Casey Demons v Williamstown

[Lil_red_fire_engine 11,233]

9 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

Watts will definitely come in vs Pies. Didnt even see the Casey game but his stats tell me enough. This has been planned by the coaching staff for the 6 day break going into round 23.

Salem will return too.

 

Lets assume we win with similar input from all as last week. Who are you omitting? 

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14 hours ago, Dr.D said:

I continue to be surprised on this forum. Watts hasnt been named in the best players for 2 weeks yet he is 'a cut above the rest' and should get a call up? 

Watts' efforts in the afl for 3 weeks were unforgivable and disgusting. An absolute [censored].

He has not shown any appetite for the contest and we dont need guys like him in the team come finals. We need hard guys that put their head over the footy. 

 

I continue to be surprised by posters who think their expectations of Watt's game is what predicates him being picked for the seniors.  He would have a clear understanding of what is required of him by the coaching staff and it is quite probably different to your expectation.  If he makes the seniors next week then he will have merited it!

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I only watched the second half but thought his performance was quite solid, was cracking in and his ball use was above anyone else on the ground. Wasn't surprised he was named in the best players at all.

[leave it to deever 17,517]

15 hours ago, jane02 said:

I will never forget that goal at the QB game. I have only replayed it about 500 times. The fact I was in a box with 15 Collingwood supporters only made me love him that bit more. He will be back.

That would have been sweet. How did those Pies supporters gain entry though?

Its funny that JW always plays well against them and also the fact that they still boo him.

Hope he's back for the last game against them.

[KC from Casey 7,117]

Paul Amy's report in the Cranbourne Leader -

The Casey Demons remain unbeaten at home after seeing off Williamstown at Casey Fields

And there is no case to answer for Demon Jack Watts.

The VFL has turfed out the report from Saturday's game.

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Nice work KC. Happy to hear. Burn up the track this week Watts, would be good to see you sink the pies again.

[old55 23,701]

Justin Plapp has Casey playing with great intensity - right up to the last second of that match - it's pretty good!

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

I just saw footage of the Watts report, what a farce.

That umpire will be very embarrassed with himself.

[layzie 34,013]

I just saw it too. Really? I mean really? Complete joke

[Whispering_Jack 30,674]

The commentators were strong in their praise of Lefau who comes from Auckland NZ. I assume he can be taken as a Category B rookie?

[binman 43,813]

11 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

The commentators were strong in their praise of Lefau who comes from Auckland NZ. I assume he can be taken as a Category B rookie?

Looks a strong bugger. I think i heard the commentators say he was in the Storm under 19's side?

Good long kick too

[Wrecker45 3,378]

You don't have to be Nostradamus to know how Watts plays finals. His GPS numbers will dictate that.

Doe anyone remember the gut running goal on Queens birthday that won the game? If he is capable of running like that he will play in conjunction with Pedo in seperate roles.

[old55 23,701]

Plapp's player review - always an informative read:

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2017-08-22/vfl-player-review-round-18

Players of note for elevation:

Jack Watts: Jack had 20 possessions, including nine contested possessions, 11 marks, three clearances and kicked one goal. I thought he played a significant role on the weekend, particularly in the middle part of the game, where we needed to change some things up in the middle of the ground. He was able to play as a midfielder and give us some composure, plus some fierce ball movement, which opened up and gave us some scoring opportunities. That was a significant move in the day, which added real value in that part of the game. I was happy with his team-first attitude and engagement of VFL footy. He had a big influence on the game for us.

Corey Maynard: He had 20 disposals, five clearances, 13 tackles and kicked a goal. After being the carryover player for the AFL team last week, Corey left off where he’d been in the past month to six weeks. His form at VFL level has been outstanding. On a day where it probably suited those players, where he is a contest player, he was quite significant, in and around the contest. Corey continues to take his game to another level, which is pleasing.

