Post Match Discussion - Round 19

[Deemented Are Go! 3,643]

Pleased I couldn't follow this game at all. Was flat knacker feeding Bill Shorten and 850 of his mates. I decided to check the result in the afternoon so as not to have the anxiety of how we went distracting me during dinner service. My crew were looking at the scores too hoping for a Dees win to avoid getting a spray. I look after my team - I let loose on the wait staff - 850 meals delivered in 34 mins! 

So thanks for one thing, MFC, giving me a bit of rage to channel productively- perhaps you could try that sometime? 

And relieved I didn't have to blind-watch the recorded game until 2am for such a shitty result. 

So deflating. 

Out of interest, is Manuka Oval anything like Blundstone or whatever the [censored] it's called? Continuity with the conditions for next week? Or am I clutching at straws? 

We'll probably beat GW$ knowing us ?

[dl4e 5,687]

The only way I can describe our footy yesterday was DUMB. Skill errors and slipping over aside we played stupid footy The last quarter demonstrated this when only a goal down we thaught we had won the game with the breeze. I don't know what watts was up to at the start of the last quar.ter but he stood there like a stunned mullet instead of bombing it to the goal square. In yesterdays conditions we should have gone long into the forward line. The loss of Hogan was bigger than what some people think.

Unless we can pull off a win against GWS next week we wasted a year in Hobart.

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,622]

Just wanted to echo other people's opinions about Blundstone arena. It's an absolute dump of a ground by AFL standards. A glorified bush league venue.

The lines about 30 metres to take a slash. Don't even think about getting a beer or something to eat until about the 20 minute mark of each quarter. The wind spoils what could've been a good game of footy. And credit to North, they use the conditions to their advantage and. It's a genuine home ground advantage as evidenced by a 10 goal win over this year's likely premiers.

I'm going to be livid if the AFL schedule us down there a 3rd year in a row. I hope we're not requesting to play down there.

As for the performance, I thought ANB, Watts, Petracca and Hannan in particular were a disgrace.

[DemonOX 8,562]

42 minutes ago, DemonLad5 said:

If we miss the 8 this will be the biggest waste of a season in a long time 

Can not disagree more demonlad. 

This season we have developed players, had injuries and suspensions to key players and we r still fighting for a finals spot  

The neeld era and pre neeld was a waste of 10 yrs. 

If we miss the finals it will be disapointing but not a waste of a yr imo. 

[Wiseblood 24,636]

Blundstone sucks, we didn't handle the conditions well and we allowed North to dictate the play.  We'll continue to learn from it.  

For us at the moment we need our bottom six helping out, and we didn't get that at all yesterday.  Hannan didn't register a kick, while guys like Trengove, Melksham (he did snag 2 goals) and ANB didn't impact the contest often enough to give us that edge.

We need to win 3 of our last 4 from here, and we can most certainly do that.

[Wiseblood 24,636]

And because I love a positive:

I think it's become very clear, if it hasn't already, that we probably have the best young player under 21 on our list in Clayton Oliver.  Look at these for stats from a kid of 20 years of age:

33 touches, 12 tackles, 26 contested possessions, 12 clearances and 1 goal.  The crazy thing is that he is doing this most weeks.

This kid let's his football do the talking, and while he is still learning to mature and will have his moments, his year has been unbelievable for a kid of his age and I'm so stoked we have him at our club.  I feel as though he is already one of, if not the, best players to walk through our doors in a very long time.

[chook fowler 18,559]

14 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

Can not disagree more demonlad. 

This season we have developed players, had injuries and suspensions to key players and we r still fighting for a finals spot  

The neeld era and pre neeld was a waste of 10 yrs. 

If we miss the finals it will be disapointing but not a waste of a yr imo. 

This is not the time to be rational.

[SFebes 4,748]

Disgusting effort but we were one Oliver run down from potentially winning. I'm seriously angry about this loss. Our forward 50 entries have been abysmal for about a month now, coach should have fixed up weeks ago. Also not shifting T McDonald back when they were booting with the gale is beyond comprehension really.

[Ted Lasso 17,312]

14 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

And because I love a positive:

I think it's become very clear, if it hasn't already, that we probably have the best young player under 21 on our list in Clayton Oliver.  Look at these for stats from a kid of 20 years of age:

33 touches, 12 tackles, 26 contested possessions, 12 clearances and 1 goal.  The crazy thing is that he is doing this most weeks.

This kid let's his football do the talking, and while he is still learning to mature and will have his moments, his year has been unbelievable for a kid of his age and I'm so stoked we have him at our club.  I feel as though he is already one of, if not the, best players to walk through our doors in a very long time.

And despite those incredible stats seems to go unnoticed and probably won't be in the votes despite dominating the game.

[What 18,810]

13 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

And because I love a positive:

I think it's become very clear, if it hasn't already, that we probably have the best young player under 21 on our list in Clayton Oliver.  Look at these for stats from a kid of 20 years of age:

33 touches, 12 tackles, 26 contested possessions, 12 clearances and 1 goal.  The crazy thing is that he is doing this most weeks.

 

Man, that is an absurd performance.  Of course it will go completely under the radar, but if it was a 19-20 year old from Essendon doing it they'd be talked up by the media as the next great of the game.

