Goodwin: Cats Must Play Menzel

[Demonland 72,197]

Goody chiming in on the Cats selection issues. Perhaps he wants to take a look at Menzel under finals conditions.

Anyone hear this interview? Did he say anything about the Dees?

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-daily-live-rolling-footy-news-from-around-australia/news-story/07f2b90a5fbd16eb31a4ca4226856dda

[Sir Why You Little 37,039]

Chris Scott should be replaced as coach. 

It won't happen, but it should. 

In 2011 Jeelong didn't need a coach, like Whorethorn in '88

Chris Scott has done nothing down the highway

[Dees 64 8]

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

Goody chiming in on the Cats selection issues. Perhaps he wants to take a look at Menzel under finals conditions.

Anyone hear this interview? Did he say anything about the Dees?

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-daily-live-rolling-footy-news-from-around-australia/news-story/07f2b90a5fbd16eb31a4ca4226856dda

Goodwin should not be making comments at this time of the year as to who should be playing. He is dreaming like he did on many game day occasions if he thinks Menzel would have made a change. He played JHK  for 3 games in a row when he averaged 3 possessions a game, great logic. Did not play B Kennedy and others once.   BTW Cats got to 2nd of the ladder because of umpire calls at CAT OVAL  (eg the Cats v Tiger  and Cats vs Freo games).  

[Sir Why You Little 37,039]

3 minutes ago, Dees 64 said:

Goodwin should not be making comments at this time of the year as to who should be playing. He is dreaming like he did on many game day occasions if he thinks Menzel would have made a change. He played JHK  for 3 games in a row when he averaged 3 possessions a game, great logic. Did not play B Kennedy and others once.   BTW Cats got to 2nd of the ladder because of umpire calls at CAT OVAL  (eg the Cats v Tiger  and Cats vs Freo games).  

On Friday night midway through the 3rd Q Jeelong were 3.8.26

they could have done with 2-3 Menzel goals....

Scott made a bad call

[beelzebub 23,376]

33 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Chris Scott should be replaced as coach. 

It won't happen, but it should. 

In 2011 Jeelong didn't need a coach, like Whorethorn in '88

Chris Scott has done nothing down the highway

Leave him there if it's broke, don't fix it !!

[Sir Why You Little 37,039]

1 minute ago, beelzebub said:

Leave him there if it's broke, don't fix it !!

Absolutely. It is only their absolute reliance on Kardinia Park that keeps them alive

[SaberFang 7,151]

33 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Chris Scott should be replaced as coach. 

It won't happen, but it should. 

In 2011 Jeelong didn't need a coach, like Whorethorn in '88

Chris Scott has done nothing down the highway

The two Scott brothers: the most overrated senior coaches in the league, by the length of the Flemington straight.

One brother has successfully driven North Melbourne into the ground with nothing to show for it, the other was gifted a premiership by Mark Thompson and has failed to capitalise since.

[Robbie57 2,020]

7 minutes ago, SaberFang said:

The two Scott brothers: the most overrated senior coaches in the league, by the length of the Flemington straight.

One brother has successfully driven North Melbourne into the ground with nothing to show for it, the other was gifted a premiership by Mark Thompson and has failed to capitalise since.

I have to agree with that opinion. I really didn't get why North signed him up again. 

[david_neitz_is_my_dad 4,083]

Because a finalist coach would listen to Goodwin

[beelzebub 23,376]

2 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Because a finalist coach would listen to Goodwin

I know... Who's Goody to be suggesting anything really. 

Still . Just like you and i he has an opinion. 

Hands up all those who've coached to a final ? Not me...not him lol

[Demons11 7,014]

1 hour ago, Dees 64 said:

Goodwin should not be making comments at this time of the year as to who should be playing. He is dreaming like he did on many game day occasions if he thinks Menzel would have made a change. He played JHK  for 3 games in a row when he averaged 3 possessions a game, great logic. Did not play B Kennedy and others once.   BTW Cats got to 2nd of the ladder because of umpire calls at CAT OVAL  (eg the Cats v Tiger  and Cats vs Freo games).  

He is making comments because he is on RSN every Monday analysing the finals. 

[jumbo returns 6,741]

Why is he not talking about the team he's employed to lead?

