Round 20 - Non MFC Games.

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,702]

10 hours ago, Cards13 said:

Unless you’re a player who retires mid season?

A couple weeks out from finals actually, that boat's sailed on now.

[John Crow Batty 8,863]

I note Port are also screaming foul and murder that Tom Doedee got a 50 metre penalty and goaled after getting a “making him pay” whack over the head from Westhoff after he took a mark. Omac says “hi”.

[dl4e 5,851]

The games so far have been real close except the bulldogs/saints. I think today they will all be blowouts.

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

17 minutes ago, dl4e said:

The games so far have been real close except the bulldogs/saints. I think today they will all be blowouts.

That last sentence is guaranteed to cause severe onset MFCSS in our most traumatised sufferers.

[dl4e 5,851]

1 minute ago, Mazer Rackham said:

That last sentence is guaranteed to cause severe onset MFCSS in our most traumatised sufferers.

I know but my severe case of MFCSS is put on hold until next week.

[Deemania since 56 6,636]

13 hours ago, dees189227 said:

What a great day. Bummers lose and the pies lose both by tiny margins. 

Ok melbourne team no pressure but if you can handle it tomorrow we can be in 3rd spot. 

Wow AFL I don't think we need zones and 6 on 6 and all that crap. This round has been great. Footy will fix itself. 

 

I see an AFL interest brewing in the new rules to quell the 'now' problems that the reigns of Whoreform, Tacky Puts, Essendrug, The Filth, Carlscum and Swans are having relative to the 'lesser' teams in the league. As teams age and the rest of us build and strengthen, something less obvious than umpiring assistance needs to be posited to ensure continuing gate receipts and vested interests. The KPs are melting; recruits get games and do well on the other side of the coin.

It will be interesting to observe change and its effects. Status quo is at stake.

[Deemania since 56 6,636]

9 hours ago, Skuit said:

The last potential finals ladder manipulation occurrence that springs to mind was I think 2015 and involved us. The memory is very vague, but my recollection is that if Freo tanked against us in the last home and away round they could play the Eagles in WA in the first round of the finals rather than travel to Geelong.

They didn't tank, and went on to score a rare win at Kardinia after playing exceptionally well. But it was maybe Blight who suggested in the lead-up that they should tank - and that speculation alone is an incredibly bad look for the AFL and exposes the flaws in the current finals system.

I've been banging on about the potential of a higher-placing finals travel disadvantage for years as to our nation-wide competition and 'double-chances'  - and I'm horrified that it may be us who cops the exact worse scenario this year (placing behind a WA team in second with a Vic team in fifth against an interstate or weak team in 8th). 

It is all good thinking and needs to be focussed upon, as I am sure that coaches and FDs are currently doing. It's not quite 'tanking' but it is 'seeking advantage' and why not? The AFL creates a 'system' where such conspiracies can occur.

[Jumping Jack Clennett 1,794]

3 hours ago, Jibroni said:

Im not sure Port will make it either, West Coast and the Pies in the next two weeks and could drop both games.

Perhaps there will only be seven in the eight!

[Demonland 72,183]

1 hour ago, dl4e said:

I know but my severe case of MFCSS is put on hold until next week.

There is no pausing cases of MFCSS. Only final siren and a positive result can slow the effects and that only last for the train ride home and the perusal of the Post Match thread before the Changes vs thread kicks the symptoms back into gear.

[titan_uranus 25,018]

2 hours ago, america de cali said:

I note Port are also screaming foul and murder that Tom Doedee got a 50 metre penalty and goaled after getting a “making him pay” whack over the head from Westhoff after he took a mark. Omac says “hi”.

That truly was a terrible 50m penalty, though.

But yes, evens up for the one paid to Westhoff against us.

[Undeeterred 3,123]

 

13 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Great.

Never heard of a player retiring from a hot spot of the toe, let alone one as determined as Jack Viney. But what would the medicos know? They should consult us witch doctors, hey?

 

13 hours ago, sisso said:

Why so negative about his prospects?

Well, given he's played about 4 games in 18 months, why so positive?

He wouldn't be retiring from a hot spot. He'd be retiring because his PF is rooted, and they haven't been able to fix it without overloading other parts of his foot. 

This isn't just a toe issue. I'd be amazed if he was ever 100% again.

[Undeeterred 3,123]

11 hours ago, Jumping Jack Clennett said:

His father, a top amateur footballer with Uni Blacks ,is(? Was) a dead keen Demon man....so I have a soft spot for him, though I hope he has a downer next week.

I had no idea that's who his father was until I saw him on the TV last night!

[FireInTheBennelly 4,072]

Carlton will be absolutely destroyed today, they don't usually get out of bed until 3PM.

[Mr Steve 3,820]

Good to see Carlton forgetting about playing for draft picks and having a red hot crack. NOT.

[Sir Why You Little 37,035]

Hope John Elliott is enjoying the mess he created...

[sisso 2,580]

1 hour ago, Undeeterred said:

 

 

Well, given he's played about 4 games in 18 months, why so positive?

He wouldn't be retiring from a hot spot. He'd be retiring because his PF is rooted, and they haven't been able to fix it without overloading other parts of his foot. 

This isn't just a toe issue. I'd be amazed if he was ever 100% again.

Plenty of players manage issues, Riewoldt and McLeod had completely “stuffed” knees and played many many top games....let’s not write Jack off yet, pretty sad atttude to just assume the worst at the first sign of trouble

[Sir Why You Little 37,035]

2 minutes ago, sisso said:

Plenty of players manage issues, Riewoldt and McLeod had completely “stuffed” knees and played many many top games....let’s not write Jack off yet, pretty sad atttude to just assume the worst at the first sign of trouble

We are a little further down the road than “First sign of trouble”

[Ethan Tremblay 30,858]

Carlton being crap is just so satisfying.

Edited August 5, 2018 by Ethan Tremblay

[Supermercado 2,797]

16 hours ago, Demonland said:

13 will likely get us in but there are scenarios that say 14 in needed. @Supermercado has a scenario where a team misses out on 13 wins and 8th being on 14.

And a bloody realistic one at that. We would be ok in that case due to percentage but would come down to the last game.

[SFebes 4,884]

Haven’t watched, but has GWS dominated? Or look ordinary?

[sisso 2,580]

29 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

We are a little further down the road than “First sign of trouble”

....we’re never going to agree so no point arguing 

[loges 6,767]

GWS getting injuries 3 Off now.

[Sir Why You Little 37,035]

5 minutes ago, sisso said:

....we’re never going to agree so no point arguing 

Were we arguing??

it is an 18 month injury so far....

[John Crow Batty 8,863]

11 minutes ago, MSFebey said:

Haven’t watched, but has GWS dominated? Or look ordinary?

A training drill. 

[Skuit 10,031]

6 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

Can't agree with this.

Firstly, the loser of 2v3 gets the winner of 6v7, not 5v8.

Secondly, you have no idea who will finish 6/7 - could equally be Port.

Thirdly, if Collingwood fails to make the top 4 and slumps to the bottom half of the eight, it will solidify what people are thinking about them already, which is that their injuries are catching up with them.

Fourthly, if we finish 5th we could easily cop a trip to Port, West Coast or GWS in the second week of the finals, how is that a good thing?

Fifthly, it it happens we'll have beaten Sydney, West Coast in Perth and GWS in consecutive weeks, then get a rest. Why wouldn't we be able to back that up with another strong performance in the first final?

You're right. My mistake.