[Deemented Are Go! 3,643]

What happened to Hogan exactly? How long is he going to miss? 

[Diamond_Jim 12,097]

Just now, Deemented Are Go! said:

What happened to Hogan exactly? How long is he going to miss? 

4-6 what else

Seriously they are doing scans and Goodwin said he might be back this year

[What 18,810]

Just now, Deemented Are Go! said:

What happened to Hogan exactly? How long is he going to miss? 

Broken collarbone, having surgery today.  Goody says it doesn't mean season over though.  

Though if you do a quick search on broken collarbone surgery recovery times, it seems to be 6-8 weeks. Seems hes he might be done for 2017.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

2 hours ago, Nasher said:

Thought from the ground that Lewis was one of the better players.

The worst part about Lewis is his kicking has regressed badly at Melbourne.

He also has no composure and panics under the slightest pressure.

[Deemented Are Go! 3,643]

Just now, Diamond_Jim said:

4-6 what else

Seriously they are doing scans and Goodwin said he might be back this year

Cheers. 

Poor bastard can't take a trick this year. 

At least we know what to do when he's not there, maybe a morbid blessing in disguise structure wise?

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Not sticking a player on Ben Brown who was always going to hurt us is a big black mark against Goodwin.

Half way through the first quarter you could see the zone wasn't working and in those conditions a bit of back to basics football was required.

Goodwin's style of play on at all costs (even if an opponent is next to you) is fine at Etihad but in slightly difficult conditions it totally breaks down.

[BAMF 3,852]

12 minutes ago, SFebey said:

Disgusting effort but we were one Oliver run down from potentially winning. I'm seriously angry about this loss. Our forward 50 entries have been abysmal for about a month now, coach should have fixed up weeks ago. Also not shifting T McDonald back when they were booting with the gale is beyond comprehension really.

TMac should have just stayed at the scoring end of the ground the entire game.

Like Nasher, I was at the ground and thought Lewis played well. There was a demon supporter behind me who shouted out '[censored] off back to Hawthorn Lewis!' so maybe I missed the bad things

[binman 39,476]

1 hour ago, Hell Bent said:

No,  we lost the toss. 

Really, i thought they said on the telecast we won it and elected to kick into the wind

[drdrake 3,059]

When you hit the front with a 4 goal wind behind you in the last quarter and lose that it attitude, we expected to win and the wind will do it for us.  Then we get behind with 4 mins to go panic sets in, it turned real ugly, it wax already bad but that last 4 minutes of football was a complete disgrace 

Is Greg Stafford still ruck coach

Max Gawn is a real concern, his tap work is off or mids not on same page and around the ground is having no impact 

[Little Goffy 12,983]

1 hour ago, The heart beats true said:

Has anyone seen Picket and Donald Trump in the same room at the same time?

Their use of exclamation points at the end of one word 'sentences' is eerily reminiscent.

Surely what you mean is -

"Their use of exclamation points, at the end of one word 'sentences', is eerily reminiscent!!! ANNOYING!"

[Uncle Fester 2,843]

Good - Clarry

Bad - Hogan getting hurt

Fugly - undoing good work by doing something dumb. 1 good thing... 2 good things... 3 good things... oh here you go Nth. Have the ball. All fricken day.

[CBDees 3,162]

16 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

Broken collarbone, having surgery today.  Goody says it doesn't mean season over though.  

Though if you do a quick search on broken collarbone surgery recovery times, it seems to be 6-8 weeks. Seems hes he might be done for 2017.

I spoke to a doctor this morning and she surprised me by stating that it could be as little as two weeks. Certain sounds like finals and maybe as early as Collingwood or even the Lions. ?

Edited July 30, 2017 by CBDees

[jnrmac 19,485]

16 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

Broken collarbone, having surgery today.  Goody says it doesn't mean season over though.  

Though if you do a quick search on broken collarbone surgery recovery times, it seems to be 6-8 weeks. Seems hes he might be done for 2017.

Gerrard Healy said he could play with a plate in in possibly 3 weeks. COuld then have it taken out over summer.

 

[Lucifers Hero 37,524]

5 minutes ago, CBDees said:

I spoke to a doctor this morning and they surprised me by stating that it could be as little as two weeks. Certain sounds like finals and maybe as early as Collingwood or even the Lions. ?

Ling Jong came back after 2 weeks with the same injury to be BOG and win the Grand Final for the Footscary VFL team (against Casey unfortunately).

Did a google search: Greg Hoy was the surgeon.  I wonder who Jesse has?

So it isn't unrealistic to have Jesse back in round 22 (3 weeks recovery) or round 23 (4 weeks recovery).

Edited July 30, 2017 by Lucifer's Hero

[What 18,810]

12 minutes ago, CBDees said:

I spoke to a doctor this morning and she surprised me by stating that it could be as little as two weeks. Certain sounds like finals and maybe as early as Collingwood or even the Lions. ?

 

11 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Gerrard Healy said he could play with a plate in in possibly 3 weeks. COuld then have it taken out over summer.

 

Well thats nice to hear.   Never trust Dr Google