While JKH: "serviceable", Bugg "Buggy’s really going to benefit out of that and we should see him get some big improvements over the coming weeks"

[Fat Tony 5,270]

10 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

Plapp's player review - always an informative read:

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2017-08-22/vfl-player-review-round-18

Players of note for elevation:

Jack Watts: Jack had 20 possessions, including nine contested possessions, 11 marks, three clearances and kicked one goal. I thought he played a significant role on the weekend, particularly in the middle part of the game, where we needed to change some things up in the middle of the ground. He was able to play as a midfielder and give us some composure, plus some fierce ball movement, which opened up and gave us some scoring opportunities. That was a significant move in the day, which added real value in that part of the game. I was happy with his team-first attitude and engagement of VFL footy. He had a big influence on the game for us.

Corey Maynard: He had 20 disposals, five clearances, 13 tackles and kicked a goal. After being the carryover player for the AFL team last week, Corey left off where he’d been in the past month to six weeks. His form at VFL level has been outstanding. On a day where it probably suited those players, where he is a contest player, he was quite significant, in and around the contest. Corey continues to take his game to another level, which is pleasing.

While JKH: "serviceable", Bugg "Buggy’s really going to benefit out of that and we should see him get some big improvements over the coming weeks"

JKH "serviceable" with nearly 20 tackles!

[Redleg 41,464]

19 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

Plapp's player review - always an informative read:

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2017-08-22/vfl-player-review-round-18

Players of note for elevation:

Jack Watts: Jack had 20 possessions, including nine contested possessions, 11 marks, three clearances and kicked one goal. I thought he played a significant role on the weekend, particularly in the middle part of the game, where we needed to change some things up in the middle of the ground. He was able to play as a midfielder and give us some composure, plus some fierce ball movement, which opened up and gave us some scoring opportunities. That was a significant move in the day, which added real value in that part of the game. I was happy with his team-first attitude and engagement of VFL footy. He had a big influence on the game for us.

Corey Maynard: He had 20 disposals, five clearances, 13 tackles and kicked a goal. After being the carryover player for the AFL team last week, Corey left off where he’d been in the past month to six weeks. His form at VFL level has been outstanding. On a day where it probably suited those players, where he is a contest player, he was quite significant, in and around the contest. Corey continues to take his game to another level, which is pleasing.

While JKH: "serviceable", Bugg "Buggy’s really going to benefit out of that and we should see him get some big improvements over the coming weeks"

Some key words for Jack," nine contested possessions" " significant role" " gave us some composure, plus some fierce ball movement" "opened up and gave us some scoring opportunities" " team first attitude" " big influence on the game ".

[binman 43,813]

5 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Some key words for Jack," nine contested possessions" " significant role" " gave us some composure, plus some fierce ball movement" "opened up and gave us some scoring opportunities" " team first attitude" " big influence on the game ".

He will play

[binman 43,813]

Just now, binman said:

He will play

In my opinion

[old55 23,701]

28 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

JKH "serviceable" with nearly 20 tackles!

There's clearly still a big step up from VFL to AFL.  

Many players have struggled to bridge the gap this year despite great form in the VFL - Trengove, Stretch, JKH, White, Wagner

Others who have managed the leap: Brayshaw, Hannan, ANB

[Fat Tony 5,270]

6 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

There's clearly still a big step up from VFL to AFL.  

Many players have struggled to bridge the gap this year despite great form in the VFL - Trengove, Stretch, JKH, White, Wagner

Others who have managed the leap: Brayshaw, Hannan, ANB

I don't disagree that the gap is huge and I am not arguing that JKH should be promoted. I just felt it was underwhelming praise. 19 tackles is a huge effort at any level.

[Vogon Poetry 2,095]

I was a regular at Sandy and Casey until a few years ago as I enjoyed watching our youth develop.  In the last few years I've not attended as many matches limiting myself to about 4 live this year and I think 2 or 3 on TV.

