Clayton Oliver incident

[Akum 2,660]

1 hour ago, Wiseblood said:

This will be forgotten in 24 hours.  Oliver has already moved on by the look of it, and so should we.

Yeah, you're right. Nobody thinks he's a stager any more, because "just moving on" worked so well the last time.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

1 minute ago, Akum said:

Yeah, you're right. Nobody thinks he's a stager any more, because "just moving on" worked so well the last time.

For a poster whose opinion I respect, you've gone off the deep end with this one, Akum.  The 'staging' incident and this one are totally different and will be treated, and remembered, as such.

Go and look at the vision again as well.  Your idea of 'shoved' is pretty warped.

[Akum 2,660]

1 hour ago, jackaub said:

who is going to remember Acquaro from Vero after his 15 minutes

Just another Carlton To$$er

after his second Brownlow all will remember Oliver move on take deep breaths and maintain the complete distain for all things CarltonWhat a bunch of soft C0%&

Yeah, cos nobody remembers Helen D'Amico

[Return to Glory 8,453]

4 minutes ago, Biffen said:

He"s a Madonna fan as well as being an attention seeking ugly [censored].

Thats why he's so totally hateable.

The club can move on but I need some time to abuse this poor excuse for a man.

Very funny

[Demon Disciple 12,452]

5 minutes ago, Akum said:

Yeah, cos nobody remembers Helen D'Amico

Somehow i don't think Doull will ever forget her!

[Nasher 33,617]

8 minutes ago, Akum said:

Yeah, cos nobody remembers Helen D'Amico

I had to Google who she was, if that helps.

[Nasher 33,617]

The ironic thing about the diving thing is that Vince did one of the lamest, most blatant stages I've ever seen, in a period of the game where there was actually something to gain by doing it, and I literally have not seen or heard it mentioned anywhere. I suppose nobody actually punched him in the face, so there's no actual crime we can blame him for.

That's why I can understand the view of others who would like to see the club publicly back Oliver at some stage. His poor reputation is being allowed to snowball out of control, over stupid things, It's getting ridiculous.

[Moonshadow 17,678]

50 minutes ago, Deestroy All said:

Could only be a Carlton supporter. Sad really. You'd think someone close to him would counsel just a little bit of class

[dieter 3,325]

I find this totally absurd. An idiot fan is allowed to shout abuse into the face of a kid, then he gets sensitive about some 'feedback' and the problem is the reaction of the kid who was manhandled and abused.

It's like the absurdity of the Schofield situation. Schofield delivers an elbow to Oliver's jaw and the issue metamorphosis's into the question did Oliver 'dive'.

Edited July 10, 2017 by dieter

[Willmoy1947 4,198]

3 hours ago, ProperDee said:

How do you profile a bloke like that?

• Lives with mum
• Enjoys Froot Loops with warm milk for breakfast
• Waxes his whole body
• Ambidextrous.....which is starting to cause vision problems
• Wears a nightie to bed
• 10 more girlfriends and he'll reach double figures
• Has one of those single beds shaped like a racing car
• Never played football in his life
• Highlight of the week is sipping cocoa with mum and watching Coronation Street
• Maintains a collection of ancient Playboy magazines under his bed which now cannot be opened......

Lives in a commune at an MCG seating section and contributes thousands of dollars to the MFC

[Akum 2,660]

50 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Shoved?  Laughable.  Surely you don't believe he was shoved...?  I've seen the vision numerous times and at no stage have I thought he was shoved.

And how do we know it hasn't been tolerated?  How do we know that the wheels aren't turning behind closed doors and there will be further outcomes from this?  Right now, we don't.  The best thing for the club to do is to get on the front foot and get passed it as quickly as we can.

The club can kick, scream, yell and do whatever... but it means little and won't change a thing.  And our players are never hung out to dry - just watch the Goodwin presser from the weekend to see the standards and culture he wants to drive and you'll have zero doubt that we're in good hands.

OK, so now it matters how hard the contact was? Was "incidental"??

And how do we know it hasn't been tolerated? First, because there's no evidence for it. Because there's no reason for the AFL to do anything about it now that any possible PR fallout has been "managed". And because nothing ever changes for the AFL unless they're held to account for it in public. And because "getting past it" or "just moving on" has done absolutely nothing for us this season.

And when did I say that the club can "kick, scream, yell" and so on? How about a simple but firm statement about players being contacted by spectators during the game is not acceptable? Nobody actually said that yet. In fact, Goody said they'd look at it before commenting, but their silence is eloquent.

Yeah, Goody's presser was great, and today the club (not the coach) had a great opportunity to back up Goody's words with acts, but we just don't have the 'nads for it.

[buck_nekkid 6,068]

We all know who he is, and what a facewad of come he is.  Punishment enough.  He looks like a filthy kiddy fiddler with a Madonna fixation.  She wrote 'like a virgin for you, sweetheart?

and Clarrie - learn to ignore these idiots.  In your 2018 or 2019 Brownlow acceptance speech, acknowledge 'some loser at a Carlton game' for firing up 35 games of 3 votes in a row.

note he didn't apologise to mummy's boy.  He apologised for letting the team down by taking gloss off the win.  Perfect!

