Lyon on Brayshaw

[Demonland 70,283]

[whatwhat say what 22,166]

It’s not that complicated...there’s depth at the position he plays (inside mid and rebounding half-back) and he’s missed so much football that he needs to find his feet and most importantly find the pill again

I still think he’s too slow and fumbly to play on the outside, and not particularly fast enough with hands to play on the inside

He’s really stuck between positions at the moment; has a lot of work to do on his game to make it at afl level

[McQueen 17,864]

Gaz is right on the money about Melksham.

[jnrmac 19,896]

Lyon says melbourne "needs to explain"... err no they dont.

And the last time you got involved in the club dipstick you helped set us back 8 years.

 

[Wiseblood 24,637]

Throwaway comment from Lyon.  He needs someone to explain why Brayshaw isn't in the side?  Why?  He can't work it out for himself?

Just because he should be best 22 doesn't mean he is currently in it.  Many would feel that Jayden Hunt is in the best 22, yet he's running around for Casey.  It happens.

[BigFez 1,440]

Slightly off topic, but what about this?

"Brayshaw’s teammate Oscar McDonald has had a tough start to the season in defence with Ben Brown kicking four goals on him last week, but Lyon backs the 22-year-old to find form."

That is utter garbage.

[rjay 24,612]

9 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Lyon says melbourne "needs to explain"... err no they dont.

And the last time you got involved in the club dipstick you helped set us back 8 years.

 

Good post 'jnrmac', I particularly like the dipstick comment.

To me Lyon is highly overrated as a so called football expert.

Comments like this only enhance that view.

Brayshaw’s teammate Oscar McDonald has had a tough start to the season in defence with Ben Brown kicking four goals on him last week, but Lyon backs the 22-year-old to find form.

To me Oscar has been going along pretty well and if his teammates didn't gift Brown some goals then his stats would look better...but all is good in the world, Lyon is backing him to find form.

[leave it to deever 17,457]

Its called depth Gaz.

I too would like to see Gus play but thankfully theres a fair bit of competition in the club these days.

[Richard Tionary 145]

7 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Lyon says melbourne "needs to explain"... err no they dont.

And the last time you got involved in the club dipstick you helped set us back 8 years.

 

I think most fans, myself at least would like to know the reason why a former number 3 pick is toiling away in the 2's. 

Seemed to have done the majority of the pre-season, played in AFLX and both JLT games so this talk about him not playing enough footy or having a limited pre-season is rubbish. He's fantastic in the contest, great tackler with a tidy kick on both sides that makes our team better. 

[whatwhat say what 22,166]

 

Just now, BigFez said:

Slightly off topic, but what about this?

"Brayshaw’s teammate Oscar McDonald has had a tough start to the season in defence with Ben Brown kicking four goals on him last week, but Lyon backs the 22-year-old to find form."

That is utter garbage.

Yes, just absurd

Behind Alex Pearce for Freo, O Mac is the form key defender in the competition 

[Dr. Gonzo 23,715]

Hypothetically - IF he sought a trade at the end of the year what would we want for him? I'd be wanting a mid-late 1st round pick but other clubs probably would be looking at a late 2nd rounders. Depends who was interested I guess.

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

I’d have had Brayshaw in the side over ANB, Melksham and Tyson for any of the rounds so far.

Cearly there’s something more than ‘form’ that we’re not privy to.

ANB and Melksham have been seriously underwhelming to date. And Tyson hasn’t been much better imo.

Yet none of them have been dropped.

Edited April 12, 2018 by stevethemanjordan

[Richard Tionary 145]

1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Hypothetically - IF he sought a trade at the end of the year what would we want for him? I'd be wanting a mid-late 1st round pick but other clubs probably would be looking at a late 2nd rounders. Depends who was interested I guess.

First rounder, probably 10-18. 

[ickey_11 145]

What is the crap about Oscar in the article? Two of Brown's goals were from frees not related to Oscar. One other goals was from a push in the back to Oscar similar to the one given by Gawn to Brown in the ruck.