For those that are regular watches I'd be interested in your comments on the standard of play.  My view is the standard of footy at VFL level played by Casey, whilst effective, is awful.  I get surprised where I see a good chain of possessions, it's stop start stuff rolling maul school yard footy.  Too many players round the ball of too little skill to execute to a level that allows anything like AFL attributes to be displayed.

The standard when I watched us at Sandy and even in the earlier days with Casey was much better and enjoyable.  The game at Port was so bad and boring I left 10 minutes into the second quarter.  I just couldn't be bothered watching the rubbish being served up.

The game against top of the league Willy was a marginal at best.  Scrappy and dull. 

Am I the only one who thinks this?  And why is it?  Game plan?  The Casey ground.  The personnel? 

My major interest was always to see the new players.  It's a hard ask to get motivated to go and watch Casey IMO even with a few new faces to see.  And the Casey ground is just awful for viewing.

[Diamond_Jim 12,628]

3 hours ago, Vogon Poetry said:

I was a regular at Sandy and Casey until a few years ago as I enjoyed watching our youth develop.  In the last few years I've not attended as many matches limiting myself to about 4 live this year and I think 2 or 3 on TV.

For those that are regular watches I'd be interested in your comments on the standard of play.  My view is the standard of footy at VFL level played by Casey, whilst effective, is awful.  I get surprised where I see a good chain of possessions, it's stop start stuff rolling maul school yard footy.  Too many players round the ball of too little skill to execute to a level that allows anything like AFL attributes to be displayed.

The standard when I watched us at Sandy and even in the earlier days with Casey was much better and enjoyable.  The game at Port was so bad and boring I left 10 minutes into the second quarter.  I just couldn't be bothered watching the rubbish being served up.

The game against top of the league Willy was a marginal at best.  Scrappy and dull. 

Am I the only one who thinks this?  And why is it?  Game plan?  The Casey ground.  The personnel? 

My major interest was always to see the new players.  It's a hard ask to get motivated to go and watch Casey IMO even with a few new faces to see.  And the Casey ground is just awful for viewing.

Interesting point and from the 4 games I attended I agree in the main with your views. Certainly at the Port game Port played a much more open game.

My only reservation is that at VFL I watch from ground level as opposed to an elevated view at the MCG.

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3 hours ago, Vogon Poetry said:

I was a regular at Sandy and Casey until a few years ago as I enjoyed watching our youth develop.  In the last few years I've not attended as many matches limiting myself to about 4 live this year and I think 2 or 3 on TV.

For those that are regular watches I'd be interested in your comments on the standard of play.  My view is the standard of footy at VFL level played by Casey, whilst effective, is awful.  I get surprised where I see a good chain of possessions, it's stop start stuff rolling maul school yard footy.  Too many players round the ball of too little skill to execute to a level that allows anything like AFL attributes to be displayed.

The standard when I watched us at Sandy and even in the earlier days with Casey was much better and enjoyable.  The game at Port was so bad and boring I left 10 minutes into the second quarter.  I just couldn't be bothered watching the rubbish being served up.

The game against top of the league Willy was a marginal at best.  Scrappy and dull. 

Am I the only one who thinks this?  And why is it?  Game plan?  The Casey ground.  The personnel? 

My major interest was always to see the new players.  It's a hard ask to get motivated to go and watch Casey IMO even with a few new faces to see.  And the Casey ground is just awful for viewing.

The Sandy v Casey game I went to was a shocking rolling maul contest - you could literally count the skill executions on two hands across the whole day.  Yes it was very wind affected so this was some excuse.

MFC play "outnumber at the contest and win it" and there's no doubt Casey are playing the same style (which is good), but when you factor in less skill and less fitness at VFL level it's a recipe for ugly games.

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5 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

JKH "serviceable" with nearly 20 tackles!

"but I thought his second half, he had a big impact in the game."

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6 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

JKH "serviceable" with nearly 20 tackles!

Depends on whether he was making tackles because (a) he was consistently beaten to the ball, or (b) he was throwing himself around like a man possessed. I didn't see the game, so have no idea which is the case.