[McQueen 17,867]

25 minutes ago, Nasher said:

The ironic thing about the diving thing is that Vince did one of the lamest, most blatant stages I've ever seen, in a period of the game where there was actually something to gain by doing it, and I literally have not seen or heard it mentioned anywhere. I suppose nobody actually punched him in the face, so there's no actual crime we can blame him for.

That's why I can understand the view of others who would like to see the club publicly back Oliver at some stage. His poor reputation is being allowed to snowball out of control, over stupid things, It's getting ridiculous.

He'll let his football do the talking and his reputation will be just fine.

Alternatively, the club or any other individual speaks for him at this 'grave injustice' and the target on his back becomes bigger again.

I think it's been nipped in the bud in a timely manner.

[Willmoy1947 4,198]

This situation will pop up again at the next Carlton game at the G. Wonder if those seats were not available at all for the rest of Carlton's "G" Games? What a pity......... 

[beelzebub 23,390]

51 minutes ago, Akum said:

Yeah, cos nobody remembers Helen D'Amico

Bet Bruce does 

[titan_uranus 25,174]

I'm pretty angry about this.

The Carlton coward has a crack at Oliver and then didn't like copping a response. What did he say, "touch me again and I'll kill you" - what, we all worry that Oliver would jump the fence and attack him? It's an admittedly aggressive response to a fl*g being aggressive towards him but it's wasn't racist, it wasn't sexist, it wasn't homophobic, and it was in response to being unnecessarily pushed/touched/shoved.

I see no reason for Oliver to have to apologise which implies the coward deserved an apology of any kind.

[monoccular 17,642]

 

1 hour ago, FireInTheBelly said:

Wasn't it Carlton supporters a few years back smashing on the back of the oppositions bench desperate to attack an opposition player? This mob are ferals and have now been given a free pass, or that's how they'll see it. When next we meet them I can almost guarantee it will be ugly, and the blues banner will almost certainly incite them.

This is poor, poor form from the AFL.

Typical gutless pretty boy Gil stuff. 

28 minutes ago, buck_nekkid said:

We all know who he is, and what a facewad of come he is.  Punishment enough.  He looks like a filthy kiddy fiddler with a Madonna fixation.  She wrote 'like a virgin for you, sweetheart?

and Clarrie - learn to ignore these idiots.  In your 2018 or 2019 Brownlow acceptance speech, acknowledge 'some loser at a Carlton game' for firing up 35 games of 3 votes in a row.

note he didn't apologise to mummy's boy.  He apologised for letting the team down by taking gloss off the win.  Perfect!

Great post and magnificent vitriol in your first paragraph. "Facewad of come"???

And para 3 puts a different thought in my mind, which I hadn't appreciated until you pointed it out.    He didn't actually say sorry to the scumbag at all. 

Still, pathetic that the AFL has done nothing about Mr F of C. 

PS spell check - come or cum?

[Sir Why You Little 37,302]

It's a pity Ronnie and Regie Kray are not still with us. 

They could very easily have paid a little visit to "Robert's" Shrine of Madonna for a little redecorating at 3am

[McQueen 17,867]

Chris Scott on AFL 360:

"Clayton and Melbourne have come out the bigger man in this situation."

Both he and Richo as well as Whately and the other host all agreed the supporter was completely out of line.

[radar 1,865]

Heap of those funny meme things with Robert on Big footy. 

I can't do the link thing - but it'll make you chuckle, riding in a tank with Putin etc. 

magpie and bomber fans in amongst it - universal contempt for Carlscum supporter. 

[dl4e 5,851]

An apology to that folicly challenged carlton gobsmacker  is out of the question. I just cant believe this has happened. FFS.

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

4 hours ago, Akum said:

Come on Wiseblood, this is garbage. A number of times this year, the club has absolutely squibbed it in standing up for its players. This is by far the worst example,unless we're going to pay the moron compensation and take it out of Clarrie's match payments. For the second time in a few weeks, they've completely hung Clarrie out to dry without a peep. It's out and out pathetic.

Player pushed towards the fence gets shoved by a spectator. And that's OK? Every other club in the AFL - in fact, every sporting club in Australia - wouldn't tolerate their player being manhandled by a spectator in the course of the game.

I'm sorry but this is absolutely correct. Clarrys momentum took him to the fence as par the course of the game. The moron stood up and clearly pushed him back....it doesn't matter how hard or soft it was. Its unacceptable that a fan can have any physical contact with a player.

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

2 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

I'm pretty angry about this.

The Carlton coward has a crack at Oliver and then didn't like copping a response. What did he say, "touch me again and I'll kill you" - what, we all worry that Oliver would jump the fence and attack him? It's an admittedly aggressive response to a fl*g being aggressive towards him but it's wasn't racist, it wasn't sexist, it wasn't homophobic, and it was in response to being unnecessarily pushed/touched/shoved.

I see no reason for Oliver to have to apologise which implies the coward deserved an apology of any kind.

Spot on.

[chookrat 4,268]

Oliver didn't apologise to the Catlton supporter. He apologised to his team mates for detracting from the win.

[SaberFang 7,151]

1 minute ago, chookrat said:

Oliver didn't apologise to the Catlton supporter. He apologised to his team mates for detracting from the win.

No coincidence, that one.

As for the Fairfax article with this [censored] accepting Clayton's apology? Only worth a read if you need any further evidence that journalism in this country has sunk beneath the gutter.