And Melksham plays a different role to Brayshaw; he tags and plays defensive forward. Two roles I have not seen Brayshaw play with any success. Brayshaw would be back-up for the Oliver, Jones, Viney, Tyson, ANB and Salem role of winning the ball around stoppages.

[BigFez 1,440]

3 minutes ago, DemonAndrew said:

 

Yes, just absurd

Behind Alex Pearce for Freo, O Mac is the form key defender in the competition 

No mention of giving baths to his first two opponents, and Brown getting gifts.  Probably outmarked by Brown once from memory.

[Richard Tionary 145]

Just now, ickey_11 said:

What is the crap about Oscar in the article? Two of Brown's goals were from frees not related to Oscar. One other goals was from a push in the back to Oscar similar to the one given by Gawn to Brown in the ruck.

And Melksham plays a different role to Brayshaw; he tags and plays defensive forward. Two roles I have not seen Brayshaw play with any success. Brayshaw would be back-up for the Oliver, Jones, Viney, Tyson, ANB and Salem role of winning the ball around stoppages.

It's just a BS SEN article written about the comments made. I'd assume someone else on the show said something about Oscar, and Garry defended him. 

[McQueen 17,864]

21 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Hypothetically - IF he sought a trade at the end of the year what would we want for him? I'd be wanting a mid-late 1st round pick but other clubs probably would be looking at a late 2nd rounders. Depends who was interested I guess.

WCE will be looking for inside mids.

Part of Gaff RFA deal?

[leave it to deever 17,457]

23 minutes ago, DemonAndrew said:

 

Yes, just absurd

Behind Alex Pearce for Freo, O Mac is the form key defender in the competition 

Nothwithsatnding Brown had the umpires on his side.

[loges 6,767]

43 minutes ago, Richard Tionary said:

I think most fans, myself at least would like to know the reason why a former number 3 pick is toiling away in the 2's. 

Seemed to have done the majority of the pre-season, played in AFLX and both JLT games so this talk about him not playing enough footy or having a limited pre-season is rubbish. He's fantastic in the contest, great tackler with a tidy kick on both sides that makes our team better. 

 

It means we have good depth.

[Vagg 2,437]

43 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

Its called depth Gaz.

I too would like to see Gus play but thankfully theres a fair bit of competition in the club these days.

Yep.  maybe Gaz could tell Goody the magic formula for squeezing around 30 bods into a team of just 22...!  

[Redleg 40,211]

48 minutes ago, BigFez said:

Slightly off topic, but what about this?

"Brayshaw’s teammate Oscar McDonald has had a tough start to the season in defence with Ben Brown kicking four goals on him last week, but Lyon backs the 22-year-old to find form."

That is utter garbage.

Shows a poor knowledge of what is actually happening. The coaching staff would be laughing.

[monoccular 17,321]

47 minutes ago, ickey_11 said:

What is the crap about Oscar in the article? Two of Brown's goals were from frees not related to Oscar. One other goals was from a push in the back to Oscar similar to the one given by Gawn to Brown in the ruck.

And Melksham plays a different role to Brayshaw; he tags and plays defensive forward. Two roles I have not seen Brayshaw play with any success. Brayshaw would be back-up for the Oliver, Jones, Viney, Tyson, ANB and Salem role of winning the ball around stoppages.

Lyon must have had his head in the stats book (when it wasn’t somewhere darker and far more unpleasant) to say that Brown kicked 4 goals ON Oscar. 

Is he unable to look at a game and see what eventuates and how Brown got his goals?

At one stage he was mooted as a potential MFC coach - thank the Lord that he wasn’t, though he would have made Mark Neeld look good. 

[old dee 23,497]

2 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Shows a poor knowledge of what is actually happening. The coaching staff would be laughing.

Perhaps he ain't seen the game Mr Leg is just going on statts. As well I find Sen redundant these days IMO all the changes have made it worse. I have given up on it. Will be interesting to see the ratings. 

[Deeoldfart 7,993]

4 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Shows a poor knowledge of what is actually happening. The coaching staff would be laughing.

...... as are most of us here!

[What 18,810]

Hes hardly banged the door down.