Ffs

[Biffen 12,943]

3 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

He is making comments because he is on RSN every Monday analysing the finals. 

he is giving his opinion.

i suppose dead air would be preferable.but i doubt they would pay him for that.

lets hope he can concentrate on his real job this time next year.

[radar 1,865]

Should be focussed on one club. 

Keep opinions on other clubs behind closed doors of match committee. 

Too much chance of seemingly innocuous comment coming back to bite. 

[layzie 33,806]

Interesting he gave that opinion but he's entitled to it nonetheless. 

I don't mind Scott as a coach, but I don't know what he needs to do to take this team further or if he's possibly done his dash.

[Melb16 493]

16 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Because a finalist coach would listen to Goodwin

So I assume that theory applies to people on here writing letters and giving feedback to our club?

[Melb16 493]

1 hour ago, SaberFang said:

The two Scott brothers: the most overrated senior coaches in the league, by the length of the Flemington straight.

One brother has successfully driven North Melbourne into the ground with nothing to show for it, the other was gifted a premiership by Mark Thompson and has failed to capitalise since.

I find that a strange opinion. You obviously rated the Roos list quite highly?

The majority of people didn't rate their list and seemingly their coach. So they had a poor list and a poor coach yet made 2 consecutive prelims.

They've also beaten us 200 times in a row by playing proper, logical football.

 

[Demons11 7,014]

7 minutes ago, radar said:

Should be focussed on one club. 

Keep opinions on other clubs behind closed doors of match committee. 

Too much chance of seemingly innocuous comment coming back to bite. 

What a load of crap.  

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,508]

2 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Chris Scott should be replaced as coach. 

It won't happen, but it should. 

In 2011 Jeelong didn't need a coach, like Whorethorn in '88

Chris Scott has done nothing down the highway

It's an interesting point.  Arguably, the two coaches in the league under the most pressure in their job are Chris Scott and Leon Cameron, who would both have astronomical winning pwrcentages.

If neither Geelong nor the Giants win the flag this year it raises big questions about these two perhaps underachieving.

[hemingway 7,627]

1 hour ago, SaberFang said:

The two Scott brothers: the most overrated senior coaches in the league, by the length of the Flemington straight.

One brother has successfully driven North Melbourne into the ground with nothing to show for it, the other was gifted a premiership by Mark Thompson and has failed to capitalise since.

In regard to the Cats, most supporters have had him and want him gone. Go to the Cats website if you want a taste of the vitriol. And it's been going on for some years. Similarly at North, same story.  An acquaintance and an ex North player gets very angry talking about Scott. Believes North will not progress with Scott and that his last few years have been a disaster from a list management and selection viewpoint. 

[loges 6,767]

37 minutes ago, radar said:

Should be focussed on one club. 

Keep opinions on other clubs behind closed doors of match committee. 

Too much chance of seemingly innocuous comment coming back to bite. 

So all those coaches who go on radio Friday/Saturday nights when their teams not playing should give those radio spots away?

[Lucifers Hero 39,815]

Re @Demonlandquestion in the opening post on whether Goodwin spoke about the Dees.

I picked up two things:  

1.  That Gus is fine and long term will play as an inside mid-fielder. 

2. When asked about Lever he played with a very straight bat and in Roos style said nothing.

47 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

He is making comments because he is on RSN every Monday analysing the finals. 

Am quoting this so people can read it again. 

As you say he is doing a job for RSN. 

His finals segments went for about 45 minutes.  If people listen to it they will see there is no reason to criticise him for commenting on finals teams and games. 

[chookrat 4,250]

2 hours ago, hemingway said:

In regard to the Cats, most supporters have had him and want him gone. Go to the Cats website if you want a taste of the vitriol. And it's been going on for some years. Similarly at North, same story.  An acquaintance and an ex North player gets very angry talking about Scott. Believes North will not progress with Scott and that his last few years have been a disaster from a list management and selection viewpoint. 

Not sure I agree with this. I thought Scott's decision to announce three of its best players would not be offered new contracts on the eve of finals was a Coaching and List Management master stroke.

[Demon trucker 1,800]

Was he wrong? as soon as I heard they dropped MENZEL I gave them no chance. We miss the finals by 1 goal and a first year coach can't talk about other teams why not?  

[Cards13 9,117]

Is it rnd 1 yet?