 talls      have to come in I suppose. 

IN.      Garlett  Stretch    Lockhart  Keilty and  Petty  at CHB . 

OUT. Preuss and Jetta  ( injured ) Spargo,   Cory Wagner and  Lewis  Rested  for ever ?????  

Edited April 21, 2019 by nosoupforme

[Superunknown 3,311]

9 hours ago, dimmy said:

I think Richmond's biggest danger is overconfidence, because no MFC side could play as dumb football two weeks in a row.

Stranger things....

[D4Life 2,299]

8 hours ago, jnrmac said:

We are stuck with ths lot. There isn't much at Casey. 

They need to dig themselves out of it. I say Goodwin has to swallow his game plan pride and make big changes to that.

Control the ball. Be less manic. Defend further back. Always have a sweeper defender. Always have a crumber at the foot of Pruess. Create more space in our fwd line. 

And the key? Make our lazy mids run both ways.

Percentage is always a good indicator of where you stand compared to previous years, as sometimes win loss can be out of kilter by having a number of close wins or losses.

% 2018 - 131 vs 2019 - 72%, so we are a 10 goal per game worse team!

Last year early in the year we got caught doing the following:

- defending (or not defending) to far up the ground.

- boundary throw ins in backline not having someone cover the goal side shark & shot play.

- not having someone patrol the goal square.

- all defenders jumping for the mark or punch, while leaving opposition players to crumb & goal. Seems like we are doing this in the forward line.

- mids not running both ways (Jones is worst culprit - shocking example as captain).

- ordinary kick out approach (just watch how a well coached team like Hawthorn do it) Melbourne has been poor at this for last 10 years. This is one area totally down to coaching - you have the ball from a set play, if you can’t get this right either poor planning or execution.

- blazing away into forward line.

- too many players competing against one another for the mark in forward line.

- wingers too slow and not chasing.

- from what I’ve seen and read on Demonland, we’re repeating all the same mistakes, is it dumb players bereft of confidence (as we did get better from round 16 onwards), lots of injuries (Jetta & TMac why are they playing if not fit) or poor coaching.

Some fixes:

- prioritise the wings with Fritsch and Stretch (at least he can run, give him five weeks to either make it or not).

- Jetta & TMac out till their fit. Don’t bring in May, Lever or KK until fit.

- J Wagner out, poor decision maker. C Wagner out.

- Lockardt in as a small defender.

- Give Keilty a go as a forward until TMac fit.

- Garlett back in the crumbing role.

- ANB back at least he can run.

More speed in team.

 

 

 

[Demons11 6,404]

11 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

Not sure why everyone wants ANB back in. 

I agree he has some limitations but at least he applies pressure and tackles. 

[John Crow Batty 8,255]

19 hours ago, Stormy Dee said:

Spargo is 173cm=5ft8inches.

Lou Richards was 170cm allegedly although he looked shorter than that when I met him.

Aaron Davey is 177cm.

I worked with Lou at the Herald Sun when I was young. He would have been about 163 to 165cm. Solidly built though. More like a Caleb Daniel type for a modern comparison. In his days players in all roles were significantly shorter. John Nicholls the leading ruckman of the 1960’s was about 185cm and built like a brick outhouse. 

Edited April 21, 2019 by america de cali

[spirit of norm smith 12,899]

9 hours ago, Deemanding said:

Does Christian Petracca have a left foot? Continually getting caught out turning to the right, when clear opportunities are available on his left. Beggars belief a No 2 draft pick is so weak on their left side. I like to see his stats of left sided kicks and handballs, compared to his right. Has the potential to be a star but needs to use his left side whether by foot or hand  when it is the first and best option.

 

 

Yes. Good observation. 

[drysdale demon 4,150]

On 4/20/2019 at 7:03 PM, Sir Why You Little said:

A new Coach

Tyypical from someone who would not have a clue.

[DemonOX 8,530]

Changes need to be between the players ears. 

[Tolstoys Nudge 1,238]

10 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

 

Maybe we should give Neeldy another go as senior coach.   It would be the greatest redemption arc in sporting history.

He needs a minimum 4 year contract though, he didnt get enough time to show what he could do last go around.

Talk about your typical “Sack the Coach” OTT simpleton dramatist -  How about to take a Valium or two with a  Xanax Chaser & Nitrazapam mixed w/oxazepam combo Cocktail?

Simon Goodwin isn’t the issue - the players not running back defensively, constantly making poor rotational judgements in transition - followed by poorly executed gob [censored] decisions w/ball heading inside 50 combined with the fact that ALL our high intercept high IQ defensive talls & contested marks up fwd  are either out, or entirely out of form due to being hurt by all the above?! Joel Smith was to be our 3rd tall up fwd that could take a grab AND apply pressure, Garlett was is only now fit - which we’ve missed dearly for groundball issues & May/Lever/T Smith have all been out inj too as well as KK not getting decent run now Lewis having no continuity and just coming back in - we have ZERO continuity and all combined it equals a [censored] start - it’s really that simple but thats FOOTY!!! Our pre season showed us up in R1-2 Essendon we just came up against a team that was red hot and didn’t miss and we didn’t capitalise when on top.. LW was awful and worst loss so far but again the issues listed above can easily be factor and thems the brakes - StK go some good fortune and ran away, we didn’t connect up fwd and lost structure way too often which combined with personnel issues meant a poor loss!!!

If you can’t handle the ups and downs of a game where these things happen to teams all the time then maybe think about supporting soccer more or NBL which is great quality now, less of these types of issues by someways but even then you’ll still get issues and luck that falls against your team so I dunno.. quidditch?! 

Seriously - Yes it’s bloody horrible but I’m so damn sick of ppl always blaming same BS and taking their own insecurities out on the club.. we had some crappy luck and have major continuity issues re personnel and it happens to of made gaps in gameplan worse but it Will turn, Saints proving it now with AWFUL list but they’ve had continuity and are resetting to a simpler style that makes them competitive but ultimately will need to be overhauled to take next step, like we had to 30 months ago.. Their supporters wanted Richo’s head for YEARS & the very same are the ones all over social media banging on about their LOVE for the club etc it’s such a cliche - Faaaarrrkkkkkk!!!

 

Fingers crossed May Lever gets 10 weeks to click and they have massive pre seasons for lead a huge push into next year and in process turn form around wherein we win half our games and compete for 8th with a sneaky shot - that’s our lot this year I’m afraid but we support for the long game not the short!

 

I am telling you NOW - If we sack Goodwin (wouldn’t, ever but let’s say we did and he hadn’t re-signed) we’d be set back 24 months!!! It’s just idiocy to blame him and to compare him to NEELD?!?! 

 

Talk about apples and oranges - [censored] it’s more like apples and compost!

Maybe sit back when we’ve got some back in 6-8 weeks and see what we turn out then, I suggest it’ll be a “miracle” turnaround that the media say came from “nowhere”.. pffttt!!!

 

Edited April 21, 2019 by Nudge

[samcantstandya 918]

57 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

I agree he has some limitations but at least he applies pressure and tackles. 

ANB just runs a lot but not enough 2 help us get better

[Deemented Are Go! 3,602]

When are teams announced?